This is proof of the maxim that stereotypes often have some basis in reality. A stereotype about republicans in this instance. Looks like someone went to central casting and asked for six old crackers, stat!

you ina heapa trouble, boy

Do you know what the racial epitaph of "cracker" means? It isn't refering to the snack-food, it is refering to the whip-cracker.

More white people in america were slaves than were slave owners, when you claim that being white makes you a cracker, you are forgetting the suffering of slaves.

I realize that you didn't mean any of that, and were making a playful joke, but it was in the same sort of humor as a minstrel show. It is still okay to be a racist against a white man, and that is why the most common victim of hate crime is white.

If it is poorness and underrepresentation that leads you to pity other races, then pity the porrness and underrepresentation, not the race itself. Race indicates nothing, not even heritage.

sorry. I don't get it.

I don't either

eric

i dont get it

You don't get *what?*

That the CCC is a clan of hatemongers?

Jesus. If this is what my weekend readership looks like, I may as well pack up and call it quits on the blogging thing.

How many "In Defense of Racism" essays do they need to post on their website to convince you they're idiots? How many more obsessive tomes on "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion?"

Or is it that you don't have a problem with the whole white power thing?

I don't get it because I have no idea what the Council of Conservative Citizens "Black Hawk Barbecue and Political Rally" is. Sorry.

I don't get it because the ccc may be all those things but all I see is a picture of 6 old white guys who look like they just got off the golf course.

its unfortunate but old white guys hang out with old white guys. doesn't necessarily mean they are clueless. If there is another picture of these guys burning a cross, or a essay they wrote advocating burning a cross, post that. Otherwise, I'm not going to assume people I've never heard of or an organization I've never heard of is racist because 6 old white guys got their picture taken together.

For those that don't understand (as I didn't at first) just Google "Council of Conservative Citizens" and start perusing what they stand for.

Now it makes sense.

makes more sense now. And you are right.

Still, I don't feel that badily about not being up on all the racist groups out there.

Damn... sorry I don't measure up to your readership standards because I didn't know about the CCC.. and I read every day not just weekends.. Don't quit blogging because of me though. Perhaps you should pre-qualify your readers. Do I need to send copies of my degrees? Perhaps a resume?

eric

You know, if the CCC is a racist org, then they will all burn in hell. If the CCC is both a bigot club and the sole sponsor of the event, then the entire nation would be aflame with rage at the behaivior of those politicians. Sorry, but there were stalinists sponsoring anti-war events, that doesnt make Dean a stalinist. There may have been some fund raising by a bigot club at a huge BBQ, that doesnt make everyone there a bigot. You have failed to include much detail, and I think that is telling. Perhaps you are merely an amateur, but it is most obvious that everyone who said "so what" said so becuase the meaning was completely unclear.

and your tolerance for reverse racism is even more telling.

Radley

you hypocrite!

If Haley Barbour was on TV making racist comments about black athletes and got fired for it you would be bitching and crying about it on this weblog. Yet, now you are bitching about him going to this red-neck bar BQ/raley and complaining how these are racists that are influencing politics.
I dont get it.

In fact, in reference to him attending this event, I say "SO WHAT?"
He is a white ah...right wing southern politician.
What the fuck would you expect?

Interesting

"The Black Hawk Barbecue is sponsored by the Council of Conservative Citizens to raise money for private academy school buses"

From what I have seen, "private academy" is usually a euphemism for private white-only schools.

Radley,

Thanks for posting the updates. Those unfamiliar with the CCC are now better informed, which is the whole point. This is why I love the "comments" feature so much, because it allows us to discuss and ask questions.

Barbour said in a foxnews story on Friday that he won't ask them to take his picture down:

Barbour, 55, said some views on the St. Louis-based group's Web site are "indefensible," but he does not want to tell any group it cannot use his picture or statements.

"Once you get into that, you spend your time doing nothing else," Barbour said Thursday. "I don't care who has my picture. My picture's in the public domain. It gets published in newspapers every day."

Radley,

Thanks for that. After spending (wasting?) the morning surfing the CCC (KKK?) site I have to say I have not been so entertained and appaled in a very long time.

These are the kind of people whose affinity with the Republican Party and the Conservative movement lead those on the left to suspect those on the right of closet intollerance, hatred, bigotry, and a collection of tin-foil hats.....

And I LOVED the articles over there against women and on the Protocals... nutzoids!

HEY RADLEY JUST BECAUSE THESE FOLKS HAVE IDEAS THAT YOU DONT AGREE WITH DOES THIS MAKE THEM WRONG.I LIVE IN THE GREAT STATE OF MISSISSIPPI AND I HOPE HE WINS.COME LIVE WITH US AWHILE AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND.

Radley,

A belated thank you for the updates. I was rather confused on Friday, and didn't have the time to follow up.

That's interesting. Thanks.

This is also interesting:

http://www.wdam.com/Global/story.asp?S=1475356&nav;=1Pw1IR0d

absolutely chilling. What frightens me the most are the comments on this section saying so what or defending their right to these ideas. Unfortunately, with the success of FoxNews and the rise of conservatism in the US, more views like this are becoming more acceptable to our society.
If you ever watch SouthPark, there is a great line by Big Gay Al, "look its the oppressors, Christians, Republicans, and Nazi's!" Let's face it people, the CCC(KKK), some republicans and christians are promoting hate and selling it as patriotism. Hitler did the same thing.

so how is it that some democrats and groups with which they associate can hold vulgar and disgusting ideas, but the whole group isn't considered as such? at least not to the extent that republicans are.

Bryan-

"Let's face it people, the CCC(KKK), some republicans and christians are promoting hate and selling it as patriotism. Hitler did the same thing."

Be careful not to go too far with this. In my experience, Left, Right, Green, and Libertarian all have fringe individuals that promote hate. The point is, these fringe people really do have the right to have their own beliefs. It doesn't mean, however, that you or I have to believe it.

True, some Republicans and Christians promote hate. So do some Democrats and Muslims, as well as some Greens and athiests. Pick any group, and you will find some goofball fringe that hates for no legitimate reason.

The CCC, KKK, and Nazis in general are all fringe groups of one kind or another - not necessarily equivalent, but fringe, nonetheless.

Christians, Republicans, and Fox News are not fringe groups. They may be right-of-center, but that doesn't make them advocates of hate.

I, as a Republican, am (not coincidentally) friends with many other Republicans with a few liberal-types thrown in for balance. None of them are hate-mongers. If they were, they wouldn't be friends of mine.

Hate is something common to the fringes of ALL political and social ideologies. Whether or not a particular fringe group's values are actually "hateful" depends entirely on perspective.

Roger,

Point well taken. However, please note that I said "some" not the entire group. I am careful not to engage in intentional swiping of entire groups.

My point is that the hate on the right is reaching a wider audience and becoming more acceptable in the form of patriotism than it would have in the past. The hate from left is practically laughed right off stage.

To digress a little, my wife is Indian. After 9/11, in the USA, we had complete random people stop their cars or whatever their doing just to call her a terrorist or to go back home. As many know, most Indians are Hindu, as is my wife and have been fighting Muslims in Pakistan for years. As a group in the US they are very frustrated by the treatment they are receiving. However, go figure, there is Indian Republican right now who may be Governor of Mississippi. When I was in India after 9/11 I received a very warm welcome but as I approached Kashmir, being a white american, I did not receive such a warm welcome and received some of the same treatment my wife received in the US, except this time it was me. I was called warmonger and other interesting things. My point after all this, Osama's 9/11 mission accomplished its goal. The West hates the Muslim world and it has become acceptable and the MODERATE Muslim world now hates the USA as well. Osama has masterminded this whole scenario and I feel Bush played into his hands. We now have a "Clash of Civilizations" and for those who are interested I would recommend reading Samuel Huntington's book with this title. He wrote a few years back, prior to 9/11. I am begining to think Osama read it as well.

Bryan -

For what it's worth, I wasn't actually trying to imply that you felt that ALL Republicans and Christians promote hate. You were quite clear on that. I was just trying to point out that, while those groups do indeed have individuals who are quite hateful, other, non-conservative groups do as well. Maybe it's just that I get a little uneasy when only right-leaning groups are mentioned in the same paragraph as Hitler.

We seem to agree, for the most part, but I'm not too sure about the hate from the "left" being practically laughed off the stage.

Some on the "right" could probably be correctly identified as packaging hate as patriotism, but the primary hate from the left I see is a widespread hate for the wealthy. The reason their class-warfare hasn't been laughed off the stage is that they've convinced people that it isn't really hate. That is the type of thing to which I was referring when I mentioned that hate is largely a matter of perspective.

With your personal post-9/11 experiences, however, I certainly take no issue. You may very well be right that Osama accomplished his goal, but the hate from even "moderate" Muslims may not have really increased post-9/11, but rather just became more obvious to us due to the constant coverage.

Chris Lawrence, a Mississippi blogger, gives some useful info on this whole flap.