April 05, 2004

Outlaw Laws, That'll Show 'Em

Somebody's chain-smoking grandmother wrote this article, which I suppose I would be angry over if it had any chance of becoming law. You've probably seen it around - Kaye Grogan, who appears to be one of a legion of conservative pundits who managed to gain some sort of perch while having no grasp of facts, reality, or basic communicative skils, wrote an article proclaiming that it needs to be a felony to launch an "unfounded accusation" against a president. Now, given that we already have libel and slander laws, and the proposal is blatantly unconstitutional, and that it would turn all of politics into a debate between Zell Miller and himself...it's still pretty goddamned stupid.

There needs to be a law passed where any person who disrespects the "Office of the Presidency" by making false accusations and spreading deliberate rumors about the president, should be charged with a felony or at the very least a high misdemeanor.

Yeah, because Lord knows a statute like that would never, ever be used to shut off criticism of a president. Ever. Would there be Commission of Presidential Falsehoods set up to adjudicate all of these responses? Would I be able to turn in my neighbor for telling me that Bush's economic plan lost 3 million jobs, which is false, since it's only around 2 million now?

GULAG!

President Bush has been falsely accused (with nothing concrete to back the accusations up), from being negligent in stopping the 9/11 attacks, to making up fraudulent reasons to go to war in Iraq.

Oh, so now I get it...you can just ignore whatever anyone else says, and let partisans enforce the law. My favorite chain-smoking grandmother (of the day, there's just so many) has a good point. In the course of history, has criminializing political speech that goes against the current ruler ever limited freedom?

Not that I care to bring up and imperil my position in His Republican Highness' Reign.

All of the accusations against President Bush are of an offensive nature and so far, just vicious attacks for political gains.

Sadly, this isn't exactly limited to the political movement of Alan "The Human Fringe" Keyes, the idea that criticizing Bush is offensive. And of course criticism of Bush is political - he's a goddamn politician.

But what these political ant-Bush embattled Democratic political warriors can't seem to grasp. . . most people are now onto their destructive strategies, and have about had it with their whining and non-leadership approach.

So speaketh the First Rider of the Populist Armageddon of Keyes, riding upon a crescent wave of righteousness and knowledge of electoral patterns so instinctive that she's not afraid to contradict every available poll for no discernible purpose.

The Democrats would be wise to change the leaders working behind the scenes, because they are hindering their advancement, rather than helping their party.

Oh, my God. How awesome is it when an uber-partisan, factually bereft commentator starts giving the opposition party unsolicited advice? I mean, thankfully, it's rare, so its novelty and usufruct never wear off, but it's just so exciting, this honest and open exchange of ideas!

I also love scraping my eyeballs with shards of broken glass!

Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe should have taken his marbles and went home a long time ago. He doesn't know how to play fair. Not to mention, he's the one who started and fueled the AWOL rumor about President Bush concerning his tenure in the National Guard. McAulliffe should have been held accountable for starting this malicious rumor.

Yeah! Terry McAullife is just unfair! Let's outlaw unfairness! NOW, you magnificent bastards. This can't wait. Me and Rob Reiner and that guy from South Park with the curly hair are going to transcend our political differences, march on Washington, and demand that our criticism of George Bush be submitted to Official Censor Kaye Grogan between smoke breaks.

(And McAullife in no way started the AWOL accusation - at least have the honesty to slur the right guy who didn't start the AWOL accusation: Michael Moore. Christ.)

Raising taxes have about run their course, and as someone brought out. . . pro-life Democrats are dwindling away. They are dwindling away about like an ice cube in 600 degree temperatures in Hades.

Lesson number one from this piece: distracted writing is dangerous. This bit really sounds like she was right in the middle of the last episode of 7th Heaven, trying to figure out how those brilliant writers could extend the same plotline with minor and contrived changes to eight different characters at the same time. So taxing, so exhausting is this, that you're left with ellipses that don't signify a calculated pause, but instead you forgetting what the hell the end of that sentence was supposed to be.

And "about like an ice cube in 600 degree temperatures in Hades"? First, specifiying the exact temperature in hell is sort of redundant. It's hot. We get it. The hotness of it is not made any more impressive or real by saying just how hot it is.

How hot is Hell? Hot enough to be a standard of hotness. Therefore, you add nothing when you further describe its hotness except to diminish the impact of how hot it is. That's dumber than a dumbass with a 35 IQ.

Since the biggest majority of Americans are pro-life, this is and should be a disastrous platform for Democrats. Won't they ever learn? Apparently not.

I won't mention that you can't have a "biggest majority" unless you're comparing majorities between issues, and even then, there are much larger majorities on other issues, depending on the issue asked. I won't mention it at all.

I will, however, mention that her polling results seem to be from the same firm as her poll results on American trust of Democrats, given that the "biggest majorities" of Americans seem to approve of at least some form of abortion rights. She should really look into their methodology, which seems to be making up shit in moments not reserved looking for the exact print to clash with the American flag.

The majority of the American people do not want leaders who cater to big businesses and special interest groups.

Okay...this is the first time she's actually taken a step back and not advocated a dictatorship, a fantasy world, or a torrid sexual fantasy involving Alan Keyes, an argyle sweater, and a broken elevator. (Sorry, folks, that one's in the subscriber's version.) Let's see what she has to say about this.

Since many politicians seem to be making a career out of politics, term limits should be introduced on a national referendum and let the voters decide how long a term in congress should last.

Well, we seem to have completely distanced ourselves from the original point entirely...

I don't support this, largely because I don't think that legislative positions should be term-limited. There's simply too much difference between a legislative position and an executive one, and the power that one wields, for the former to be subjected to term limits like the latter.

(Yes, we will get back to mocking the craziness in a bit. But it's only fair to treat her ideas with the respect they deserve, and that goes for the merely bad ones alongside the crazy ones.)

Politicians have a difficult time policing their own selves. Many get accustomed to their political ties and influence in Washington and become too astute to suit the mainstream and conservative population.

I mess up words sometimes, and I'll gladly correct them. And I'll do the same thing when I notice other people's usage errors.

Now, personally, I want an astute politician in office representing me and my community's interests. I want someone shrewd and perspicacious. Astute, if anyone was wondering, means clever and capable. Yes, let's fill Washington with people who aren't that good at their job. That would solve all our problems.

Damn this astuteness proliferation. Next to WMDs, it's the thing most damaging to our national security.

Six to eight years is plenty of time for congressional members to serve in congress. If one has not made a positive impression or contributed in an advantageous way by then, they are not likely to.

Actually, considering how hard it can be for rookie and sophomore representatives, in particular, to get anything pushed through, and the learning curve that comes with being a first-term senator...I like Snickers bars.

Oh, sorry - I got Groganated for a second there. Legislatures are communities. So are executive offices, but they're much more determined by the executive and their surrounding people, and can be reformed to suit each successive executive. Legislatures don't work like that.

Don't worry, this brief lapse into wrongheaded sanity is over...now.

When a 17 year old expresses the desire to kill the president and his family and blow up the White House in an email, this shows an unsettling trend that seems to be engulfing our society. Teaching political hatred seems to be gaining ground and should not be tolerated.

Damn skippy! Although who do we blame for something like this, where a death threat is tossed off casually just to gain fame?

But when young pliant teens see people such as Senator John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and Richard Clarke, etc., administering dishonorable and ambidextrous motivational charges against the president, trying to make political headway and galvanize or provoke ant-Bush hatred, this is not healthy, and it could present a national security problem and could put the life of the president in jeopardy and great danger.

Now what, you may ask, the fuck did that have to do with term limits? Not shit, I may answer.

On to the main event, however. We have to outlaw criticism of the president (well, "false" criticism, but isn't it all false) because it might turn the teenagers of America into killing machines.

Yes, this woman is a professional writer. Yes, she accused Kerry, Kennedy and Clarke of making "motivational charges" against the president. No, I don't know why that's a bad thing - "George W. Bush, ladies and gentlemen, has it within him to eat 10 hot dogs in a minute. Yes, I said it." And yes, this will all lead to a nation of high schoolers putting "plotting to kill the president" on their college applications unless we stop them from falsely motivating the president - particularly if that motivation is ambidextrous.

To save our nation, George W. Bush must not be encouraged to work on his baseball swing. And he must certainly not be encouraged to become a switch-hitter. Or else the very fabrical of our nation is at steak...my foot hurts.

Posted by Jesse Taylor at April 5, 2004 10:41 PM | TrackBack
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Imagine what that would have done to the Vince Foster rumors or the Whitewa ... uh, I suppose that is not what she means, is it? This is meant to protect Chimpy from unpleasant innuendo, yes?

Well, it's garbage and belongs on the curb in a black plastic bag.

Scorpio

Eccentricity

Posted by: Scorpio at April 5, 2004 10:47 PM

This is like one of those Ed Anger columns in "Weekly World News," but better because she looks like she escaped from a John Waters film.

Posted by: jse at April 5, 2004 10:50 PM

That's the best thing I've read in a long time. I'm glad somebody is feeling threatened by the Dems.

Also:
"But when young pliant teens see people such as Senator John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and Richard Clarke, etc., administering dishonorable and ambidextrous motivational charges against the president, trying to make political headway and galvanize or provoke"

dishonorable ambidextrous provocators? young pliant teens? damn, i need to watch more c-span!

Posted by: avi at April 5, 2004 10:56 PM

It takes all of about a second to wonder how many Rethugs will volunteer to be prosecuted under such a law for their offenses against Clinton. Oh, and the nonsense about Political disagreement putting W's life at risk, what about the GOPers who threatend Clinton's life? I mean, ACTUALLY threatened his life, not just questioned whatever happened to thos WMD's/

Posted by: BStu at April 5, 2004 11:05 PM

Aside from the stupidity of her arguments, this is just a horribly written article. If she got paid to write it, as she probably did, it just proves that the world makes no sense. Man, I should get myself a job as a right-wing hack columnist. Then again, I think I would have to work HARD to produce something that awful.

Posted by: John at April 5, 2004 11:09 PM

Hold on, let me get this straight. Somebody actually paid for this article (which would probably get a C- at best in a Composition class due to its lazy research, labored analogies, misused words, numerous and bizarre diversions, and generally poor writing), while I write for free on a blog no one reads?

Not fair, dammit!

(Seriously, what does "ambidextrous motivational charge" even mean? Can someone explain that?)

Posted by: Discordia at April 5, 2004 11:23 PM

OK. I think I've figured out what's going on here. Click on the link and take a look at her picture. IT'S TRACY ULLMAN! Obviously, HBO's bringing her back for a new season. "Tracy Takes On...Wingnuts!"

Posted by: Plus Distance at April 5, 2004 11:33 PM

If I remember my mythology (and my Manual of the Planes) correctly, Hades is damp and dank, not hot, oh, and almost everybody ends up there, so I guess we'll all get to find out, except for Clinton, who'll likely end up as Zeus' protege.
Also, what the the fruc is "usufruct?" That's a new one on me.

Posted by: No-Pants Man at April 5, 2004 11:47 PM

All I know is that my ant-Bush hatred is out of control. Can't, can't can't stand them ant-Bushes.

Grr, grr.

Posted by: Aron at April 5, 2004 11:55 PM

Haven't we already HAD laws like that? John Adams? The Alien and Sedition Acts? Anyone?

I seem to recall there being a problem with that....

And I don't think this is her best work, the "Abortion is a blight on the country" piece has even less of anything approaching an "argument" or "facts" or even a "cohesive point"

Posted by: Reagan at April 6, 2004 12:01 AM

She's like a four-year old kid who uses big words when she really has no idea what they mean.

Posted by: Chris at April 6, 2004 12:16 AM

come on. Everybody knows that the temperature in the hereafter is always measured in Kelvin.

what sort of amateur is this?

Posted by: emcee fleshy at April 6, 2004 12:29 AM

That chick is hot... and patriotic. Check out that fflag. And the sexy helmet of hair. Mmmmm.

Posted by: Pheo at April 6, 2004 12:31 AM

Why oh why did you spend time tearing that apart? Completely unnecessary; it stands on its own.

I think I've seen her writing in some of our local papers (Manassas/Dulles area), though I remember them as having a male name by-line. The link you gave has a link to more of her writing, and I'm looking forward with glee to reading it.

Posted by: Bob Munck at April 6, 2004 12:49 AM

"Also, what the the fruc is "usufruct?" That's a new one on me. "

Usufruct is when you can use someone else's property and benefit from that use as long as you don't damage it.

About the only RL example I can think of is when my family told a friend he could put his bee hives near our fields. He kept all the honey and made a profit off of it (as this was his primary source of income). My grandmother got the odd jar of honey once and a while, but besides that, we derived no profit from his activities. The only strictures we put on him was that he put the hives in specified areas so they didn't interfere with our activities and that he didn't use his big truck to visit the hives because it tore up the access road.

Another example may be the tradition that you can march across someone's field in the UK as long as you don't knock-over their fences, trample their crops, or let their animals out.

Posted by: Phalamir at April 6, 2004 12:52 AM

And in this case, using the idea exactly as is, without changing it.

One of my favorite geek jokes is the polite way of asking a girl's father if you could take her out - "May I have the usufruct of your daughter tonight?"

Posted by: jesse at April 6, 2004 12:57 AM

"...I like Snickers."

bwaahahahaha...

:-)


Posted by: Tuna at April 6, 2004 01:24 AM

Too bad she didn't advocate a law against slandering her....because she's a straight up ho-bag.

(check out brooks trying to be clever and funny. maybe he's hoping for a gig on comedy central. If that doesn't work out - seeing how the columnist thing ain't - maybe he could start singing on american idol. he can spaz out and get his next 15 minutes.)

Posted by: no name comic at April 6, 2004 01:25 AM

She should take a look at her own unfounded accusations:

Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe should have taken his marbles and went home a long time ago. He doesn't know how to play fair. Not to mention, he's the one who started and fueled the AWOL rumor about President Bush concerning his tenure in the National Guard. McAulliffe should have been held accountable for starting this malicious rumor.

Uh, I think it was a little-known paper called the Boston Globe who started that "malicious rumor".

Posted by: platosearwax at April 6, 2004 03:13 AM

Oh fuck, Jesse: turn all of politics into a debate between Zell Miller and himself. LOL.

If this law passed, we would be so screwed. You and Ezra would get shut down if you didn't back off on the ambidextrous motivational charge related program activities.

And then what would we read?

Posted by: tripsarecopsem at April 6, 2004 06:42 AM

And Pheo: She is not hot. (OK, effort points for the leopard polyester. But still.)

I'll tell you who's hot. Betty Bowers is hot.

Posted by: tripsarecopsem at April 6, 2004 06:51 AM

Some years ago a poll was taken in which Americans were asked what they thought of various proposals for US laws. One of them was freedom of speech, but they didn't call it that, they just read the amendment without identifying it as such.

62% were against it.

Too many ignorant bumpkins running around fouling the waters of discourse. Not that they shouldn't be allowed to vote or anything, but it would be nice to educamate them. Granny needs a civics lesson.

Clearly Granny would never dare to suck a sleeve.

Posted by: dean at April 6, 2004 08:55 AM

It seems to me it would just be easier for her to advocate having Bush declared dictator-for-life, because anti-sedition laws could be turned on Matt Drudge when he knowingly spreads false rumors about President Kerry's sex life next year.

Posted by: Amanda at April 6, 2004 09:37 AM

My oven goes up to 500 degrees. So is my oven an almost-Hades?

And I'm still snickering over "Groganated." Damn fine.

Posted by: Uncle Mike at April 6, 2004 10:01 AM

There needs to be a law passed where any person who disrespects the "Office of the Presidency" by making false accusations and spreading deliberate rumors about the president, should be charged with a felony or at the very least a high misdemeanor.

I stopped reading here. Your comment "pretty ... stupid" summed it up. Nothing more to say. Why fisk anything this dumb?

Posted by: IB Bill at April 6, 2004 10:09 AM

"Her hobbies include photography and she has won photo contests all over the world."

Her hobbies also include run-on sentences, apparently.

Posted by: DrFrankLives at April 6, 2004 10:22 AM

Well, that just does it. Are now we justified in calling Shrubbie: George "Mobutu" Bush?

Posted by: Satan luvvs Repugs at April 6, 2004 10:38 AM

As long as we're gutting the constitution, why not get rid of the prohibition on criminalizing past behavior? If the statute of limitations on this one runs back to 1993 I'm just fine with it.

Posted by: paul at April 6, 2004 10:40 AM

Ever see that movie "Them?"

The sequel is coming soon - "Return of the Ant-Bushes."

Posted by: wvmcl at April 6, 2004 10:46 AM

Fish. Barrel. Gun. Hilarity ensues. That's the funniest thing I've read since...mmm, Snickers.

Posted by: Tom Hilton at April 6, 2004 10:56 AM

I'm going to buck the trend here. Let's do it! Let's make it a law to unreasonably spread falsehoods against the President.

Here are the benefits of that law, in order for someone to be charged with it, they'd have to PROVE that the allegations were false! Could you imagine the fun we could have litigating whether George was, in fact, present in Alabama? George testifying under oath that he didn't use cocaine at ANY time in his past.

The more likely outcome is that NO ONE would EVER be charged under such a law.

Posted by: Greg G at April 6, 2004 10:57 AM

"And McAullife in no way started the AWOL accusation - at least have the honesty to slur the right guy who didn't start the AWOL accusation: Michael Moore."

Actually, the guy who started the AWOL accusation was George W. Bush, when you come right down to it.

Posted by: rea at April 6, 2004 11:05 AM

I always wondered what a photo of crazy would look like.

Maybe the GOP will pick her up as a speechwriter. We could look forward to speeches that consist of proving merit (or guilt, or evilness, or cheerleading ability, or whatever the day calls for) by patting their heads and rubbing their tummies...AT THE SAME TIME!!!

Posted by: delrandall at April 6, 2004 11:31 AM

Oh my. If I had read this w/out knowing who wrote it, I would have guessed a sheltered 10th grader from a small town in Tennessee, whose high school has phased out composition instruction.

Posted by: incroyable at April 6, 2004 11:51 AM

Admit it, Jesse. You're crushing on Kaye. That chick is HOT!

On another note: here's another classic op-ed that she wrote.

It has been a "blessing" during the Iraqi war-that the congressional "spinners" have laid low and not graced the airways with their "timeless" rhetoric. But as soon as the war is officially over-they will come out of the woodwork in droves-to once again, try to "brainwash" the Americans into believing that they are the "Saviors" of the world. Overcoming the "immense" popularity of President Bush is certainly going to be more than an uphill battle for the Democrats. The president's high approval ratings have stayed steady as a rock and so far--immovable.
Posted by: Sullivan at April 6, 2004 12:32 PM

Damn, someone already beat me to the point about proof. I'd love to get sued or arrested for pointing out the Commander-in-thief's faults, foibles and snort-comings (coke pun intended).

But what I also wonder is what happens when someone is charged and is found innocent? Does it then become a matter of record that the "slander" was in fact, fact? What happens then? If this is true, then the proper method of attacking the president's "character" would be to say, "George W. Bush should be impeached because ...." Then when the "...." part is proven, impeachment proceedings would automatically start.

Sounds good to me!

Ed

Posted by: Ed Drone at April 6, 2004 05:15 PM

Another example may be the tradition that you can march across someone's field in the UK as long as you don't knock-over their fences, trample their crops, or let their animals out.

sounds more like an easement to me. could even be a license. not a usufruct.

Posted by: emcee fleshy at April 7, 2004 01:51 PM
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