I was able to strip many files from git ...

removed docs/reference/*/README because all Makefile.am contain now valid copyright and license notice.

Sorry, I don't accept your answer. If you see a file without copyright or license notice report it, please.

Note, I am thankful for savannah hosting my project. Further, I identify myself and my project for the values savannah represents.

I can't imagine a better hosting for `gsequencer` which is completely free software. I know it because it is my code.

It is somehow ironic, your arguing why it shall not be hosted by savannah, anymore.

Do you remember why I was filling this submission?

Well, I would love to contribute it to GNU.

> I would agree if the issue had been fixed.  It hasn't.

Again, what file is affected?

Hi Ineiev,

I just opened a bug of gettext to complain about missing copyright and license notice.

https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?57973

Do you have a work-around for old gettext versions?

I just checked the images directory to have metadata: ok

• docs/images/*.png

Thought, the new images were not listed in the README: fixed

• docs/images/README

Further, I have updated README because compile and acsite.m4 has got a copyright notice, now.

About acsite.m4 it had some generated code without proper license notice, which I have removed because I don't use help2man.

comment #153:

>
> I just reworked copyright notices of the images:
>
> * http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/gsequencer.share/icons?h=3.0.x
> * http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/gsequencer.share/images?h=3.0.x
> * http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/docs/images?h=3.0.x

Why don't you use the texts recommended by the license itself
(in the section "How to Apply These Terms to Your New Programs")?

Oh, well, we've discussed this two years ago; sorry.

> Further I have removed misleading information from README files.

Did you check all files in your tarball?

I think we should set a deadline: you've already have been working on this issue for a long time; if it isn't fixed within a reasonable period, it must mean that you really can't follow Savannah hosting requirements.

(I use fcc1b3d6706021de850b0c733c898b1b602ada76 which seems to be current git HEAD for as the reference.)

So, some files from po/ still have no appropriate notices.

The status of files like ags/object/ags_marshal.c isn't clear: they declare Copyright (C) 2005-2018 Joël Krähemann, while the README says something uncertain like "copyright provided by http://www.gnome.org".

While at it, many READMEs have no recommended form of copyright notice; I would suggest updating them.

There are also other files with the same issue (no valid copyright and license notices, or notices that are misleading).

I see, thank you!

> I have contacted the author of the book, he told me that I won't have a need for his permission.

I'm not sure I understand... whose permission shall you need, then?

Hi Ineiev,

Just asked on freenode zrythm channel, they would embrace the split.

So we proceed as originally intended.

---

by Joël

FYI:

        new file:   docs/reference/libags-audio/libags_audio-overrides.txt.in
        renamed:    docs/reference/libags-audio/libags_audio-sections.txt -> docs/reference/libags-audio/libags_audio-sections.txt.in
        renamed:    docs/reference/libags-audio/libags_audio.interfaces -> docs/reference/libags-audio/libags_audio.interfaces.in
        renamed:    docs/reference/libags-audio/libags_audio.types -> docs/reference/libags-audio/libags_audio.types.in
        new file:   docs/reference/libags-gui/libags_gui-overrides.txt.in
        renamed:    docs/reference/libags-gui/libags_gui-sections.txt -> docs/reference/libags-gui/libags_gui-sections.txt.in
        renamed:    docs/reference/libags-gui/libags_gui.interfaces -> docs/reference/libags-gui/libags_gui.interfaces.in
        deleted:    docs/reference/libags-gui/libags_gui.types
        new file:   docs/reference/libags-gui/libags_gui.types.in
        new file:   docs/reference/libags/libags-overrides.txt.in
        renamed:    docs/reference/libags/libags-sections.txt -> docs/reference/libags/libags-sections.txt.in
        renamed:    docs/reference/libags/libags.interfaces -> docs/reference/libags/libags.interfaces.in
        renamed:    docs/reference/libags/libags.types -> docs/reference/libags/libags.types.in
        new file:   docs/reference/libgsequencer/libgsequencer-overrides.txt.in
        renamed:    docs/reference/libgsequencer/libgsequencer-sections.txt -> docs/reference/libgsequencer/libgsequencer-sections.txt.in
        renamed:    docs/reference/libgsequencer/libgsequencer.interfaces -> docs/reference/libgsequencer/libgsequencer.interfaces.in
        renamed:    docs/reference/libgsequencer/libgsequencer.types -> docs/reference/libgsequencer/libgsequencer.types.in

Hi Ineiev,

If you want me to create m4 macros to strip listings, just tell so.

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/docs/listings/README?h=2.2.x

> I just double checked all XML files, they all contain copyright and license notice.

Thank you!

You should check all copyrightable files.  For example, as of a98264770c44fb7, TODO and ags/object/ags_marshallers.list still have no copyright and license notices.  There are other such files as well.

Hi Ineiev,

I am not sure what you want exactly.

Do you think I should provide some metadata tags in project files?

by Joël

Hi Ineiev,

I just recognized progress with gettext:

https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?52227

best regards,
Joël

> You have failed to approve the library in time.

Yes, I have.  Sorry.

> because they were generated by the application `gsequencer`

I think this is a poor excuse. If that application is proprietary, you shouldn't use it at all, if it's free, you can modify it to make it include the necessary lines.

I'd also like to have your answers for the two other questions from comment #131.

Hi Ineiev,

Why, because they were generated by the application `gsequencer` and every time I edit/save the file the comment won't be preserved. This is error prone but I don't think there are frequent changes to the files.

I have problems with gettext files, only.

Hi Ineiev,

I just removed gsequencer-mac-os-x.patch because it is outdated.

Despite you told me prior, it is no problem to list the *.xml files in README only, because they were generated by the application `gsequencer`. I have added a copyright notice to following files:

• ags_example.xml
• ags_functional_audio_config_test.xml
• ags_functional_notation_edit_test.xml

About the files in po/*, yes they are from `gettext` and I created a README:

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/po/README?h=2.1.x

I think, that I am not eligible to add copyright information for someone else. I contacted the maintainer and obviously you, too.

https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=52227
https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=54809

I regenerated the files using latest gettext:

$ gettext --version
gettext (GNU gettext-runtime) 0.19.8.1
Copyright (C) 1995-1997, 2000-2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
Written by Ulrich Drepper.

... but no improvement.

Sorry for the delay; I'll take a look within a week.

One more:

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/commit/?h=2.1.x&id=60708a2b3c60c46a35a2764d7134b14f6d144bdb

Since I use copyright year ranges, I have added this:

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/commit/?h=2.1.x&id=45e3f5c98207c5cbe11be76a755cd723cffc51aa

Hi Ineiev,

There is one file, I need advice for what license I should use:

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/org.nongnu.gsequencer.gsequencer.appdata.xml?h=2.1.x

Permissive would be nice, but I think there was a build service requiring some other license. I wanted to package for Elementary OS, but the CI fails with an unknown error to me (I think it is just about packaging).

ChangeLog is as copyrightable as NEWS, and has the same format.  I'd suggest checking all files listed in README since your script skips them.

>  So everything is fine.

Not exactly fine. NEWS is a plain text file, it should have copyright and license notices in itself (by the way, NEWS still has no copyright notice). README is only the fallback for formats that don't allow embedded comments (I'm sorry, I had to repeat this).

Hello, Joël!

NEWS still has no copyright and license notices.

Do you still use test-copyright-and-license.sh? If yes, did it miss NEWS for some reason, or didn't you check all files the script listed?

renamed the files:

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/commit/?h=2.1.x&id=2eb31fca1aa78660a986ef8abcd913f5c345f2fe

and implemented m4/ags-symbols.m4:

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/commit/?h=2.1.x&id=fc00651e42836a16d0143aa4a79b5aff91ba7c22

I hope this fits the needs.

No. Don't think you can abuse your power.

If you want comments ask libtool developers.

The symlink was just removed.

Some .sym files still have no notices, as well as NEWS.

Symbolic links like gtk-doc.make are misleading: they can point to any texts.

Hi Ineiev

I just removed ABOUT-NLS. Do you approve the submission now, please?

Hi Ineiev,

I could just delete the file. What do you think about it?

Hi Ineiev,

Just sent Daiki Ueno an email to ask for copyright and license notice.

Yes, it should have a notice. Not at least because it was provided by official GNU software `gettext`.

However I think it uses GFDL-1.2+. Can you verify this?

Copyright and license for gettext documentation:

   Copyright (C) 1995-1998, 2001-2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

   This manual is free documentation.  It is dually licensed under the
GNU FDL and the GNU GPL.  This means that you can redistribute this
manual under either of these two licenses, at your choice.

   This manual is covered by the GNU FDL.  Permission is granted to
copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU
Free Documentation License (FDL), either version 1.2 of the License, or
(at your option) any later version published by the Free Software
Foundation (FSF); with no Invariant Sections, with no Front-Cover Text,
and with no Back-Cover Texts.

   This manual is covered by the GNU GPL.  You can redistribute it
and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
(GPL), either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later
version published by the Free Software Foundation (FSF).

Hi,
You have already reported the bug:

https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?54809

(comment #87):

> What about the GNU FDL-1.3 as docbook XML:

...

> It doesn't have a copyright notice...

It does have both notices,

> Copyright &#169; 2000, 2001, 2002, 2007, 2008
>    <ulink url="http://www.fsf.org/">Free Software Foundation, Inc.</ulink>

...

> Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this
>    license document, but changing it is not allowed.

In fact, this is the preferable form in such files: the reader should normally see them.

(comment #88):

> I am unsure about:
>
>  * ABOUT-NLS

Do you mean you copied it from some package, and it had no notices there? Since you add it to your package, it's your responsibility to figure out and add the notices.

(comment #90)..(comment #95) scripts are fine as long as they work.

Hi Ineiev,

I could improve the script to check README files for copyright and license notice. So the filtered result looks like:

Summary of suspicious files:
================================
Verify: ./ags/lib/ags_parameter.c
Verify: ./ags/gettext.h
Verify: ./lv2/lv2plug.in/ns/lv2ext/lv2_programs.h
Verify: ./docs/appa.xml
Verify: ./.deps/ags_input_test.Po
Verify: ./ags/Makefile.am
Verify: ./ags/test/object/ags_config_test_sample.conf
Verify: ./ags/widget/ags_widget_marshallers.list
Verify: ./ags/config.h.in
Verify: ./m4/lib-link.m4
Verify: ./m4/po.m4
Verify: ./m4/wint_t.m4
Verify: ./m4/intmax.m4
Verify: ./m4/xsize.m4
Verify: ./m4/inttypes-pri.m4
Verify: ./m4/threadlib.m4
Verify: ./m4/progtest.m4
Verify: ./m4/size_max.m4
Verify: ./m4/uintmax_t.m4
Verify: ./m4/lt~obsolete.m4
Verify: ./m4/intl.m4
Verify: ./m4/intdiv0.m4
Verify: ./m4/Makefile.am
Verify: ./m4/lib-prefix.m4
Verify: ./m4/printf-posix.m4
Verify: ./m4/ltsugar.m4
Verify: ./m4/longlong.m4
Verify: ./m4/nls.m4
Verify: ./m4/lcmessage.m4
Verify: ./m4/ltversion.m4
Verify: ./m4/stdint_h.m4
Verify: ./m4/glibc2.m4
Verify: ./m4/codeset.m4
Verify: ./m4/lock.m4
Verify: ./m4/ltoptions.m4
Verify: ./m4/wchar_t.m4
Verify: ./m4/gettext.m4
Verify: ./m4/iconv.m4
Verify: ./m4/Makefile.in
Verify: ./m4/inttypes_h.m4
Verify: ./m4/glibc21.m4
Verify: ./m4/extern-inline.m4
Verify: ./m4/lib-ld.m4
Verify: ./m4/fcntl-o.m4
Verify: ./m4/intldir.m4
Verify: ./m4/intlmacosx.m4
Verify: ./m4/visibility.m4
Verify: ./m4/libtool.m4
Verify: ./docs/Makefile.am
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-gui/git.mk
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-gui/gtk-doc.make
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-gui/Makefile.am
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-gui/Makefile.in
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-audio/git.mk
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-audio/gtk-doc.make
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-audio/Makefile.am
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-audio/Makefile.in
Verify: ./docs/reference/libgsequencer/git.mk
Verify: ./docs/reference/libgsequencer/gtk-doc.make
Verify: ./docs/reference/libgsequencer/Makefile.am
Verify: ./docs/reference/libgsequencer/Makefile.in
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags/git.mk
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags/gtk-doc.make
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags/Makefile.am
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags/Makefile.in
Verify: ./po/boldquot.sed
Verify: ./po/Makevars
Verify: ./po/Makefile.in.in
Verify: ./po/Makevars.template
Verify: ./po/stamp-po
Verify: ./po/en@boldquot.header
Verify: ./po/POTFILES.in
Verify: ./po/ChangeLog
Verify: ./po/insert-header.sin
Verify: ./po/*.po
Verify: ./po/remove-potcdate.sin
Verify: ./po/quot.sed
Verify: ./po/Rules-quot
Verify: ./po/en@quot.header
Verify: ./autom4te.cache/traces.0
Verify: ./autom4te.cache/output.1
Verify: ./autom4te.cache/traces.1
Verify: ./autom4te.cache/requests
Verify: ./autom4te.cache/output.0
================================

---

have fun,
Joël

Hi Ineiev,

I just have improved the script to check full license notice and match all files. Here is its output:

================================
Verify: ./COPYING.docs
Verify: ./functional-system-tests.mk.in
Verify: ./compile
Verify: ./libags.sym
Verify: ./configure
Verify: ./libags_audio.sym
Verify: ./.gitignore
Verify: ./depcomp
Verify: ./unit-tests.mk
Verify: ./libags_thread.sym
Verify: ./TODO
Verify: ./libgsequencer.pc.in
Verify: ./aclocal.m4
Verify: ./libags_audio.pc.in
Verify: ./libags.pc.in
Verify: ./configure.ac
Verify: ./INSTALL
Verify: ./NEWS
Verify: ./ltmain.sh
Verify: ./gsequencer-mac-os-x.patch
Verify: ./install-sh
Verify: ./.deps/ags_input_test.Po
Verify: ./ags/Makefile.am
Verify: ./ags/test/object/ags_config_test_sample.conf
Verify: ./ags/object/ags_marshallers.list
Verify: ./ags/object/README
Verify: ./ags/widget/README
Verify: ./ags/widget/ags_widget_marshallers.list
Verify: ./ags/config.h.in
Verify: ./ABOUT-NLS
Verify: ./description
Verify: ./license-notice-gnu-fdl-1-3-xml.txt
Verify: ./Makefile.am
Verify: ./stamp-h1
Verify: ./COPYING.server
Verify: ./m4/lib-link.m4
Verify: ./m4/po.m4
Verify: ./m4/wint_t.m4
Verify: ./m4/intmax.m4
Verify: ./m4/xsize.m4
Verify: ./m4/inttypes-pri.m4
Verify: ./m4/threadlib.m4
Verify: ./m4/progtest.m4
Verify: ./m4/size_max.m4
Verify: ./m4/uintmax_t.m4
Verify: ./m4/lt~obsolete.m4
Verify: ./m4/intl.m4
Verify: ./m4/intdiv0.m4
Verify: ./m4/Makefile.am
Verify: ./m4/lib-prefix.m4
Verify: ./m4/printf-posix.m4
Verify: ./m4/ltsugar.m4
Verify: ./m4/longlong.m4
Verify: ./m4/README
Verify: ./m4/nls.m4
Verify: ./m4/lcmessage.m4
Verify: ./m4/ltversion.m4
Verify: ./m4/stdint_h.m4
Verify: ./m4/glibc2.m4
Verify: ./m4/codeset.m4
Verify: ./m4/lock.m4
Verify: ./m4/ltoptions.m4
Verify: ./m4/wchar_t.m4
Verify: ./m4/gettext.m4
Verify: ./m4/iconv.m4
Verify: ./m4/Makefile.in
Verify: ./m4/inttypes_h.m4
Verify: ./m4/glibc21.m4
Verify: ./m4/extern-inline.m4
Verify: ./m4/lib-ld.m4
Verify: ./m4/fcntl-o.m4
Verify: ./m4/intldir.m4
Verify: ./m4/intlmacosx.m4
Verify: ./m4/visibility.m4
Verify: ./m4/libtool.m4
Verify: ./README
Verify: ./license-notice-gnu-agpl3-0+-c.txt
Verify: ./COPYING
Verify: ./COPYING.stk-4.3
Verify: ./license-notice-gnu-gpl-3-0+-c.txt
Verify: ./gsequencer.share/styles/README
Verify: ./gsequencer.share/styles/ags.rc
Verify: ./gsequencer.share/icons/ags.xpm
Verify: ./gsequencer.share/icons/ags.png
Verify: ./gsequencer.share/icons/jumper.png
Verify: ./gsequencer.share/icons/README
Verify: ./gsequencer.share/images/ags.png
Verify: ./gsequencer.share/images/README
Verify: ./gsequencer.share/images/ags_supermoon-800x450.png
Verify: ./config.guess
Verify: ./mkinstalldirs
Verify: ./test-driver
Verify: ./ChangeLog
Verify: ./gsequencer-documentation
Verify: ./clean-gtk-doc.sh
Verify: ./ags_license_header
Verify: ./libags_gui.pc.in
Verify: ./gsequencer.desktop.in
Verify: ./libags_gui.sym
Verify: ./libags_server.sym
Verify: ./license-notice-permissive-xml.txt
Verify: ./docs/lac2018/README
Verify: ./docs/Makefile.am
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-gui/git.mk
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-gui/gtk-doc.make
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-gui/libags_gui-overrides.txt
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-gui/Makefile.am
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-gui/README
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-gui/libags_gui.interfaces
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-gui/libags_gui.types
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-gui/Makefile.in
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-gui/libags_gui-sections.txt
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-audio/git.mk
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-audio/gtk-doc.make
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-audio/libags_audio-sections.txt
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-audio/libags_audio.types
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-audio/Makefile.am
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-audio/README
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-audio/Makefile.in
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-audio/libags_audio-overrides.txt
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags-audio/libags_audio.interfaces
Verify: ./docs/reference/libgsequencer/libgsequencer-sections.txt
Verify: ./docs/reference/libgsequencer/git.mk
Verify: ./docs/reference/libgsequencer/gtk-doc.make
Verify: ./docs/reference/libgsequencer/libgsequencer.types
Verify: ./docs/reference/libgsequencer/libgsequencer-overrides.txt
Verify: ./docs/reference/libgsequencer/Makefile.am
Verify: ./docs/reference/libgsequencer/README
Verify: ./docs/reference/libgsequencer/libgsequencer.interfaces
Verify: ./docs/reference/libgsequencer/Makefile.in
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags/git.mk
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags/libags.types
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags/gtk-doc.make
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags/libags-overrides.txt
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags/Makefile.am
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags/README
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags/libags-sections.txt
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags/libags.interfaces
Verify: ./docs/reference/libags/Makefile.in
Verify: ./docs/listings/README
Verify: ./docs/images/AGS_recall_lifecycle.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_mixer.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags-toolbar.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_position_wave_cursor_dialog.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_wave_window_audiorec.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_machine_properties-resize_channels.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_select_accelerations_dialog.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_navigation.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_midi_export_wizard_no1.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_select_buffers_dialog.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_machine_properties-input.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_midi_import_wizard_no1.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_ffplayer.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_syncsynth.png
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Verify: ./docs/images/ags_equalizer10.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_spectrometer.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags-wave-toolbar.png
Verify: ./docs/images/AGS_iterator.png
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Verify: ./docs/images/ags_machine_envelope_info.png
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Verify: ./docs/images/README
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Verify: ./docs/images/ags_position_notation_cursor_dialog.png
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Verify: ./docs/images/ags_machine_envelope_pattern.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_audiorec.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_generic_preferences.png
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Verify: ./docs/images/ags_machine_properties-link_input.png
Verify: ./docs/images/AGS_linking.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_export_window.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags-automation-toolbar.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_midi_preferences.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_drum.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_midi_import_wizard_no2.png
Verify: ./docs/images/AGS_super-threaded.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_synth.png
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Verify: ./docs/images/ags_matrix.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_machine_envelope_editor.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_server_preferences.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_position_automation_cursor_dialog.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_audio_connection_output_line.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_midi_export_wizard_no2.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_select_notes_dialog.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_move_notes_dialog.png
Verify: ./docs/images/ags_audio_connection_input_line.png
Verify: ./apple_script.sh
Verify: ./config.sub
Verify: ./Makefile.in
Verify: ./po/boldquot.sed
Verify: ./po/Makevars
Verify: ./po/Makefile.in.in
Verify: ./po/Makevars.template
Verify: ./po/README
Verify: ./po/stamp-po
Verify: ./po/en@boldquot.header
Verify: ./po/POTFILES.in
Verify: ./po/ChangeLog
Verify: ./po/insert-header.sin
Verify: ./po/*.po
Verify: ./po/gsequencer.pot
Verify: ./po/remove-potcdate.sin
Verify: ./po/quot.sed
Verify: ./po/Rules-quot
Verify: ./po/en@quot.header
Verify: ./config.h.in
Verify: ./test-copyright-and-license.sh
Verify: ./config.rpath
Verify: ./functional-system-tests.mk.am
Verify: ./autom4te.cache/traces.0
Verify: ./autom4te.cache/output.1
Verify: ./autom4te.cache/traces.1
Verify: ./autom4te.cache/requests
Verify: ./autom4te.cache/output.0
Verify: ./missing
Verify: ./acsite.m4
Verify: ./gsequencer.1
Verify: ./functional-tests.mk
Verify: ./AUTHORS
Verify: ./midi2xml.1
================================

Hi,

I just created the script listing suspicious files:

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/test-copyright-and-license.sh?h=2.0.x

The only files to verify are:

Verify: ags/lib/ags_parameter.c
Verify: ags/gettext.h

They contain valid copyright and license notice.

Now it is up to you

Bests,
Joël

I have just checked:

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/docs/developersBook?h=2.0.x
http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/docs/usersBook?h=2.0.x
http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/docs/lac2018?h=2.0.x

and sorted the entries of README:

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/docs/images?h=2.0.x
http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/docs/listings?h=2.0.x

I have updated the API reference manual READMEs:

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/docs/reference/libags/README?h=2.0.x
http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/docs/reference/libags-audio/README?h=2.0.x
http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/docs/reference/libags-gui/README?h=2.0.x
http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/docs/reference/libgsequencer/README?h=2.0.x

You got me with this file:

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/m4?h=2.0.x

^^ I am not sure what above is good for. I know not much about m4 macros. I just know that autoconf/automake uses it. Do I have to list all licenses of the files?

Anyhow, all files *.m4 have got a copyright and license note.

Well this is empty:

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/po/*.po?h=2.0.x

I have listed all files on toplevel directory:

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/README?h=2.0.x#n239

I am unsure about:

• ABOUT-NLS

Hi,

You were "right", if you would have know about missing notices in: unit_tests.mk ...

Why didn't you tell me about?

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/commit/?h=2.0.x&id=785b14578b733c72fb07a74d1a76afd11bf363a8

Bests,
Joël

Ineiev,
First, you do some wrong interpretation of what I am telling you.

Second, you don't believe in my intention.

Third, you even do false accusation.

If it is your want to stop development of Advanced Gtk+ Sequencer, then I have to leave.

Now, I want you to response to the key statements:

1. Is it about trust?
2. What file has no copyright and license notice?
3. What do you don't understand as telling you ALL FILES have a valid copyleft?

Please answer to these simple questions above, no ambiguous interpretation that doesn't make any sense to me.

> It is time to tell you what to recognize. ALL FILES related to the application contain valid copyright and license notices. This means all files matching the pattern: ags_*.[ch]

This is where we disagree: all files in your repository are related to the application; if not, they don't belong it.

You might say that many files won't go to the new package; however, the old package, Advanced Gtk+ Sequencer, is subject to the same policies. I can re-open its submission if you wish, and we'll return to this task #14667 after it's fixed.

> Your argumentation has some incompleteness and looks not serious.

I'm sorry to read this. I'm afraid you'll have to take it seriously.

> You want me to do your job

My job, i.e. checking the files, is a part of your job, because you are to enforce the compliance.

Hi Ineiev,

If you are interested in a overview of the application, here is a youtube link.

https://youtu.be/b-kgi-hVMok

> All files have now copyright and license notice. If not, because I didn't recognize it.

Then we should make sure that you now recognize it correctly.

• How did you recognize them before?
• How is it different now?
• What should those notices look like?

I think I'm not on the same page.

You say you didn't miss any files. Before comment #69, copyrightable files like configure.ac had no copyright and license notices. Do you mean you left them without notices intentionally?

I think this calls for another question, namely, why these files don't support comments, and doesn't answer the original questions:

> Did you make sure that all files in your tarball have valid copyright and license notices?

and

> (In fact, how did it come out that you missed the files I pointed out previously, in comment #69?)

(I've corrected the comment No when citing comment #72).

Hi, Joël,

Did you make sure that all files in your tarball have valid copyright and license notices?

(In fact, how did it come out that you missed the files I pointed out previously, in comment #64?)

I have corrected the mentioned files missing copyright.

Just added missing copyright notices.

> ags.xsl contains...

Yes, it does. That text is a license notice, it isn't a copyright notice. The copyright notice is absent.

> gsequencer.1...

That text is ambiguous. "Version 3 or later" doesn't necessarily mean that the user is free to apply any GPL version since 3.

> Other files
>
> They all include valid copyright notices, afaik.

No. For instance, gsequencer.share/styles/ags.rc doesn't. Please check what valid copyright and license notices should look like.

Short licenses like COPYING.stk-4.3 should be embedded directly in the relevant source files, there is no need to put them in dedicated files.

gsequencer.share/demo-songs/agsly.xml
gsequencer.share/styles/ags.rc
functional-tests.mk
libags_audio.sym
ags/object/ags_marshallers.list
ags/test/scale_test.c have neither copyright nor license notices.

The notices for ags/object/ags_marshal.c moved to README, this is not correct; README is only a fallback for the formats that don't allow for notices.

ags.xsl configure.ac have no valid copyright notice.

The license notice in gsequencer.1 is ambiguous: it doesn't say at whose option GPL version number is.

I didn't look through all files; please check other files as well.

Since you'll edit files to fix those issues, anyway, I recommend
using the full form of GPL notices in README files,

    This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
    it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
    the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
    (at your option) any later version.

    This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
    but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
    MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
    GNU General Public License for more details.

    You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
    along with this program.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.

Hi,

Unsure, if I did it correct.

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/commit/?h=2.0.x
http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/ags/audio/recall/ags_peak_audio_signal.c?h=2.0.x

Yes, I think it's the full text of the license; I believe it's GPL-compatible.

No, I didn't see that text (and text of any other license) on that page.

I see no license text on that page.

I see; that repository does contain such files; they say, "declare license "STK-4.3"; // Synthesis Tool Kit 4.3 (MIT style license)", but what is the actual text of that license?

> It looks good so far. At the week-end, I intend to do the beta release.

Good, I'll check it.

> Can you tell me any tool to inspect the files automated?

Not really. Assaf had a beta-level script, but I even couldn't make it run locally for me. I do it manually like $view `find . -type f`.

> My Faust code is all licensed "STK-4.3"

When I download a snapshot of the master branch of Faust from GitHub, the license specified is GPLv2+. Is that a different program?

Hi Ineiev,

I would love to provide a 10 band peaking equalizer. Much of the work was done so far, except the relaying algorithm.

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/ags/audio/recall/ags_eq10_audio_signal.c?h=2.0.x#n193

^^ this function is going to be fixed because it is not what I want.

I tried to contact the author of:

https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/filters/Peaking_Equalizers.html

But without any response, so far. Do you think it is safe to use his finding and rewrite it as a GSequencer effect processor?

I am unsure about because it is more than just a+b (this is actual how you mix audio buffers). Else, do you know anyone able to provide me some basics that we can reuse?

I have a lot to do in view of the beta release, at worst case I am going to derive my own equalizer algorithm.

thank you,
Joël

Very well, we'll wait.

Thank you, Joël.

Have you checked all files in your distribution?

Just added the copyright:

Copyright (C) 2005-2018 Joël Krähemann

docs/images/README
gsequencer.share/icons/README
gsequencer.share/images/README

I prefere the range because you have to regard it as entire. Thought, the logo is older but can't tell the exact creation date.

If you want to know in detail we have to do some research in very old release and may be find a stolen notebook. Or do some data recovery on old floppy disks.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/ags/files/0.2.x/

^^ Here are some files I was able to rescue. The earliest timestamp is around April or May of 2004.

I just edited meta information of the PNGs and added GFDL v1.3 as license.

Hi Ineiev

Sorry for the delayed response. I have missed your reply.

As an excuse, I revise the entire code base. This is a really time consuming task.

My will, is definitely to match hosting requirements. I hope you understand. The large amount of code makes it difficult to maintain. Any help would be appreciated.

AGS_iterator.png is listed here:

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/docs/images/README?h=2.0.x#n24

Bests,
Joël

Yes, I did so.

Hi Ineiev,

Just added the READMEs to subdirectories.

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/commit/?h=2.0.x&id=5e57b547f8d46c60e0e799002f95dcd5f509e609

Hi Ineiev,

Just updated the README and I am more explicit, now. Sorry about the icons missing license notes.

Well their origin is from the very same GIMP file.

However it was not clear to me what license exactly. So I just removed it and disabled the unit-test.

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/commit/?h=2.0.x&id=b0deb2e4a73c22932d678a9fe99b39989965d79c

The changes go to master as soon the 2.0.x branch is ready for release.

Hello, Joël;

I wouldn't like to consider the issue under this angle: what particular files I don't want. My personal preferences shouldn't matter; the point is that the maintainers of the package should follow Savannah policies, including the rules about copyright status and distribution terms (I don't think I should put a link here, because you must have read all those things carefully when you submitted your package to GNU, agreeing to follow all those guidelines).

Do you think that file was compliant with the policies? If yes, please explain how.

> Either they have a valid copyright and license notice or otherwise stated here:
>
> http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/README?h=2.0.x#n50

Notes like "licensed under the terms of GNU GPLv3+" are not clear enough, could you use a form recommended by the GNU project?

Some files like docs/images/ags_ffplayer.png still lack copyright notices, and the form of the "copyright notice" for the others is not valid, like "copyright provided by Stefan Sauer", please check what a copyright notice should look like. (Note that the README file should be located in the same directory as the files whose notices it includes.)

I'm sorry I have to cite these documents since you must had read them before you offered your package for the GNU project.

> Just found 4 files without any:

...

> But only this one is included in the tarball:

Why are the 3 other included in VCS? Strictly speaking, you distribute them. Why do you make your repository technically undistributable?

> http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/ags_functional_notation_edit_test.xml?h=2.0.x
>
> It is a file produced by GSequencer and used by the unit-tests. 
> I think mention it in the README would be fine because the
> application doesn't support adding license notes.

I agree.

What about other files in your tarball? Do they all have valid copyright and license notices?

Hello, Joël!

I'd appreciate it very much if you replied on Savannah rather than by email, it would be much more convenient for me.

> It is the original file provided by the mda-lv2 package.

I don't think this is relevant.  Any file you distribute should have valid notices.

> First it is not common to *.ttl files to have license notes

Why not?

> and I have stated the license note in the README (see last line)

First, the README file should be located in the same directory with the file in question, second, you still didn't provide a valid copyright notice, please check https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/Copyright-Notices.html to see how they should look like, and the license notice is also not satisfactorily unambiguous; for recommended texts please see the licenses themselves, https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-howto.html and https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/License-Notices-for-Code.html.

gsequencer.1 lacks a license notice.

Please make sure every file in your tarball has valid copyright and license notices.

Hi,
Just regenerated gsequencer.1 and midi2xml.1 and added more copyright notes to README.

Still waiting for gtk-doc.

Just commited a new version of the README
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/README?h=1.1.x

I am unsure about if this is really BSD licensed, could you verify this:
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/lv2/lv2plug.in/ns/lv2ext/lv2_programs.h?h=1.1.x

Still missing is response of gettext and gtk-doc.

Thank you,
Joël

FYI: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=28838

Hi,

The code produced by `glib-genmarshal` might be able to redistribute under the terms of GNU LGPLv2.1+.

FYI: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788990

> Recently I have stated that libags_server.so is licensed under the terms of the GNU AGPLv3+. The person corrected me and told we license source files and not binaries.

The person? Who were they?

Certainly you can distribute binaries under the AGPLv3, it has specific provisions for that case; if you do, these binaries are licensed under the terms of the GNU AGPLv3.

> You are complaining about copyright of generated files. I think it is questionable if you can license them at all.

I believe I can.  When people download a binary installer, it usually comes with a message saying the terms of use of the program it installs, that is, license.  Why do you think generated files are not licensable?

> Another problem is more that as you run `autoreconf -fi` new versions of the files are going to be installed. So copyright notice would be in first instance misleading.

I again misunderstand you.  Please elaborate: how would it be misleading?

> Recently I read about RMS arguing with free software license you should obtain a patent, too. Is this yet solved?

I'm not sure what you are speaking about.  Could you share a link?

I'm surely misunderstand your explanation: how do you justify files of uncertain copyright status (which means those files are forbidden to distribute) in your tarball?

Unfortunately, the submission of gsequencer doesn't clarify that very much.

There are lines in README like

> Third-party files with uncertain copyright provided by ...

Your package can't include any files with uncertain copyright, such files make your package legally undistributable; please find out their exact copyright status or don't use them in your package.

Hi Ineiev,

Regardless that gsequencer.1.xml does not get to the requested repository. I just have added a copyright notice.

http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/commit/?h=1.1.x&id=9a87bd60965eddefcbbe7d05080a3a5c8c1d40d5

I see; now, all copyrightable files should have valid copyright and license notices; in your tarball, files like libags_audio.sym and gsequencer.1 have none.

Could you fix that?

(Please note that I point to just two first files without notices I've encountered; there are likely to be more.)

You can build the libraries without OSS4 or core-audio support.

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• Name: Advanced Gtk+ Sequencer Library
• System Name:  libags
• Type: non-GNU software and documentation
• License: GNU General Public License v3 or later (The libags-server is published under the terms of the GNU AGPLv3+. All human edited documentation and manuals are published under the terms of GFDLv1.3

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Description:

Advanced Gtk+ Sequencer Library provides common objects and methods to applications. It is written in GNU C using GObject. The goal of the project is to provide abstraction of specific tasks. Like having synchronized threads, remote control of your application using XMLRPC or parallel tree based data processing.

The project provides following libraries:

• libags
  • utility and library routines
  • core functions and basic abstraction
  • application context and configuration
  • persistence
• libags-thread
  • synchronized thread tree
  • worker threads
  • thread pool
  • non-blocking task engine
• libags-server
  • common controllers
  • authentication
  • registry and remote control
• libags-audio
  • tree based representation of audio data
  • modular processing units
  • parallel computing tree

Other Software Required:

gettext, GPLv3+, http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/,
libglib-2.0, LGPLv2+, http://www.gtk.org/,
libxml2, ?, http://xmlsoft.org/,
XMLRPC-C, BSD-3-clause, http://xmlrpc-c.sourceforge.net/,
libuuid1, GPLv2+, http://freecode.com/projects/util-linux/, 
LADSPA, LGPL-2.1+, http://ladspa.org,
DSSI, LGPL-2.1+, http://dssi.sourceforge.net/,
LV2, ISC license, http://lv2plug.in/,
libinstpatch-1.0, LGPLv2, http://swamiproject.org/,
libsndfile-1.0, LGPLv2+, http://mega-nerd.com/,
libsamplerate, GPLv2+, http://mega-nerd.com/,
alsa-lib, LGPL-2.1+, http://www.alsa-project.org/,
OSS4, GPLv2, http://www.opensound.com/,
Jack Audio Connection Kit, LGPL-2.1+, http://jackaudio.org/,
pulseaudio, LGPL-2.1+, https://freedesktop.org/,
core-audio, proprietary, http://developer.apple.com/,

Other Comments:

As process of applying to the GNU project it was recommended to split http://nongnu.org/gsequencer into 2 separate projects.

Tarball URL:

https://savannah.nongnu.org/submissions_uploads/gsequencer-1.0.0-beta.tar.gz