Wednesday, August 25, 2004

Michelle Malkin and Eric Muller Live

Eric Muller and Michelle Malkin debated on public radio today. All in all, there wasn’t much new substance to the debate beyond their online battles. Near as I can tell Muller won the debate, Malkin seems to continue to make the same errors of reasoning he has outlined before. In fact at times I was really struggling to see how her argument could be believed to really fit together.

After listening to her defense live, I’m kind of left wondering about her view on her own thesis. She never says that she doesn’t believe that internment was justified in her radio interview (and claims the opposite), but her repeated attempts to dodge the questions makes me wonder how much she really buys that. I’m puzzled as to whether she really wants to argue for internment or if she wants to argue that some measure of racial profiling was legitimate under the circumstances. Her book clearly makes the former claim, but she seems far more comfortable dealing with the latter.

Muller established three things he thinks her book would have to do to prove her thesis (and does not accomplish). I’d add a forth (before his fist):

0.5: Engage with the earlier arguments in good faith. Establish how they do deal, and would deal with the evidence you present as well as the additional kinds of evidence they have brought to bear on the question. Demonstrate the ways your interpretation of your evidence is better and either re-interpret, discredit, or disprove the continued relevance of their evidence. (note: ad-hominem attacks don’t count as accomplishing this goal).

Edit: I'm struggling for a phrase to capture her move away from defending internment, and dodge in retrospect seems a bit harsh. She simply moved away from vigorously saying she though internment was correct, to saying there was some "military justification." I'm just not quite sure what she means.

New Notes:
I really think the moment where she seemed the most trapped was when "evacuation" was being discussed and Muller jumped on her for calling it voluntary. I think parts of her argument rely on playing fast and loose with definitions, and Muller caught her in the act. She really couldn't defend herself, even by using some quick thinking specious reasoning. Internment was NOT voluntary. Eviction was NOT voluntary.

3 Comments:

Anonymous said...

Michael Benson: Your comment on the Malkin/Muller debate was interesting but rather uninformed and naive. Apparently you have only a superficial knowledge of the WWII relocation and the internment and don't understand the difference between the two. As a WWII veteran with a long memory and having done considerable research on the subject, I believe Ms.Malkin is light years ahead of Prof.Muller on the issue. Just because the man is a professor doesn't mean that he is intellecually superior to a distinguished investigative writer such as
Ms.Malkin, whose books are bound to outsell his by a large multiple. I also heard the radio debate and was not impressed with Muller's arguments. He and Prof.Robinson seem to be satisfied to scratch each other's backs and declare victory whereas they are merely subsituting their own obsessions and current social ideologies for the wartime realities of the past. Try to consider Ms.Malkin's book with an open mind after trying to set aside whatever brainwashing you may have been given about the WWII evacuation in the past. Cheers.

10:36 PM  
Eric said...

On the previous comment: Wow, a comment that is completely free of substantive content or logic--just an ad hom attack on the writer for being "naive." How sadly representative of the current manner of argument from the right side of the aisle...

11:34 PM  
Michael Benson said...

People actually read my article! Wooohooo! Thanks for the comments y'all. Now I'm off to the backroom for more brainwashing.

7:57 AM  

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