READER COMMENTS ON
"Federal Judge Dresses Down O'Keefe, But Lets Him Avoid Trial for Tampering with Senator's Phone"
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Adam Fulford
said on 5/20/2010 @ 3:13 pm PT...
The New York Times is a truly despicable fascist rag in liberal clothing.
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camusrebel
said on 5/20/2010 @ 3:32 pm PT...
I had said early on this story had legs, daddy-long legs. Guess they been chopped off. Apparently whoever financed and organized the phone buggery and could pay for the "superstar" lawyers, had enough left over for the judge. AAhhh, American justice.
The same deep pocket criminals were most likely pulling the strings behind the ACORN travesty.
Pimple faced punks don't get Congress to jump to their tune like an organ grinder and his monkey.
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Magginkat
said on 5/20/2010 @ 3:44 pm PT...
I am working from memory here but doesn't that James O'Keefe bear a striking resemblence to Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber???
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BlueHawk
said on 5/20/2010 @ 3:49 pm PT...
Magginkat @ comment #3
Yes
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Mark E. Smith
said on 5/20/2010 @ 4:04 pm PT...
IOIYAR (or a Democrat)--the culture of impunity. Fifty years from now, if a judge tries to look into the war crimes of the Bush and Obama administrations or the dirty tricks of government and political party operatives, they'll be removed like Judge Garzon was in Spain.
That's why I've been saying for years that it isn't enough to elect new and different representatives, we need a system in which we can hold representatives and anyone else accountable.
Without accountability, there is tyranny with impunity.
I've got a little blog post over on Znet that I think explains the problems:
http://www.zcommunicatio...republic-by-mark-e-smith
And another one about voting:
http://www.zcommunicatio...-consent-by-mark-e-smith
Strange that people keep consenting to be governed under a system where the powerful and those who work for them can get away with anything they want, but ordinary citizens can't even ensure that their votes are counted.
I'm glad there's plenty of outrage, but why keep consenting to an outrageous system?
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Shortbus
said on 5/20/2010 @ 5:52 pm PT...
Gee, just a dressing down?
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Steve Heller
said on 5/20/2010 @ 7:09 pm PT...
I knew nothing would come of it. I knew he'd get away with it. I said as much in comments on this site. But still... God damn it. God-fucking-damn it. There is no justice in this country. None. God damn it to hell.
They'll put a kid with a crack rock in his pocket in the state penn. for years, but this like taint-licker just walks away clean. God-FUCKING-Damn it!
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Big Dan
said on 5/20/2010 @ 7:34 pm PT...
Did the judge give him a "stern frowning", too???
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Jeannie Dean
said on 5/20/2010 @ 9:40 pm PT...
Steve @ #7 ~
...or, they'll charge a hero whistle-blower with three felonies for releasing documentation proving Diebold / Premiere lied to the State of CA and taxpayers by using un-certified software resulting in a multimillion dollar pay out and admission of guilt by the corp. only to then prosecute said hero to the fullest extent of the law just for doing the right thing.
Same system that then lets a fellow Taint-licker off the hook, scott-free. With something stern like words.
I
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Jeannie Dean
said on 5/20/2010 @ 9:44 pm PT...
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Jeannie Dean
said on 5/20/2010 @ 9:48 pm PT...
..what the...oh! I see what it's not liking.
The rest went: "I love you, Steve Heller. I'm so glad you're not a taint-licker. Certainly there must be some dividends and treasures awaiting you somewheres for managing that now challenging feat!"
(Sorry for the stutter.)
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greydog
said on 5/20/2010 @ 10:24 pm PT...
RULE OF LAW?
Not a chance for connected criminals.
America sucks.
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SreeBee
said on 5/20/2010 @ 11:00 pm PT...
I agree 100% with Steve Heller above... there are people serving far greater time for far less than the noxious crimes of James Okeefe.
Nevertheless, I had a feeling this would happen. Okeefe is a wealthy brat tied in with political high-rollers... a small imp among big monsters. Having Flannagan’s son at his side made a good buffer, but having the likes of Karl Rove or Peter Thiel paying his way makes all the difference.
All the same... BOOO!!!!
I am glad Duval made it clear that Okeefe was wrong, and I agree that James represents an “unconscionable” and irresponsible framework that makes everyone loose in the end. But Duval does a great disservice to the very meaning of Justice by not seeing these charges through. BOOO!!!
Here’s the irony— ACORN was defamed and defunded on the basis of falsified internet video whose authors adamantly refused to provide their unedited “evidence” until forced by the promise of immunity from prosecution.
Without a second thought, congress and the mainstream media bought Okeefe's lies hook, line and sinker, and impulsively acted upon that lie.
Without a fair trial, and solely on the basis of Okeefe’s doctored videos, ACORN was convicted of crimes it never committed (in the morbid hallucinations of the Tea Bag movement, that lie still lives.) Despite its imperfections, ACORN did indeed do fine work serving lower income communities.
Meanwhile O’keefe, who never did a single thing to help his fellow human being, get’s any number of shadey deals and under-the-table bargains to equivocate the very real crimes which he DID, in fact, commit.
FOR SHAME!!!!!
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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xxx
said on 5/20/2010 @ 11:28 pm PT...
hey brad,
you left your cock ring under my bed last week. the maid found it. lol.
call me,
m/f
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Chris Hooten
said on 5/21/2010 @ 1:42 am PT...
wtf, that was probably mine, xxx, don't worry about it, your mom said she would return it next week on our date. Sorry about your sheets.
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Chris Hooten
said on 5/21/2010 @ 1:49 am PT...
At least you didn't change the subject, xxx, after all, we *were* talking about that cock-ring O'Keefe.
How could O'Keefe and his buddies not get in more trouble for this? There are terrorists running around, and they thought this was a great idea to pose as telephone repair men, and attempt to break into the phone system of a senator and do god knows what? And no one even goes to trial for anything? What a terrible precedent.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Dan
said on 5/21/2010 @ 8:10 am PT...
How about prosecuting him for willfully destroying US currency as shown above?
Dan
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James Stroud
said on 5/21/2010 @ 12:09 pm PT...
For those of us who are not experts in the CJS, I looked at the AP article. They still face sentencing for their crimes. The judge did not have to issue any sort of admonishment and could have left it procedural. Waiving the right to hear the trial is not the same as dismissing the case. A magistrate will do the sentencing, which probably would have been mitigated by a trial.
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James Stroud
said on 5/21/2010 @ 12:13 pm PT...
A case could be made for a very tough sentence. Whether or not these guys were crusaders for righteousness, a weak sentencing will only encourage terrorists to attempt to gain access to federal buildings under false pretenses. Terrorists could become emboldened by what they perceive is a weak criminal justice system in the US. Even though these guys may have meant well, very harsh sentences must be given to protect the USA from terrorism.
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Big Dan
said on 5/21/2010 @ 1:50 pm PT...
Chris: comment #14 - that's O'Keefe talking to Breitbart in code. Breitbart likes to be called "Brad" when Breitbart has conjugal visits with him. "Maid" is code word for "prison guard".
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SreeBee
said on 5/21/2010 @ 1:54 pm PT...
@ James Stroud #'s 18 & 19,
Hi James,
You make a good point.
I honestly have but a partial understanding of the Criminal Justice Sytem, so I will admit that my own conclusions may have been too premature.
Nevertheless, it does seem like O'Keefe & co are being given too many breaks on this one.
Around 2006, I read an article about an impoverished elderly woman who was whisked to jail for using the extra $90 in food stamps which the government had mistakenly sent her. She used the money to feed the kids in her charge, and was convicted as a criminal for welfare fraud.
Again, not knowing all the in's and out's of the legal system, I am all the same saddened that this women gets put away tout-suite, while people like James O’keefe (who attempted, post 9-11, to enter a federal building under false pretenses, and access its phone system) get a slap on the wrist.
Nevertheless, I hope he meets some justice. He should do his time.
And it might be fitting if he should be made to do community service among the impoverished Americans who are the real victims of his antics (as per the moving statement from Mike Stark.) At the same time, that would be like keeping a wolf among chickens.
I certainly believe that Okeefe and co deserve a very harsh sentence... if only for being so lacking in awareness as to attempt this stunt in the post 9-11 world. One would hope that a real “investigative journalist” might consider the basic context surrounding her/his own “research method”... but O’keefe’s not an investigator nor a journalist... he’s a paid liar, and a careless one at that.
At the same time, I am glad Duval leveled some pretty strong words at O’Keefe and his pals. As light as the “chiding” was, it wont be something any of those 4 will live down any time soon.
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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SreeBee
said on 5/21/2010 @ 2:13 pm PT...
@ James Stroud,
Hi again James,
I just wanted to share with you that I checked out the link to your website, and i REALLY LIKE it!!!! Its super cool!!!!
Coincidently enough, i'm making enchiladas for a get-together this weekend, and I think I'll give your tomatillo sauce a try!
Anyhow, have a wonderful spring!!3aa9b
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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SreeBee
said on 5/21/2010 @ 2:23 pm PT...
@ Steve Heller #7
Steve,
I have just now learned about you through Jeanie's youtube link.
I just want to say how humbled and inspired I am by your story, in addition to being shocked by what you have endured. It is an honor to share this forum with you.
We cannot thank you enough for having strong ethics and a back-bone in an ungrateful world.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Casper D. Schtudly
said on 5/21/2010 @ 3:38 pm PT...
What do you notice about the photos of these four criminals? Of course it's the unnaturally small distance from their eyes to the top of their head, much unlike normal, law-abiding people. Very typical of subnormal intelligence criminal types. I predict a long criminal future for these amoralists.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Steve Heller
said on 5/21/2010 @ 6:34 pm PT...
@Jeannie Dean, #11: Wow, love, eh? Nice. What's that get me? With you, pro'lly something very funny, and hopefully just a wee bit dirty.
@SreeBee, #23: Thanks for your kind words. If interested, more on my case here including a link to a great article about it written by our very own Brad Friedman for Hustler Magazine. Having an article about me in Hustler is still just about the coolest, most kitschy thing that's ever happened to me. Brad Rules!
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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michael
said on 5/23/2010 @ 7:20 pm PT...
the freakin'judge is gay too? ooooh very scary a good dressing down! who got it off ? did the judge cum down hard on o'keefy in his chambers? maybe a little spanky spanky from the silly judgee poo too.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Paul McCarthy
said on 5/24/2010 @ 4:31 pm PT...
I don't get it. The AP article doesn't say that O'Keefe is getting off without a trial. It just said that the judge didn't want to conduct the trial personally since it only involved misdemeanors, so he assigned the case to a magistrate. There hasn't been any "deal" yet.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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nikto
said on 5/25/2010 @ 12:37 pm PT...
I betcha' 20 bucks that judge was a conservative appointee by a GOP slimebag.