Mozilla 1.2 - Get It While It's Hot!
Tuesday November 26th, 2002

mozilla.org has just released Mozilla 1.2. New to this version (since 1.1) are Type Ahead Find, toolbars as text/icons/both, support for GTK themes on Linux and native style for HTML form controls on Windows XP, multiple tabs as startpage, Link Prefetching, filter after the fact and filter logging in Mail, the ability to sync your addressbook to a Palm device on MS Windows, and much, much more.

Builds are now starting to show up on the ftp servers, and the release notes have been posted. Be sure to check out the updating roadmap, as noted earlier this week.

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Xft enabled build for RH80?
submitted by djm (user profile)
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 12:59:23 AM

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This is excellent news! I have been using an Xft build of 1.2beta since mid-October and it has been at least as stable as the 1.0 that it replaced. Well done to all those who have contributed in one way or another.
Is there an Xft-enabled build for RH80? Or do I have to recompile it from the source RPM?
Re: Xft enabled build for RH80? by unknown Wed, Nov 27, 2002
They are on ftp.mozilla.org now by djm (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002

Quick!
submitted by larfnarf (user profile)
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 01:24:49 AM

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heh, QUICK! Somebody update the link in the build bar! Ok, sorry I had to do that :) Congrats to everybody involved in this release & hope to see many more in the future :) *hugs*

Confusion
submitted by Mazon
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 01:58:17 AM

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"however, our theory is that if link prefetching needs to be disabled then there must be something wrong with the implementation."
and then later
"prefetching is a browser feature; users should be able to disable it easily."
:)
Re: Confusion by darinwf (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Confusion by johnlar Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Link Prefetching Why????? by PaulB Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Nonsense.... you didn't think it through by arnoudb Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Link Prefetching Why????? by asa (profile) Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Re: Re: Link Prefetching Why????? by shieldwolf Fri, Nov 29, 2002
Re: Re: Re: Link Prefetching Why????? by dveditz Fri, Nov 29, 2002
Re: Re: Link Prefetching Why????? by shieldwolf Fri, Nov 29, 2002

Memory leaks
submitted by ed_welch
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 03:31:28 AM

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Amazingly they never fixed the memory leak bugs for this release: Bug 131456, Bug 171681 and Bug 174760
Re: Memory leaks by omidk Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Re: Memory leaks by bzbarsky (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Yeah by zero0w Wed, Nov 27, 2002

Installation Problem in Redhat 8
submitted by gigsvoo
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 03:38:20 AM

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I am not sure about this but after I get all the RPMS, it has conflict with the command "# rpm -Uvh *" as follow:
error: Failed dependencies: mozilla = 1.1 is needed by (installed) galeon-1.2.6-1
and I tried "# rpm -ivh *" and have this error:
Preparing... ########################################### [100%] file /usr/lib/libnspr4.so from install of mozilla-nspr-1.2-0_rh8 conflicts with file from package mozilla-nspr-1.1-0 file /usr/lib/libplc4.so from install of mozilla-nspr-1.2-0_rh8 conflicts with file from package mozilla-nspr-1.1-0 ....
what happened here? I thought I have Mozilla 1.1 installed and Galeon is using that??? I dun have these problem when I beta driving Mozilla 1.2 beta.
Please help!!!
Thanks
Neo Gigs
Re: Installation Problem in Redhat 8 by bzbarsky (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Re: Installation Problem in Redhat 8 by gigsvoo Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Installation Problem in Redhat 8 by javaman67 Wed, Nov 27, 2002

Installation Problem in Redhat 8
submitted by gigsvoo
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 03:41:54 AM

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I am not sure about this but after I get all the RPMS, it has conflict with the command "# rpm -Uvh *" as follow:
error: Failed dependencies: mozilla = 1.1 is needed by (installed) galeon-1.2.6-1
and I tried "# rpm -ivh *" and have this error:
Preparing... ########################################### [100%] file /usr/lib/libnspr4.so from install of mozilla-nspr-1.2-0_rh8 conflicts with file from package mozilla-nspr-1.1-0 file /usr/lib/libplc4.so from install of mozilla-nspr-1.2-0_rh8 conflicts with file from package mozilla-nspr-1.1-0 ....
what happened here? I thought I have Mozilla 1.1 installed and Galeon is using that??? I dun have these problem when I beta driving Mozilla 1.2 beta.
Please help!!!
Thanks
Neo Gigs

At last
submitted by hosking
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 04:39:13 AM

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Whay Ill get it tonight

showing ALT as tooltip
submitted by Hanno
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 06:09:33 AM

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why is this implemented, although nobody wants it: (LINK)
Re: showing ALT as tooltip by jilles Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Displaying what the site designer had in mind by bzbarsky (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: What about quirks mode? by thomanski Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Re: What about quirks mode? by bzbarsky (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002
because mainstream browsers display tooltips by jilles Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Re: because mainstream browsers display tooltips by asa (profile) Thu, Nov 28, 2002
no you're wrong by jilles Fri, Nov 29, 2002
Re: Re: showing ALT as tooltip by asa (profile) Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Why do we need TITLE for IMG? by ccapeng Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Re: Why do we need TITLE for IMG? by jgraham Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Thanks to this thread by ecarlson (profile) Thu, Nov 28, 2002

Great
submitted by fbl (user profile)
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 06:17:11 AM

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It took me a little bit of effort to get it installed on top of the 1.1. First I tried just to install it on top of 1.1, but then it would not start the mail, the bookmarks did not work, the skins did not work ..
Then I did an uninstall, copied the mail box files to another location, deleted all the old files, and installed it cleanly. Imported the bookmarks, copied in the mail files, and finally it worked perfectly.
Aside from the install, it still is (one of ) the best applications around. And even the cathedral builders in the dark ages used to put in at least one deliberate mistake in the buildings, just not to tempt faith.
It inspires me to see that open source applications can get to this level of quality and usability. A huge job, perfectly done ..
Installed fine for me. by ecarlson (profile) Thu, Nov 28, 2002

Toolbar grippies are gone...
submitted by ami_ganguli
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 06:36:54 AM

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I just realized that the old toolbar grippies, used to expand/collapse the various bars, are gone. Maybe they've been missing for a while and I just noticed.
I kind of miss them, although it's not a big deal really. Certainly the interface looks much cleaner than it once did - can't quite put my finger on why.
Re: Toolbar grippies are gone... by neva Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Pref for grippies by xerxes Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Pref for grippies by djm (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002

Slowdown in development
submitted by ezh
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 07:01:35 AM

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Have you noticed the slowdown in Moz development? Have you noticed that Netscape had moved his people away from Mozilla and now there are only about half of them when comparing to years beginning?
Does it means that AOL no more wants, needs this project but can't leave it completely in one moment? Or what?
Mayby someone from insiders can tell us something what's going on?
Tnx.
PS Sorry, if I'm wrong.
I haven't researched it, but... by bmacfarland Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: I haven't researched it, but... by stu42j Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Slowdown in development by lacostej Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Interesting by ecarlson (profile) Thu, Nov 28, 2002

Pop-up Ads - Mozilla 1.2 v. Netscape 7.0
submitted by jorgenson
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 07:50:14 AM

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Have used Mozilla 1.1 but have mostly been using Netscape 7.0 with the added "xpi" added via the "Unofficial Netscape FAQ" site to block pop-up ads. Netscape 7.0 has blocked these adds once I added the new "XPI"
Yesterday for some reason, Netscape 7.0 now brings back these pop-up adds. Very annoying. The box is unchecked in the Preference Scripts section to "open unwanted windows". Even reinstalled the "xpi" but . . . the ads keep coming back.
Any helpe here? What has happened in Netscape 7.0? Show I permanently switch over to Mozilla 1.2?
Thanks - Harvey
Re: Pop-up Ads - Mozilla 1.2 v. Netscape 7.0 by wolruf (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Re: Pop-up Ads - Mozilla 1.2 v. Netscape 7.0 by jorgenson Wed, Nov 27, 2002
no idea - not working for Netscape by wolruf (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Re: Re: Pop-up Ads - Mozilla 1.2 v. Netscape 7 by dveditz Fri, Nov 29, 2002
Re: Pop-up Ads - Mozilla 1.2 v. Netscape 7.0 by chithanh Fri, Nov 29, 2002

With moz 1.2, my banking service stopped working.
submitted by bjornte (user profile)
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 07:57:26 AM

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I have been a happy moz 1.1 user since it came out. Particularly, I like tabbed browsing and anti-pop-up. Also moz 1.1 supported my Internet Bank, which uses certificates and https.
Unfortunately, with moz 1.2, my bank no longer accepts the certificate, even though I have a clean, new install. Why? Also, the keyboard shortcuts for tabbed browsing (like ctrl-shift-click), is gone. Why?
I use Moz because the older Phoenix didn't have a Quick Start. Does the new Phoenix support this?
Re: With moz 1.2, my banking service stopped worki by wolruf (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Re: With moz 1.2, my banking service stopped worki by bjornte (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Re: With moz 1.2, my banking service stopped w by nostromo96 Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Re: Re: With moz 1.2, my banking service stopp by nostromo96 Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Thanks for the tip! by bjornte (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Is this a preference issue? by thegrommit Thu, Nov 28, 2002

Slowdown in development
submitted by ezh
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 08:07:26 AM

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Have you noticed the slowdown in Moz development? Have you noticed that Netscape had moved his people away from Mozilla and now there are only about half of them when comparing to years beginning?
Does it means that AOL no more wants, needs this project but can't leave it completely in one moment? Or what?
Mayby someone from insiders can tell us something what's going on?
Tnx.
PS Sorry, if I'm wrong.

And Netscape?
submitted by srayzen
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 08:30:44 AM

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I know you probably use just mozilla (or phoenix) but I use both, mozilla at work and netscape 7 at home (because of the support to netscape mail). And I wonder how much time does it take to the NS boys to update their browser with the latest mozilla? they are still in 1.01.
Those phoenix icons looks great by mesostinky Wed, Nov 27, 2002

sweet
submitted by rstalnecker
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 09:27:44 AM

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i've been a fan of mozilla for over a year now and have been grabbing the releases as they come out. mozilla 1.2 tops the list of my favorites and has been my default browser since i switched off of IE.

stable release page
submitted by morg (user profile)
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 12:12:22 PM

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If Mozilla 1.2 is the latest stable release, then this page: (LINK) should probably be updated.
Re: stable release page by WillyWonka (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002

Magnet Links
submitted by FodderMK
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 01:36:46 PM

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Share the bandwidth. My first post, so please forgive me if the links don't (LINK) correctly.
mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.2.tar.gz Magnet
mozilla-win32-1.2-talkback.zip Magnet
mozilla-macosX-1.2.smi.bin Magnet
Magnet Links by FodderMK Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Magnet Links by kerz (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Magnet Links by FodderMK Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Magnet Links by asa (profile) Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Re: Magnet Links by jsoderba Thu, Nov 28, 2002

Spellchecker problems in 1.2?
submitted by leonya
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 01:28:03 PM

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I installed the spellchecker from (LINK) (Windows). It worked well with 1.1, but with 1.2 I am seeing the following problem: If auto-spellchecking on send is enabled, when spellchecking window pops up on email sending, clicking the "Stop" button freezes the spellchecking window and I can no longer send the email or cancel the spellchecking window.
Re: Spellchecker problems in 1.2? by mbokil Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Spellchecker problems in 1.2? by leonya Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Spellchecker problems in 1.2? by mbokil Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: hope it works better than the old spellchecker by jbetak Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Re: hope it works better than the old spellche by Anagoge Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Re: Re: awesome.... by jbetak Sun, Dec 01, 2002
Re: Re: hope it works better than the old spellche by shipdoc008 Fri, Nov 29, 2002
Spellchecker problems in 1.2? - None - WORKS! by leonya Wed, Dec 04, 2002
linux 1.2 and 1.3a spellchecker by mbokil Fri, Nov 29, 2002
Re: Re: awesome.... by jbetak Sun, Dec 01, 2002

nice job mozilla developers
submitted by mbokil
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 01:43:16 PM

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The 1.2 final release is working well for me on both Linux and Windows. Nice job Mozilla developers. I would like to see the major memory leaks in 1.3 fixed before new features are added. Especially leaks associated with images need to be fixed since these really effect the perceptual quality of Mozilla for end users.

New 'Communicator' Threatens Netscape's Future
submitted by gbpa005
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 02:04:55 PM

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Please look at this: (LINK)
Re: New 'Communicator' Threatens Netscape's Future by ezh Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: New 'Communicator' Threatens Netscape's Future by mbokil Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Re: New 'Communicator' Threatens Netscape's Future by bzbarsky (profile) Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Re: Re: Re: New 'Communicator' Threatens Netscape' by ezh Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Re: Re: Re: Re: New 'Communicator' Threatens Netsc by asa (profile) Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 'Communicator' Threatens N by ezh Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Re: New 'Communicator' Threatens Netscape's Future by zero0w Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: XUL *could* become a killer app by ndeakin (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002

v1.2 only starts as root!
submitted by Ripat
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 02:57:33 PM

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Hmm... This is very strange... I just installed 1.2 and it works perfectly when I run it as root (mandrake 9.0), but when I try to start it as a normal user the startscript just finished immediately and nothing happens.
I did a clean install - wiped both the installation directory and the profile settings directory.
Does anyone have the same problem or a solution to it?
By the way... Type-ahead-find rocks!
Re: v1.2 only starts as root! by kryptolus Thu, Nov 28, 2002

v1.2 only starts as root!
submitted by Ripat
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 03:23:27 PM

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Hmm... This is very strange... I just installed 1.2 and it works perfectly when I run it as root (mandrake 9.0), but when I try to start it as a normal user the startscript just finished immediately and nothing happens.
I did a clean install - wiped both the installation directory and the profile settings directory.
Does anyone have the same problem or a solution to it?
By the way... Type-ahead-find rocks!
Re: v1.2 only starts as root! by klysus Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Very strange... by Ripat Thu, Nov 28, 2002

Image selection
submitted by Dracos
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 05:00:48 PM

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From the release notes:
" image selection visualization (image highlights with system selection color when selected)"
Is there a pref to turn this off?
Re: Image selection by mbokil Wed, Nov 27, 2002
I am a web developer by Dracos Wed, Nov 27, 2002
I wouldn't bet on that by mbokil Thu, Nov 28, 2002

Custom install doesn't allow customization
submitted by motobass
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 05:51:09 PM

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Hello, on Windows, at least, the custom installation option doesn't let you make any choices about what not to install. It's been like that with the recent builds too, but I figured that was for testing purposes.
Re: Custom install doesn't allow customization by dveditz Fri, Nov 29, 2002

Some banner ads not showing
submitted by darnell (user profile)
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 05:54:29 PM

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Has anyone noticed that you can't see some banner ads with Mozilla 1.2?
Look at CNN.com. At the top of the page there is a banner ad right next to the big CNN.COM logo. But you can't see it with Mozilla 1.2. Is this a bug or do I need to change a setting?
Sorry this got posted multiple times. by darnell (profile) Wed, Nov 27, 2002
Re: Some banner ads not showing by axl Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Banner ads by jgraham Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Link not working: my bad by jgraham Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Same problem at this site: by ecarlson (profile) Fri, Nov 29, 2002

Spam
submitted by jensend (user profile)
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 05:55:08 PM

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I thought the spam UI would be in 1.2... I guess I was wrong. Darn.

Some banner ads not showing
submitted by darnell (user profile)
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 06:12:39 PM

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Has anyone noticed that you can't see some banner ads with Mozilla 1.2?
Look at CNN.com. At the top of the page there is a banner ad right next to the big CNN.COM logo. But you can't see it with Mozilla 1.2. Is this a bug or do I need to change a setting?

Some banner ads not showing
submitted by darnell (user profile)
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 06:51:49 PM

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Has anyone noticed that you can't see some banner ads with Mozilla 1.2?
Look at CNN.com. At the top of the page there is a banner ad right next to the big CNN.COM logo. But you can't see it with Mozilla 1.2. Is this a bug or do I need to change a setting?

Some banner ads not showing
submitted by darnell (user profile)
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 07:28:14 PM

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Has anyone noticed that you can't see some banner ads with Mozilla 1.2?
Look at CNN.com. At the top of the page there is a banner ad right next to the big CNN.COM logo. But you can't see it with Mozilla 1.2. Is this a bug or do I need to change a setting?

I am tossing Mozilla out - somebody made a booboo
submitted by windtalker
Wednesday November 27th, 2002 10:17:00 PM

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Installing Mozilla 1.0 was exciting unitil I found out that I can no longer edit my Bookmarks intelligently. The search function only finds the URLs, but does not tell you where they are (who is the jerk who decided that?) The results show up in a new window, without indicating which bookmark directory they are in. You can only click them to go to the page. Therefore, I have to do a search again to use the bookmark again. That sure is stupid. My bookmark file has built up over the years to over 10,000 entries and I work hard to keep them organized, but now, without seaching sucessively to the next bookmark and allowing me to drag it to the directory I want it in, I can kiss clean bookmark organization goodbye. Well... I actually will kiss Mozilla good-bye, as the still birth that it is, even though tabbed browsing is much desired. Too bad... I am cheer for free software, but there are people making bad decisions and I feel locked out.
Re: I am tossing Mozilla out - somebody made a boo by jilles Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Re: Re: I am tossing Mozilla out - somebody made a by pepejeria Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Re: I am tossing Mozilla out - somebody made a booboo by mporta Thu, Nov 28, 2002

No Edit->Preferences->Privacy & Security->Pop-ups?
submitted by megazone
Thursday November 28th, 2002 01:44:38 AM

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1.2b had this *great* feature - but it is gone in 1.2. Oversight? Something that shouldn't have been in 1.2b in the first place? I went back to 1.2b for this.
Re: No Edit->Preferences->Privacy & Security->Pop- by vgendler Thu, Nov 28, 2002
No Edit->Preferences->Privacy & Security->Pop-ups? by megazone Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Ah, it was backed out. by megazone Thu, Nov 28, 2002

cache
submitted by phantom_1138
Thursday November 28th, 2002 09:12:00 AM

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when I close a page mozilla saves something to disk. It slows down the system.
Re: cache by phantom_1138 Thu, Nov 28, 2002
Yes, the hard disc access when closing by zero0w Thu, Nov 28, 2002
downgrade by phantom_1138 Thu, Nov 28, 2002

RPMs for RH 7.x?
submitted by jonik (user profile)
Thursday November 28th, 2002 12:24:37 PM

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Are those coming at some point?
# rpm -Fvh *rpm error: failed dependencies: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) is needed by mozilla-1.2-0_rh8
Never mind. by jonik (profile) Fri, Nov 29, 2002

mozilla mail is a s..t
submitted by phantom_1138
Thursday November 28th, 2002 01:07:57 PM

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why don't we set up smtp servers for each e-mail account separately easily as outlook, you should edit smtp server list in a strange order to work. for 3 months most smtp servers work only for their own pop3 accounts. like; smtp.thedomain.com only works with pop.thedomain.com. Currently mozilla mail is useless for multiple accounts, not for average users.

AOL Communicator leaked!
submitted by ezh
Thursday November 28th, 2002 06:27:38 PM

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(LINK)
Re: AOL Communicator leaked! by ezh Thu, Nov 28, 2002

Embedded midi files
submitted by abckids
Thursday November 28th, 2002 08:57:22 PM

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1.1 and earlier used noaudio.dll to play embedded midi files. 1.2 won't - it requires yamaha or something else. Is this progress?
Re: Embedded midi files by abckids Thu, Nov 28, 2002

I18n fonts screwed
submitted by rdebay (user profile)
Friday November 29th, 2002 01:45:12 AM

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When I do a google search and specify Japanese as the language, sometimes I get a page of results with ridiculously small fonts. Other times I don't, but when I browse to the found page, I get the small fonts. Of course, this only happens when I'm NOT trying to demonstrate it, so I haven't been able to come up with a test case. BTW, I haven't been able to install any Japanese fonts, so this isn't related to the actual fonts, but to the handling of them (if they were there :-). I checked the page source every time, and the style sheets and the HTML wasn't bad enough to cause these problems. Has anyone else had this problem? I didn't see it with 1.2b, and I often visted Japanese sites and used Altavista to translate without a problem (once it happens, it keeps happening with the translated pages until you backup past the point where it first happened).
ObLink: www.morikami.org (if they ever fix their site)

where is Mozilla 1.2.1 bugfix?
submitted by ndebord (user profile)
Friday November 29th, 2002 11:50:29 PM

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?
Re: where is Mozilla 1.2.1 bugfix? by macpeep Sat, Nov 30, 2002

Mail Composition - html tags in status bar
submitted by leonya
Monday December 2nd, 2002 01:40:14 PM

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I just noticed that when composing an email, in the status bar there are html tags that can be selected (usually just a <body> tag), as they do in the Composer. Is this new in 1.2? However, these don't work well - they don't update. I found that a way to force update the display of these tags is to reselect an item from the Paragraph Format pulldown, such as "Body Text"... Anyone know of any bugzilla bugs on this? Thank you.

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