Great work. By all accounts, this is still a developing story. Saddly, we cannot trust our own law enforcement agencies. That appears to be true at all levels of the goverment. The truth in the end will come out. This country was not founded on a lie but the truth. I am positive that someone will speak up for Mr. Lemme so that his family can have closure. I know that I would want that for myself. God's speed to you Brad.

Keep at it, honey. People are being hurt and they need justice. Thank you.

great reporting, brad. my only question is, where does it go from here? it seems like all the people who now need to start answering some tough questions can easily continue to stonewall, especially when the story is for most part being investigated by a blogger (i.e. you).

maybe it's time to get "60 minutes" involved. i know they are "mainstream media" and as such, can be pretty whimpy, but i also know they tend to love these kind of stories.

i realize the tendency of bloggers to want to go it alone and protect their turf --- don't blame you there one bit. still, it may be time to at least talk to some big media (with big money), and see if they'd be willing to team up with you on this.

just my opinion.

the other option is to get a democratic senator involved. somebody with some clout --- and money --- has got to start getting to the bottom of these unanswered questions. that, to me, is the bottom line at this point.

Somebody has to explain how Lemme checked out of the motel at 6:54 a.m. on 6/30/03, signed a "suicide" note at 8:10 a.m. (no date given), then got back into the same motel in time to be found dead on 7/1/03, without checking back in.

Did he occupy the same room the second time? The check-out clerk should be shown a photo of Lemme and asked, "Is this the man who checked out at 6:54 on 6/30?" The signature on the slip does seem to match the note.

It sure looks as if Lemme's second visit to the motel came after he was dead. One possibility to explain the handwriting on the note is that he had been told, "Write this note or we'll kill your wife and daughter, too." If Lemme had realized he was dealing with desperate men, that would have been a way to protect them, even in death.

I agree completely with #3, you need some help with money and a big name media to push through the sludge you are sure to encounter. If you have that kind of help, perhaps the police will be more apt to really solve the case, even if they are pressured by outside influences, such as Feeney, Yang, etc. You're doing a super job Brad!

People depressed enough to kill themselves, don't

go to work early, or get excited about a case.

A person planning suicide is not involved in the

future, because they feel like there is no future.

#3,#5

It is my current understanding that this is the district of Cynthia McKinney ... or at least she is from Georgia and may be able to help.

Anyone from georgia out there who wants to contact her?

From what I have read on this site in the last several months, it seems to me that Brad has been trying to get big media interested in this case for a long time. So there's no need to be concerned about "a blogger trying to protect his turf." The thing to be concerned about, as far as I can tell, is that no big media source has enough courage to go where Brad is willing to go.

I would be surprised if any high-profile politician has enough courage either. But then again, if we make enough noise, we might be able to embolden some of them. It's worked once or twice before.... for that reason, I think we should all work as hard as possible to attract some serious attention to this story. Each in his or her own way, of course.

Got any pajamas? Got any beer? Ready, set, go!

Brad, you're doing us all proud. Please keep up the good work, and watch your back. And if you need a good proofer (the past tense of "to lead" is "led" not "lead" for example) I'll be happy to proof anything you feel might need proofing, which along with writing and translating is what I do for a living, gratis, just to get the first gander at the great stuff you dig up! Until such time, bra...

Here is a link to Shannon Floyd the new instructor at Valdosta College.

Nana #6

Very good point.

great story brad. i assume you have found this already, but didn't see it in the story or comments. shannon floyd is at valdosta technical college as a law enforcement instructor. the announcement can be found here (half-way down the page): www.valdostatech.edu/news/index.asp

Be careful Brad. These people hurt people.

It is my understanding that suicide is a selfish act by a severely depressed (hopeless) person and is often intended to hurt others. It is also my understanding that self-mutilation is a form of blaming and punishing one's self.

If true, and I cannot swear that it is, the suicide note does not seem to fit with the self-punishment style of death.

To start with, I'd bring in a handwriting expert on the signature thing, and submit samples of Lemme's handwriting to be compared with both the note and the signature. Yes, he might have written the note under duress and to protect his family. But, look at the way the word "family" is underlined - I can't say why, it just feels odd for some reason. Besides the underline, doesn't it seem he'd say something personal to his wife and daughter in the note? Just a hunch, and maybe I'm out in left field, but...

The problem is, if there are people in power keeping the case from being investigated, it would be hard to get anything done without hiring a private independent investigator, and they cost big bucks.

Unfortunately, that part of the Clint Curtis/Tom Feeney story may have to be investigated after the fact, meaning after all the other dominoes fall. Going at it from the other end may be the only way to solve the crime once and for all. With the photos on the 'net, at least it'll be harder to destroy that particular evidence.

Too bad Soros doesn't have a bone to pick with Feeney, that kinda financial backing could make a dent. Still, Feeney is bound to have made some enemies over the time of his career, maybe some of them will come forward before all is said and done. BTW, just out of curiosity, he's up for election again in 2006 isen't he? Who's running against him, any idea yet?

Good job Brad. Take care of yourself, you're bound to be making some bad people nervous.

Thank you for this valuable service you do by not letting this subject just go. We need to know the truth, and it has not yet been found. Keep going!

Yes, you've done a great job, but you're never going to get anyone in a position of power to touch this - the people behind it are more powerful and more rich and are very very interested in keeping the status quo. You can't look at the past decade in this country and not see the increase in a blatant pattern of lies, deception and murder by those in power - and those with lesser power often don't have the will to risk their own meal ticket- and those who do, the real truth seekers who still believe that we have a chance to change anything end up dead. If any democratic politician cared about the truth, the election would have been contested and the burden of proof placed on the GOP - which, we all know, never came close to happening.

Hey this is some kinda work Brad!! You ROCK...
Question...anyone know what happened to Lemme's work, his files and information that he said had linked all this Curtis info to the top? Is the wife in possession of his work, or did it evaporate into thin air??

I put NOTHING past the Bush regime...i don't doubt murder could be involved in regards to any power plays by Bush and Co. No doubts whatsoever...

You might also have a hard time getting to Shannon Floyd now - sounds like she may have already been warned not to speak with you or anyone else about the case.

Any chance of getting the GBI involved? I've found state agencies are more willing to help in some cases than local agencies, at least here in Tennessee. Of course, that may not hold true for someone in a position in the US House of Representives.

TO ALL INVESTIGATORS,
CONSIDER CREATEING A SUICIDE PASSWORD TO GIVE TO YOUR LAWYER.
Example,
I �������BEING OF SOUND MIND AND BODY ON THIS DAY ������� PROMISED TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING �SUICIDE PASSWORD� IN ANY AND ALL �SUICIDE NOTES OR MESSAGES� LEFT BY ME IN THE EVENT OF A SELF-INFLICTED INJURY OR DEATH.
I FURTHER STATE THAT IN THE AVENT OF MY DEATH BY ANY MEANS, BE TREATED AS SUSPIOUS AND AN AUTOPSY SHOULD BY PROFORMED IF THE ABOVE �SUICIDE PASSWORD� (OR PHRASE) IS NOT INCLUDED IN ANY ALLEGED �SUICIDE NOTE� ACCREDITED TO ME ON MY DEMISE.
SIGNED �����..
WITNESSED �������

I'm not a lawyer but surely something like this could let family and friends know that their loved one chose their course of action and their death was not the result of "external influence or pressure".
P.S. Was the vehicle impounded as there may be evidence relating to the possible tranport of Mr. Lemme (across a state line)?

:rolleyes:Just another pathetic liberal who couldn't deal with the fact that President Bush won the election fair and square.

The method used is highly unusual in males. The most prevalent method is gunshot, with hanging coming in after that. Slashing like that is quite rare.

And as the blood level got low wouldn't hallucination and self preservation mentality take over in a dream or semi-conscious or weakened mental state leading to movement from ... or within the bathtub in a primitive protective automatic system ... kinda like knee jerk.

He looked docile like no movement of any significance had taken place. That is strange.

A Freedom of Information Act request to the FDOT and the Valdosta Police might lead to the person in the FDOT who was talked to.

Also, the family should have credit card billing to show the dates the credit card company received the billing on checkin and checkout ...

There are some strange circumstances here and at the very least some inadequate investigation, but I'm not completely convinced of the receipts pointing to anything but wonky equipment. The price is the same which would inicate that check-in and checkout were the same day, not 3 days apart.

But Dredd, maybe he was "in touch" with his feminine side and that's why he chose the method of suicide that he did. He looked "docile" because he was probably reconciled to his death which is very common in suicidal people.

Good job Brad.

We're all behind you 100% here!

I think it may be time to notify Michael Moore (so we get everything on tape) and then show it in movie theaters across the country.

Heaven forbid the Mainstream Media should ever do anything about this.

Make it big Brad... that's the only way to keep the ball rolling, especially when the evil people think you are getting too close.

Like I said, though, we are all with you here.

MrBlueSky

Wonderful, selfless work, Brad. We're proud of you.

I'm glad that you are becoming more visible, with media interviews and all, because the more people that know about you and what you are doing, the safer you are. Poor Lemme wasn't a public figure - yet.

This is a headline link on Raw Story.

There is an incredible number of political murders going on starting with my friend an d honest to a fault, Sen Paul Wellstone.This was no accident.Just like John Kennedy Jr. and Mel Carnahan.Identical circumstances.We now have the greatest criminal organization ever running this country. Truth is the only possible way to save all of our butts.The NWO will spare no one that stands in it's way. The Zionist Jews now control everything in this country. The entire media,the entire government,the banking system. This may have to come to fghting fire with fire with millions of armed citizens.This is he one thing they fear most. GW Bush once said to departed reporter Sarah McClendon."If the people ever find out what we are doing, they will chase us down the street and lynch us.The emporer of Japan once commented I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant. WW 2. Lets wake up America. It doesn't have have to go this way.

Brad, Thank you for having the courage to report this stuff. I was blogging yesterday and a read a blog about Hunter S. and allegdly he told a friend that he was working on a big story about 911 and had some evidence that the World Trade Center was also bombed in that there were explosives in the building . He also said to the friend that he was affraid he would be "suicided" Brad check Sander Hicks interview with Daniel Hopsicker. Didnt't the first person to write about W's drug habit commit suicide.

It's not uncommon for chain motels to run the check in tickets (1st receipt) generally around "midnight' the day you check in ... and that date appears on the ticket. Its really odd they would run one at at 6:44PM the night of check in ... thats very, very early... unless they post arrival times?????

Generally speaking, they could issue both receipts at check in (arrival time) if you pay at the "same time". Then both receipts would be time stamped within a couple of minutes. However, 99% of the motels I stayed at wouldn't do that. Signing a master, Visia, AMX card receipt the morning of check out is standard practice.

What bothers me is the date and time differences. I have stayed at hundreds of motels and believe me I've tried on many occassions to have someone alter the day and/or time on those very same receipts without success. Even while the clerk has a crisp, new $20 bill waving back and forth in front of their face.

With "chain" motels, I believe Knights Inn's is one, the dates are controlled by corporate hqtrs computer on the check in ticket and the bank on credit card receipts. You can't change those dates or times and they are never wrong".

Nana #6 brought up a good point .... depressed people to not get up at 5:30 AM to check out of a motel.

Also, did he talk with his wife the night of check in (29th)???

Check when the motel runs the days "check in tickets" (1st. receipt). That 6:44PM time is very, very early.

Either he was DOA in a trunk at check in time.... or on a spur of the moment decision he met someone at the motel? Why was he there?

The only thing you know for certain is ...someone shows up twice at the motel front desk ... and if it was Ray .... then someone was waiting for him in the motel room after he checks out on the 30th???

Say, he was a military guy ... shouldn't the government have his fingerprints??? Would the fingerprints show up on the motel copy of the ticket and/or bank copy of the receipt?? What happened to his receipts?? Do the police have them checked for fingerprints??

I would think "60 Minutes" would love this investigation.

":rolleyes:Just another pathetic liberal who couldn't deal with the fact that President Bush won the election fair and square."

Pail Rider: some drunken snot bag who hangs over a pail all day because he is about to barf from mixing fru fru drinks and beer.

What makes you think he was a liberal, or even a democrat? Just because he wasn't a wannabe cop, president of his Lutheran church congregation, and wannabe cop and Republican, like BTK?

It does get pretty damn strange when you begin to look into the connections between this, Danny Casolaro, INSLAW, BCCI, Iran-Contra, The Christic Institute, and Gary Webb. Guess who is back in the government today. All the major players, some who were even convicted, in the Iran-Contra affair. I am a professional cynic and skeptic, and this stinks to lower than low hell.

You are a brave individual Brad! I admire you. Hang tough and that suicide password thing might not be a bad idea. I got here from www.rawstory.com. This story is spreading. si submitted this page to mm.

I've been hoping we'd hear meore on this case. The timing of a "suicide" makes no sense in his case, and I hope this will open more doors that need to be opened for Mr. Curtis' case.

Hey pail rider, even though your wife has infrequent ablutial urges, like you, I do her while you are at work, and she loves it the liberal meat.

DJ Nelson, that was Admiral Yamamoto who said that, not the Emperor, and he was shot down in a plane in an operation intended to kill him, but not necessary to make it look like an accident. So was Dag Hammerskjold. So it happens, but you are going off into LaRouchian tin foil hat land, bubba.

Shannon Floyd is teaching at Valdosta Technical College. See:

http://www.valdostatech.edu/news/index.asp

"Shannon Floyd New Law Instructor

Shannon Floyd joins the faculty of Valdosta Technical College as the Law Enforcement Instructor. She will teach in the new Criminal Justice program that began January 6, 2005.
She holds a Master of Public Administration degree and a Bachelor of Arts in Criminal Justice degree, both from Valdosta State University. Floyd taught as an adjunct professor in Criminal Justice for Valdosta State from 2003-2004. While at the university as a student, she worked for the VSU Department of Public Safety.
Her professional experience includes work with the City of Valdosta Police Department as a forensic specialist, firearm examiner, detective and crime scene technician as well as patrolman. She has also worked as a private investigator and held an internship with the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.
Floyd holds certifications as an Identification Technician, the Basic Peace Officer Certification, Identification of Marijuana by Microscope Certification and a Smith & Wesson Armorers Certification. She is the Membership Committee Chair for the South Georgia Chapter of the Police Benevolent Association of Georgia, Inc. and a member of the Peace Officers Association of Georgia. She published an article, �Why Education is Important� in the Georgia Troopers� News Journal in the Spring/Summer 1995 edition."

There's a picture of her on this page as well.

Thanks, Brad, for all of your great work on this issue! I agree that staying in the public eye might help keep you safe, but be careful!

Brad this is the first time I read about this and it is incredulous. Clearly there are some stark inconsistancies that probably indicate foul play. A ninth grade HS student could complete a better investigation than it appears the Valdosta Police Department are capable.

It saddens me to no end to see that local police men and woman will compromise themselves and succumb to political pressure and bury a probable murder case.

Could you post the names, addresses, emails and telephone numbers of any government officials and employees so I can contact them directly and encourage them to follow through on their investigation.

Thank you.

[quote]What makes you think he was a liberal, or even a democrat? Just because he wasn't a wannabe cop, president of his Lutheran church congregation, and wannabe cop and Republican, like BTK?[/quote]

I made the assumption because he was investigating a wild assed conspiracy about election fraud. Quite simular to the cries of "massive" numbers of voter intimidation in Florida that, somehow mysteriously DID NOT result in any court cases.....hmmmmm. Must've been because there wasn't any. Even the race baiting Jesse Jackson couldn't get any factual cases scraped up to form a civil suit.

The inconsistencies with the times and dates can not be explained away - check-ins, check outs, phone calls, witnesses, even his watch stopping (Was it a wind-up? Was there a REASON it was laying on the bathroom counter and just "stopped" at 12:54 on the 30th?) Didn't someone see Lemme at a payphone that morning?

Has anyone seen the phone records for the hotel (not just the room) and for Lemme's house and the company he worked for during that time period?

Busy with much here for the moment guys, so haven't gotten to read all comments yet.

But to quickly respond to Lewis who said in #3 above:

maybe it's time to get "60 minutes" involved. i know they are "mainstream media" and as such, can be pretty whimpy, but i also know they tend to love these kind of stories.

60 Minutes, and other major news organizations know about this story. I have no "turf" I'm interested in protecting here. In fact, before I released the original Curtis affidavit, I offered the entire story to a major newspaper and would have *much* preferred they ran with the story than I.

Since then, I have been contacted by scores of major media organizations, and have always told them I'm happy to help them in *any* way, and give them *everything* I've got.

I'd *love* to have anyone else take over the story...Until then, it seems I need to keep on reporting it.

Things may change soon though. We'll see...

First and foremost, I wish to extend my deepest sympaties to Mr. Lemme's family and loved ones. I cannot imagine how painful it must have been to experience such a tragic loss so suddenly and so unexpectedly --- no matter what the cause. Then to have these pictures splattered across the internet, along with complete strangers dissecting the "facts"...it just must be really unbearable. I am so sorry.

Brad, I respect your caution and your inner-struggle regarding the link you have posted to the crime scene photos. Because you waited to post the link, continued to investigate the "oddities" of the Valdosta police report; as well as attempt to penetrate Capt. Childress's non-stonewalling stonewalling of past and recent events; and because Mr. Lemmes untimely and unusual death DOES ultimately pertain to the Clint Curtis story; I can only conclude that you have done the right thing.

This whole thing smacks of tabloid journalism. Certainly not because of you, your work, or because of Clint Curtis, but because the whole convoluted mess reads like a B-grade movie. Unfortunately, this is no movie. It's real. And it's really sad.

I guess the one question that keeps swirling in my mind is this: If Mr. Lemme was purposefully targeted and killed, why then would the perpetrator(s) stop there? It seems to me, they would want to..um...take care of, shall we say?... Mr. Curtis as well.

Keep up the good work, Brad. You and Clint please stay safe.

Well, well, well, well, well. Looks like the heat is on.

Teresa Heinz Kerry just publically stated:

"COUNTING THE VOTES: Heinz Kerry is openly skeptical about results from November's election, particularly in sections of the country where optical scanners were used to record votes.

"Two brothers own 80 percent of the machines used in the United States," Heinz Kerry said. She identified both as "hard-right" Republicans. She argued that it is "very easy to hack into the mother machines."

"We in the United States are not a banana republic," added Heinz Kerry. She argued that Democrats should insist on "accountability and transparency" in how votes are tabulated.

"I fear for '06," she said. "I don't trust it the way it is right now."

the coming end

To Teresa Heinz (Note: Teresa is not using her husband's last name anymore. One can only assume that this is because she doesn't want to be associated with the loser.): Please provide some proof of your hair brained supposition.

re #42. She posted the link. What the heck else do you want?

You haven't posted any references to anything you have said, so what does that say about you? Troll.

In case Pale Rider missed it, Raymond Lemme was an Army Reservist.

He was also investigating the case as part of his *job* at the Florida State Inspector General's office.

You might want to check a few more facts in the case before jumping to conclusions which will likely make only *you* look silly.

As well, Clint Curtis was a lifelong Republican up until very recently. Just in case you missed that part as well.

Gee Brad, I haven't used a double-edged razor blade since I was a kid. Is the blade consistent with the shaving gear he used? Did he have additional blades with him?I don't think you can buy just one. How did he carry it with out cutting something or himself. And speaking of cuts.

He was righthanded, correct? and did his right hand have any cuts near the fingers that would have had to grip the blade? Not playing amatuer detective here, just curious and wonder why no one who investigated was. And another thing. Look at the organized way everything is laid out on the vanity top--Hardly the sign of a "distraught " man.( looks more like a valet did the job)
I question the following-the lack of any information that indicates a desire to die. He had help and any real police investigater would have looked for the obvious things that I have pointed out, and probabley a lot more. This is just another example of Southern hospitality in reverse

Take care Brad
Peter

one question:

What happened to Lemme's body?

Although there was clearly no autopsy, a number of people (including mortuary/funeral parlor employees) might remember if there was considerable bruising as there appears to be on Lemme's neck. (and, given his posture, this is not the kind of bruise that one would see as a result of post-mortem polling of blood at lower points of the body.)

Whenever right-wingers start to appear here, it means only one thing...they're nervous. Suddenly, we have a flood of "loser" messages again.

Thanks again, Brad. And thanks to you, Teresa. The genie is squirming inside the bottle.

Sorry to go back so long on string, but I just got a chance to read through these now. In reference to #28, DJ Nelson talks about a possible conspiracy and even mentions his friendship with Paul Wellstone, and then, out of the blue, throws in this bit of anti-semetic drivel "The Zionist Jews now control everything in this country. The entire media,the entire government,the banking system." For centuries, Jews have been blamed for everything wrong with the world and I resent having to read this same garbage on this site. What Brad is doing is fantastic and to have such anti-semitic shit attached to this discussion is uncalled for - especially from someone who claims that Paul Wellstone, a Jew, was a friend of his. I can actually stomach the trolls because I know where they are coming from. But we are supposed to be the intelligent ones who rise above that - only to have one of our own insert such garbage.

i knew from the get go all was not right.just got turned on to this site.it's great keep up the good job with keeping us informed,, :O :O

To commit suicide is not easy. One has to be really depressed to do this. In a clinical depressed situation how can Lemme be excited about his 'work'. Things don't add up here. Things are fishy enough here. A chinese mob hit cannot be ruled out. Keep going Brad!!

re #48 this may not be the place for such a discussion, but since it got started here there's probably no better place for it.

-- How do you know that DJNelson is "one of our own". Have you heard from him before? Could he not be a troll? I'm not saying he is or isn't, I'm just asking how you can be so sure.

-- How do you know that his remark "The Zionist Jews now control everything in this country. The entire media, the entire government, the banking system" is "drivel"? What if it's true? If it is true, that would explain a lot of things that don't otherwise make any sense. So ... if you can prove he's wrong then please do so. But just throwing the term "anti-semetic" at him doesn't cut it. At least not for me. Again I am not claiming that he's right or wrong. I would like to see some evidence. On both sides.

Exactly right. Stick to facts and leave the racial and ethnic crap to the other side.

Fact: Raymond Lemme said he was on the verge of breaking a major political scandal involving Feeney, Yang, and the Florida Department of Transportation. Then he died by mysterious and unexplained means.

Fact: He checked out of a motel a day before his body was found inside that same motel.

Fact: Lemme had no reason to be depressed. On the contrary, he was energized by the success of his investigation. He was also looking forward to his daughter's wedding.

Fact: Investigators in Valdosta, Georgia are conspicuously avoiding discussing the evidence. And, having reopened the investigation in December, 2004, they suddenly closed it again after speaking to the Florida Department of Transportation, which might have been complicit in the very wrongdoing Lemme was investigating.

Fact: There was no reason for Lemme to have been in Valdosta in the first place, except if he had been drawn there by someone who promised to help with his investigation. However, there is strong reason for a murderer to have staged a fake suicide in Georgia...unlike Florida, Georgia has no mandatory autopsy requirement.

It's pickin up steam folks - If The Media Is Liberal Why Aren't They All Over This