Are Toonzone forums invaded by SJW?

Dumas · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 338

I've been on Toonzone forums since around 10 years. When we come to some political discussions. They don't seem to accept a lot sites like ZeroHedge, Breitbart, SHTFplan, thinking there's conspiracy theories websites like Infowars while they have more readers then Huffington Post, NY Times, the mainstream media.

I got a message from "Zombie Chevrolet-Oldsmobile" (I changed the username like they do in changing names in the classic tv series Dragnet when they mention in that series it's to protect the innocents).

I quote the message I got in a warning.

[quote]This is a poke to inform you that we've been getting complaints from other members about the links you keep posting to conspiracy websites in the US election thread. For starters, it discourages conversation when you keep replying to every other post with a link (and you've been poked about this behavior before). Secondly, regardless of whose side they support, are these links to good journalistic sources with credible reporting? Where are they getting their information? Would you be able to use this as a source in a scholarly writing? Think about that when you post a news piece.

If we have to remind you of this kind of behavior again, it will be a full warning. [/quote]

I begin to wonder if Toonzone forums had been invaded by SJW(social justice warriors) or by using this not so correct term "liberals Archie Bunker"? By the term "liberal Archie Bunker", I refer to that episode of the classic tv sitcom "All in the family" when the open-minded Michael (Mike) Stivic (who's married to Edith's and Archie Bunker's daughter Gloria) titled "The games the Bunkers play" where open-minded liberal Mike act like Archie Bunker in this clip at 10:03 https://youtu.be/BB9PF7gFD78?t=10m3s

Btw, maybe I could invent a new term, how about SJABW for "Social Justice Archie Bunker Warriors" but it would be a miracle if it's catch and became viral like "Trigglypuff".

Firiel · Has No Life Joined: 13 Feb 2012 Posts: 620

...Well... Readership numbers aren't always the same thing as perceived respectability. If you wanted to source-cite a conservative source which might be considered more news-like, perhaps you could go through FOX?

Also, it seems like the complaint isn't just about people being scared of the sources, but also about link-replying in general? Like, I know I find it a little intimidating if I'm trying to talk about stuff and every time I want to reply to someone, I have to go read whatever article or list of articles they've linked to, instead of just having an exchange of opinions and occasionally looking at a source document if they've made a claim that particularly needs backing up... sometimes people don't have time to go through a lot of articles, they just want to reply to a discussion and move on with their day.

Dumas · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 338

Some said Fox news had softened over the years.

I guess we hadn't completely realised, the mainsteam media had been probably caught pants down by people who refer to the "alt-media" (alternate media) with besides the websites already mentionned, some Youtube vloggers then I know like Doctor of Common Sense, Styxhexenhammer666, Tommy Sotomayor, Steven Crowder who posted a[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiTpW93Qey8]vlog about media corruption[/url], etc... and some might not like this competition and want to shut it down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiTpW93Qey8

I guess I might check if the grass is really greener elsewhere like [url=http://www.city-data.com/forum/]City-Data forums[/url].

Edit: Some newspapers like the New York Times who had taken a recent biais had reported a 95.7 percent fall in quarterly profit. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3897406/New-York-Times-reports-95-7-percent-fall-quarterly-profit.html There's one poster on that article who nicknamed it the "New York Slimes" (due to the Ghostbusters slime I presume? ) Wink

Firiel · Has No Life Joined: 13 Feb 2012 Posts: 620

Yeah, exploring your options and looking into other places to hang out online is always an option if you don't like what a forum you've liked has become lately.

I've never left a forum on purpose - had a few buckle underneath me, though. But I get way attached to communities once I've been with them for awhile.

Dumas · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 338

Sorry for reviving this thread, I guess I fallen in the Twilight zone.

I mentionned earlier Styxhexenhammer666 in an earlier post and one TZ user nicknamed MGawd http://www.toonzone.net/forums/members/mdawg.182311/ MGawd mentionned a link on RationalWiki then that Youtube user was a Holocaust denial because I mentionned that guy and I liked some of his other videos. If I'm guilty of association, so I guess Noam Chomsky is guilty of association as well due to the Faurrison affair. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faurisson_affair

Unfortunately there's no Google/Bing cache of the discussion since the mention was erased and I couldn't archived to Archive.is
He mentionned what he think I was really. However the Youtube link then Rationalwiki mentionned had been deleted by that guy or by Youtube staff.

The weird thing about RationalWiki is when I read the talk page of the RationalWiki entry on Encyclopedia Dramatica. I linked it to an archived version on Archive.is http://archive.is/7YdTl And from what I read, RationalWiki had some hidden skeletons about the Armenian genocide and one more skeletons about pedophiles http://archive.is/muxbC but one guy could argue then Wikipedia might also have some similar skeletons so I don't go further about this.

And RationalWiki had falled in the "Dark Side of the Force" by being corrupted and gangrened by SJWS. https://medium.com/@infiltrator7n/i-see-my-old-stomping-grounds-rationalwiki-is-getting-mocked-by-the-kiwis-9f33dd56a5a2
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/rationalwiki.14720/
And looks on their stance about Gamergate didn't help things either. https://archive.is/6Sj0F

Dumas · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 338

[quote="Dumas"]Sorry for reviving this thread, I guess I fallen in the Twilight zone.

I mentionned earlier Styxhexenhammer666 in an earlier post and one TZ user nicknamed MGawd http://www.toonzone.net/forums/members/mdawg.182311/ MGawd mentionned a link on RationalWiki then that Youtube user was a Holocaust denial because I mentionned that guy and I liked some of his other videos.....

...And RationalWiki had falled in the "Dark Side of the Force" by being corrupted and gangrened by SJWS. https://medium.com/@infiltrator7n/i-see-my-old-stomping-grounds-rationalwiki-is-getting-mocked-by-the-kiwis-9f33dd56a5a2
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/rationalwiki.14720/
And looks on their stance about Gamergate didn't help things either. https://archive.is/6Sj0F[/quote]

Apologies for the bump, I posted a message then I written to MDawg in late September.
[quote]
Sorry for my late post but I guess it might be better late than never. If you think then what I'm really are because of Styxwhatever. I posted the following to wondefly a couple of weeks ago and I thought it might be worth then I share with you.

There was some old posts on TZ forums wayback in time who mentionned Noam Chomsky. http://archive.is/AF6h2 (and some of these old posts are probably archived on Archive.is and the Wayback Machine) What's the link with that Youtube vlogger Styxwhatever? Almost 40 years ago, Noam Chomsky got his credibility hurt when he signed a petition in the Faurisson affair about a guy named Robert Faurisson who was a Holocaust denier. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faurisson_affair And a guy named Werner Cohn had once written a book titled "Partners in Hate: Noam Chomsky & the Holocaust deniers" who's available on Amazon.

I wonder if we could still mention Noam Chomsky on TZ forums?

I spotted a discussion on Reddit about Styxwhatever and that video and Rationalwiki, I wanted to check it but it was already removed,( I don't know if that video in question had been uploaded elsewhere )
who's archived on Archive.is http://archive.is/gmaIs
and if you have some free time, I saw these threads on City-Data forums who might be worth to check.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/great-debates/2409890-holocaust.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...-anti-defamation-league-criticizes-jay-z.html

Btw, should we put Valerie Plame in the same category as me? She posted a tweet, now deleted but archived on Archive.is and on the Wayback Machine, it goes as far then the Valerie Plame article had been chosen article of the day for Sept 23-24 on Encyclopedia Dramatica. http://archive.is/vOQnq
https://archive.is/OFaGQ

Noam Chomsky and now Valerie Plame, I wonder if I might be now in good company?

And let's not pull all our eggs in the Rationalwiki basket. Rationalwiki's stance about Gamergate who might had probably hurt more their reputation than helped it. Here a archived copy of their entry from 2014 posted on the Wayback Machine.
https://web.archive.org/web/20141011112608/https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gamergate and let's have fun to compare it with the current version. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gamergate[/quote]

Dumas · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 338

Sorry for that new bump but I spotted this post made by a guy nicknamed TheMusicdewd who's been both archived before it got deleted on the Wayback Machine and Archive.is at the bottom of the page for some chuckles.
http://archive.is/jYYLe
https://web.archive.org/web/20171004110124/http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/fox-ceo-confirms-the-simpsons-will-not-be-ending-in-the-foreseeable-future.5613431/page-2

Edit: The original message had been edited by the moderators, here the more recent version to compare.
http://archive.is/r4HwF

Dumas · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 338

MDawg had reacted like a "trigglypuff", going full SJW. I fell sorry for this guy.
http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/news-and-politics-2017-general-political-discussion-thread.5578551/page-41#post-85746721

In case he modify or delete his message, it's archived on the Wayback Machine.
https://web.archive.org/web/20171022115443/http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/news-and-politics-2017-general-political-discussion-thread.5578551/page-41

Dumas · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 338

I decided to do a journal entry on Deviantart about a TZ user,, I didn't named on my Devianart journal but it's MDwag again. https://stephdumas.deviantart.com/journal/Funny-quote-714031415

I spotted another post by a user nicknamed Wonder Woman then I thought it was worth to share, archived on the Wayback Machine.
https://web.archive.org/web/20171109020711/http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/news-and-politics-2017-general-political-discussion-thread.5578551/page-46
[quote]
I don't want to look into this too much but it seems like 2016 was the last gasp for racist, regressive, short-sighted backwater America. Hopefully we can say goodbye to the 1950s in 2018 (a very apt quote I found on Twitter).[/quote]

I guess she should had read this good rant from a blogger named Aaron Clarey known as Captain Capitalism that will get reactions from trigglypuffs.
http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.ca/2016/11/a-world-without-white-people.html
also mirrored on the Wayback Machine and Archive.is https://web.archive.org/web/20171104042439/http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.de/2016/11/a-world-without-white-people.html
http://archive.is/5IGD8

Edit:(Nov. 15), a bit more on the table. https://web.archive.org/web/20171115205944/http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/news-and-politics-2017-general-political-discussion-thread.5578551/page-48

Dumas · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 338

A little bump, looks like they closed the topic on Toonzone but with the Al Franken debacle, here a meme as a gift to one SJW. Be warned then it's that photo of Al Franken who did the headlines and is now a internet meme.
https://imgflip.com/i/1zlqnj

Edit: There's a Deviantart journal who collected some Al Franken memes.
https://lucas-white.deviantart.com/journal/Al-Franken-Creeping-while-you-re-Sleeping-715914947
In case if it's deleted, it's now mirrored on the Wayback machine and Archive.is
https://web.archive.org/web/20171127213709/https://lucas-white.deviantart.com/journal/Al-Franken-Creeping-while-you-re-Sleeping-715914947
http://archive.is/5kxce

Dumas · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 338

Sorry for the bump but I spotted a interesting comment posted on the following fanart on Deviantart. https://phracker.deviantart.com/art/Gamergate-Misogyny-725357350
https://comments.deviantart.com/1/725357350/4535612779

You can check some archived version of Rationwiki entry about that on Archive.is and the Wayback Machine.
http://archive.is/ZCdAr
http://archive.is/qUM32
https://web.archive.org/web/20171012074211/https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pedophilia

And I couldn't resist to a Willy Wonka meme about it. Embarassed

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TeeJay87 · Very bored Joined: 24 Jun 2014 Posts: 193

As you can see, those leftists can't be reasoned - talking to them is like talking to brick wall.

Dumas · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 338

[quote="TeeJay87"]As you can see, those leftists can't be reasoned - talking to them is like talking to brick wall.[/quote]

Worse than a brick wall! It's like talking to a pile of rocks. Laughing

TeeJay87 · Very bored Joined: 24 Jun 2014 Posts: 193

[quote="Dumas"][quote="TeeJay87"]As you can see, those leftists can't be reasoned - talking to them is like talking to brick wall.[/quote]

Worse than a brick wall! It's like talking to a pile of rocks. Laughing

[/quote]

You got it right - both rock piles and crazy leftists are likely to cause severe headache. Wink

Dumas · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 338

[quote="TeeJay87"][quote="Dumas"][quote="TeeJay87"]As you can see, those leftists can't be reasoned - talking to them is like talking to brick wall.[/quote]

Worse than a brick wall! It's like talking to a pile of rocks. Laughing

[/quote]

You got it right - both rock piles and crazy leftists are likely to cause severe headache. Wink

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And with the fake feminist Linda Sarsour, someone did these memes I saw on City-Data forums. [url]http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/2893853-college-invites-sharia-law-advocate-linda-2.html[/url]

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That post mentionned by Toonzone user Wonder Woman then I mentionned earlier gived inspiration for some memes. [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20171109020711/http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/news-and-politics-2017-general-political-discussion-thread.5578551/page-46[/url]

The sceptical kid version [url]https://imgflip.com/i/25v8jd[/url]

The Willy Wonka one [url]https://imgflip.com/i/25v8sd[/url]
[url]https://imgflip.com/i/25v90g[/url]

Dumas · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 338

Looks like Toonzone isn't the only place invaded by SJWs. On a slightly off-topic sidenote, Youtube have the same problem as well about videos from vlogger Tommy Sotomayor posted on Youtube on his channels TNN Raw, TNN Raw 2 and TNN Raw 3 are mirrored
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkDheGT65Gw
https://robinhoodof.info/channel/UCI8oEDl8TKTA3Pcd89M1h1g
https://robinhoodof.info/channel/UCEIzaJt6khuWFTGhJFMl4ug
https://robinhoodof.info/channel/UCFmfScVZ4PrkUgfog3foSeA

Am I the only one who have a guilty pleasure to see his videos? Embarassed

Dumas · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 338

I did this meme as a PM for another user on Toonzone a while ago. I thought it might be worth to share it.

Edit: I forgot to mention then the guy in question was ex-senator and ex-Saturday Night Live cast member Al Franken.
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TeeJay87 · Very bored Joined: 24 Jun 2014 Posts: 193

Those SJWs treat the cyberspace as their own territory - first they claimed tumblr and Twitter, then DeviantART and YouTube, and their hunger for conquest seems insatiable.

You may also heard about an art site called "Storm-Artists.net" - it was formed by a Dutch SJW calling himself "avo" to rivalry dA. Avo found other crazy SJW henchmen as his admins:
- Patrick "Patty" Heddles from Australia
- Dawn "Subversive-Imaginati" McKenna
and couple more straight-people-haters to handle this site.

Used to have an account there until October 2014, when McKenna and her low-level SJW thugs bullied me out there, officially "because they couldn't stand pictures of anime-like catgirls with males (!) promoting cis-het values they oppose on Storm-Artists.net". When I tried handling appeal to avo, he replied me random words in botched English. But I don't regret being bullied out Storm-Artists, I had there even worse feedback than here.

Storm-Arists.net ceased its existence in January 2016 http://www.storm-artists.net/ - avo and Heddles seem hiding from the cyberspace, but McKenna keeps posting red tape on her Twitter https://twitter.com/Subimaginati/media. Just be warned - reading her bile might cause headache. Wink

Dumas · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 338

I dust-off this one by mentionning Youtube removed all of Alex Jones videos and Facebook did the same for his account. Bad mistake, because it created a big Streisand effect and now Alex Jones videos now on Bitchute are as popular than before.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/T_K3h9RAcDg/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/e2bI41xpOQc/

When I check these fanarts of how Heather Heyer was portrayed in some fanarts
https://www.deviantart.com/sythbane/art/Magnified-699805574
https://www.deviantart.com/stevenely/art/What-Really-Happened-in-Charottesville-709587646

The last fanart reminds me fer reasons then I don't know why, of the Trayvon Martin vs George Zimmerman meme. I know James Alex Fields is not an angel but....
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?479992-Detroit-man-91-beaten-doused-with-gasoline-and-set-on-fire&s=4100a7b7fcd0267bf71a5e8783ca739a&p=5865736#post5865736
http://archive.is/A3WCS

...I wonder how the fanartists who did these fanarts of Heather Heyer will react if they see these renderings of Heather Heyer on Encyclopedia Dramatica?
http://archive.is/mVVOC
http://archive.is/wEnsj

Dumas · Still very bored Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 338

Apoligies for reviving this thread but I spotted a interesting thread about Vertue signaling on AnimeSuperhero formely known as Toonzone, I don't know why they changed their name. Embarassed

https://animesuperhero.com/forums/threads/virtue-signaling-in-modern-cartoons.5703691/

Part of the thread is now archived.
https://web.archive.org/web/20181113182750/https://animesuperhero.com/forums/threads/virtue-signaling-in-modern-cartoons.5703691/
http://archive.is/w8Tvs

I quoted one part http://archive.is/w8Tvs#selection-3557.0-3561.389
[quote]Including LGBT characters/themes shouldn't be considered a political statement. People within the LGBT community are just people, not objects for anyone within the political spectrum to use for attention. The reason why more shows are using LGBT characters/themes now is because creators have more freedom than they did even just ten years ago.

I don't see how this prevents a show from being mindless fun. Just because other characters who aren't in a typical heterosexual orientation are in a show doesn't mean it can't be fun. It provides some much needed representation for a lot of people and it can potentially widen the appeal of a show by offering said representation. I don't see how this is a bad thing or even problematic.[/quote]

Then I wonder if they aren't afraid then in a more long-term that might become a cliche like the car chase in the late 1970s as Cine-Massacre once mentionned. https://youtu.be/sz9-W_KW6n0?t=253

And then I saw that post on Kiwifarms. http://archive.is/oV5dx
http://archive.is/oV5dx#selection-2673.0-2677.160
[quote]
I think it was around the time of the second Amazing Spiderman movie when Garfield (Spiderman's actor) and some SJW Marvel *censored* on twitter wouldn't shut up about wanting Spiderman to be gay. And Stan was basically up against the wall in trying his damnedest to defend his creation, and after so much backlash it was expected. "Please folks, just leave me and my creation alone. I'll give you anything you want. Even a latin, non-binary, transrace, lgbtwiips4bbqwhatchamacallit superhero. Just leave me and my spidey-son alone." And yeah, harassing and bullying an old man (even after he's dead) because he doesn't want to bend over to your stupid diversity wokeness is so fucking classy.[/quote]

Edit: Back to including LGBT in cartoons, I wonder if down the line in 10-20 years, someone might complained about how they are portrayed like that guy who complained about how Apu was portrayed in The Simpsons?