Okay, game on. Over the past months of watching way too many Republican and Democratic Presidential candidate debates, it's been much easier to live blog -- and MOCK -- the GOPers. I largely agree with the Democrats and nne of them has to be the next President.
We've been led to believe that tonight's debate could get interesting. Both John Edwards and Barack Obama have been talking tougher about Hillary Clinton. Let's see how it goes.
The debate is being broadcast live on MSNBC and will be re-broadcast on Telemundo.
9:00 PM: Here we go.
In the first questions posed to Obama and Edwards, they were given the chance to attack Clinton. Edwards did a much, much better job of defining his differences with Hillary. She was obviously prepared for the attack. Edwards focused on Iran, which Hillary did not address. She has a lot of "specific plans."
9:09 PM: Because Hillary didn't address Iran, Russert asked her why she voted for
Kyl-Lieberman's resolution. She prefers "vigorous diplomacy." (But isn't that what she said she voted for in 2002 on the Iraq resolution.)
Russert followed up on Iran with Dodd who said this issue is going to come back to haunt us and what we didn't learn in '02, we should have learned now. OUCH. He's right, of course.
Biden, on the Iran vote, said there are consequences for what we do. (Biden and Dodd voted against Kyl-Lieberman.) Biden said the vote emboldened Bush.
9:15 PM: Continuing on Iran, Obama responds on Iran and when he would go to war what Brian William calls "the red line"...a question Obama rejected noting the "drumbeat of war" is coming from the GOP debates.
Hillary Clinton also got asked the "red line" question. She sounds very, very defensive on the Iran question. That Kyl-Lieberman vote undermines much of what she's saying. She "wants to start diplomacy." (Again, we've heard that before from her.)
9:19 PM: Edwards said Kyl-Lieberman sounds like it was written by the neocons. Noting some of us learned from our mistakes on Iraq, you give Bush an inch, he takes a mile. That resolution enabled Bush and let him "march forward." He asks how is that Democrats standing up to Bush?
(Richardson finally gets a question at 9:20 P.M.)
9:25 PM: Russert asks them all if they can pledge that Iran will not get a nuclear bomb when they are President. Obama gave a great answer on how Americans have been governed by the politics of fear -- sounding very much like
Paul Krugman's excellent column yesterday, btw.) Both Biden and Dodd refocused the question and said that Pakistan poses a much bigger problem -- and both of them sound very, very competent on this issue. Kucinich took an appropriate swipe at the media -- telling them not to promote another war, which the media did in 2002. Very good point about not ratcheting up the rhetoric for war.
9:32 PM: Onto the issue of the pending war in Iraq. We learn that Hillary does in fact oppose the war in Iraq, but not the troops.
Obama says Hillary is not being consistent on Iraq, citing the Iran resolution. The next President can't be a co-author of the war.
Edwards wants to make certain that voters understand they have very clear choices...if you believe combat troops should stay in Iraq with no timetable, then Senator Clinton is your candidate. He wants to end combat missions. Edwards also goes back to Iran...smacks Hillary with her "if I only knew then what I know now..." He says Hillary has shifted from primary mode to general election mode..and candidates need to be consistent.
9:37 PM: Hillary fights back that she is for ending the war, but it's going to be complicated and it's going to take time. She's going to do it responsibly -- and she wants to fight al Qaeda in Iraq.
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