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This was also exactly the sort of stupid-ass fib about inconsequential shit that somehow resulted in Gore being portrayed as a pathological liar in 2000.

I didn't think anyone past the age of five still ate cheez-whiz.

Anyways, this whole story is just fucking ridiculous. Most people who didn't grow up in Pennsylvania or the immediate Northeast wouldn't know what the classic cheesesteak is. It's such a stupid measure of how "with the common people" someone is. I guarantee half the people from rural Kansas wouldn't know exactly what's on a classic cheesesteak either.

Until a cheesesteak is the actual president, I fail to see the relevance.

Man, I wish people would quit flogging this story. I had planned to have a healthy lunch. Now I'm craving an artery-plug of a cheesesteak.

"It ought to be obvious to you; I like my cheese steak Whiz with."

Is that a typo or more dumbfuckery from the C-in-C?

Gozer, I was wondering that too, but click on the link to Matt Yglesias' post at TAPPED for an explanation. It's some sort of special cheese-steak code.

Gozer, that's actually a PA regionalism.

Example:
"I'm going to the store?"
"Really? Mind if I come with?"

By that measure, they would say "Mind if I come you with?"

What if it was Cambodian cheese? Then I don't know what to think. Somebody tell me!!

It's the shorthand for ordering cheesesteaks at Pat's. 'With' = with fried onions. If you want peppers, you say that before the cheese and onions, so a cheesesteak with cheese whiz, peppers and onions would be a 'pepper wiz with'. The whole thing is pure dumbfuckery and a lie on top of that, but the language is accurate.

The guys at Pat's have a reputation for kicking people out of line for ordering improperly, but they rarely do that. If you stand in line for 15 minutes on a Saturday night and then walk up and say something like 'Do you have cheese whiz', you will be asked to step aside.

I'm a Philadelphian.

"Whiz Wit" (note, no terminal "h") means you want your steak with Cheez Whiz AND fried onions. At the touristy cheesesteakeries (Pat's & Geno's & Jim's), you will be ridiculed unless you use this system of ordering. You say the kind of cheese you want first, then it's either wit or witout onions. Cheez Whiz on a cheesesteak isn't as bad as it sounds, but most people I know seem to prefer provolone (which, along with American, is a standard option) and sometimes mushrooms or peppers.

The President is a douche.

I don't know which is worse. The fact that Bush felt the need to drag this idiotic attack on Kerry back up or the fact that he had to lie to do it.

I was gonna say. 'Cause out here in the Midwest, provolone or American seems to be the primary stuff you get on a cheesesteak--never cheese whiz. That's nothing against the people of Philly--after all, they patented the thing--it's just to say that if I flew in, there's a good chance I'd order my cheesesteak with provolone--and while I am sorta French (my mom's maiden name was Parriott, but we were from Alsace-Lorraine! Which used to be German! I swear to God, I ain't no Frenchie!), I never went to prep school.

Embrace your Frenchness, order that mofo with some Reblochon!

Ordering a cheese steak with Reblochon is likely to get you a cheese steak with some sort of hand cream for psoriasis (or whatever ointment they put on grill burns).

As a Philadelphian who loves his cheesesteaks with Whiz, can I just say what a wad Bush is? Anyone this sways shouldn't be allowed to vote.

I'd be proud to wiz on the C-in-C's filly. Then, I'd take a wiz on him too. If that's the way he likes it, I know a few web sites where he can get his rocks off.