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    The Hangover Debate, Live-blogging Pt. 2

    9:49 AM: It kind of slipped by before. But did everyone notice that Gov. Romney essentially said that you shouldn't run for public office unless you're independently wealthy and don't need a salary?

    9:50 AM: Another point on Romney, the idea that Romney's 1994 run against Ted Kennedy was a suicide run is preposterous. Since Kennedy reclaimed some of his legendary status after 1994, it can seem that way in retrospect or if you weren't there at the time. But that's not at all how it was at the time. It was the nadir of Sen. Kennedy's political career, perhaps his personal history as well. And remember, it was 1994, a blow out year for Republicans. The final result was a sizable victory for Kennedy. But that's largely because Romney muffed it in the stretch. He was in that race to win it. Make no mistake.

    9:57 AM: Just out from the Suffolk daily tracking poll ...

    For the fourth day in a row, Mitt Romney has fallen in overnight tracking, and Rick Santorum has dropped into fifth place among likely voters in the Jan. 10 New Hampshire Republican presidential primary, according to the latest Suffolk University/7News two-day tracking poll.

    Ron Paul is gaining on Romney, while Jon Huntsman has rallied into third place.

    Romney dropped 4 percentage points overnight to 35 percent. The former Massachusetts governor still holds a 15 point lead, but his margin has declined by 8 percentage points since last Tuesday, when 43 percent of likely Republican voters backed Romney.

    Josh Marshall

    The Hangover Debate, Live-blogging

    9:17 AM: I think maybe Jon Huntsman woke up this morning and said WTF, I might as well give this a shot.

    9:18 AM: I must say that Gregory is becoming a bit of a caricature of Washington insiderism with these jangling demands for middle class 'pain'.

    9:21 AM: With David Gregory vamping it up about spending cuts, wouldn't talking about painful tax hikes make him look manly too?

    9:29 AM: Okay, I'll give him some credit. He finally got to taxes.

    9:29 AM: Mitt ducks a chance to pledge fealty to Norquist.

    9:32 AM: That was a surprisingly commonsensical answer from Gingrich on partisanship and one term presidencies.

    9:36 AM: From a Republican perspective, Santorum's point is actually a good one. Paul's economic agenda he'd have no ability to push through; his foreign policy he could get to work on on day one.

    Josh Marshall

    The Debate In 100 Seconds

    Missed the debate? Or want to relive the moment Jon Huntsman completely misjudged his audience by speaking in Chinese? Or when Rick Perry threatened to re-invade Iraq? TPM's got your back - and it will only take 100 seconds.

    Thomas Lane

    Ron Paul Slams Gingrich As Draft Dodger

    One of the few moments when sparks genuinely flew in tonight's debate: when Ron Paul repeated his attacks on Newt Gingrich for being a "chicken hawk" who evaded service in Vietnam.

    Watch.

    Josh Marshall

    Quick Reax

    This debate was a very weird exercise. Mitt Romney looks to be on the verge of wrapping this race up pretty early. He won(*) Iowa; he'll almost certainly win New Hampshire by a big margin; and he now looks positioned well to pull off a convincing, if not overwhelming, win in South Carolina. If so, he'll be the first Republican to do that in like forever. And he'll have gone a long way toward showing he can compete with GOP electorates in three key regions of the country.

    And yet, Mitt Romney was almost totally absent from this debate. Yes, he said a few things. And he got his core messages across pretty well. But Romney himself was totally absent from the discussion. It was the individual candidates (besides Romney) attacking each other; or the individual candidates getting distracted by moderators' questions which -- whatever their merits -- didn't take the argument back to core issues relating to Romney; or the individual candidates making passable but not terribly effective arguments for themselves.

    If you're Eric Fehrnstrom or the other folks in the Romney operation you just love that. Because Romney is far in the lead. And this kind of result is really the best you could hope for. The entire evening read like the other candidates are either resigned to Romney's expanding lead or were simply unaware of it.

    Josh Marshall

    Debate Live-Blogging Pt. #3

    10:32 PM: If I were an anti-Mitt Republican watching this debate, I'd be so depressed.

    10:37 PM: Can I really ask our reporters to keep covering this thing if the candidates don't even want to try? Eeeesh.

    Josh Marshall

    Debate Live-Blogging Pt. #2

    9:40 PM: One of my colleagues, correctly, said Romney's basically just coasting now. But I think he's getting a bit too cute by half on this refusal to answer the contraception (i.e., Griswold) question.

    9:47 PM: Watching this debate, it's hard not to think that everyone's basically given up and giving this to Romney.

    9:50 PM: Shorter Newt: Can we get back to some friggin' culture war stuff here?

    9:52 PM: John Adams wrote the constitution? Really? I don't think he was in the country in 1787. #fail. (Readers think Romney was referring to the Massachusetts Constitution, not the federal one.)

    9:59 PM: Shorter Mitt: I've so got this thing.

    10:09 PM: I have to agree with virtually everyone who says this debate is awful. But it's not really the questions -- or not entirely those. It's the candidates. It seems bizarre because the only question looming over this campaign is Mitt Romney. And the debate has almost entirely ignored him. That's a failure of the candidates.

    Josh Marshall

    Round One

    Round one of tonight's debate is a good example of why Mitt Romney is doing so well. Romney is set for a smashing win on Tuesday. And yet almost everything in round one was everybody else attacking each other. Mitt had almost nothing to do with it. And if you're up by 20 points, that's just fine.

    Josh Marshall

    Steppin' In It

    I think Mitt's going to have some problems with this jobs answer. Mitt Romney just insisted that his 100,000 jobs number includes both jobs gains and jobs losses. But in fact his own top advisor said only a few days ago that the 100,000 number came from the jobs created from three companies and did not include the losses.

    Glenn Kessler of the Washington Post finally pressed the Romney campaign on this. And Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom gave Kessler this ...

    Fehrnstrom says the 100,000 figure stems from the growth in jobs from three companies that Romney helped to start or grow while at Bain Capital: Staples (a gain of 89,000 jobs), The Sports Authority (15,000 jobs), and Domino's (7,900 jobs).

    This tally obviously does not include job losses from other companies with which Bain Capital was involved -- and are based on current employment figures, not the period when Romney worked at Bain. (Indeed, Romney made his comments in response to a former employee of American Pad & Paper Co. who says he lost his job after Bain Capital took it private.)

    So when pressed Romney spokesman said it's the gains of three companies -- not the losses.

    And what did Romney himself just say in response to Stephanopoulos? Here's the exchange ...

    Romney: In the business I had we invested in, over 100 different businesses, and net / net, taking out the ones where we lost jobs and the ones where we added? those business have now added over 100,000 jobs. I have a record of learning how to create jobs.

    Stephanopolous: There have been questions about that caluclation of the 100,000 jobs, so if you could explain a little more, I've read some analysts who look at it and say that you're counting the jobs that were created, but the jobs that were taken away. Is that accurate?

    Romney: No, it's not accurate, it includes the net of both, I'm a good enough numbers guy to make sure I got both sides of that.

    How can these two statements be reconciled? Ferhnstrom's statement clearly contradicts Romney's.

    Late Update: TPM's Benjy Sarlin caught up with Ferhnstrom at the 'spin room' after tonight's debate. And Ferhnstrom backed up Romney's explanation. To work around the apparent contradiction he said in so many words that even with the layoffs, the total amounted to more than 100,000 jobs. See the Late Update in this piece for Ferhnstrom's full response.

    Josh Marshall

    Debate Live-Blogging

    9:02 PM: A smiling Newt. Did everyone see that "I Got Nuthin' to Lose, MoFo!" thought bubble over Newt's head?

    9:05 PM: While this debate is going on, there was some big news today in the weeds of the campaign financing game. Sheldon Adelson, an ultra-hawk casino mogul who has virtually limitless money, has given $5 million to a Newt-backing Super PAC for carpet-bombing in South Carolina.

    Josh Marshall

    Wag The Dog

    DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz, on Ron Paul: "The Republican Party has clearly made a decision to embrace extremism and that's been clear from their political activity as well as their caucus and conference in the House and in the Senate. They've allowed the Tea Party extremists to take over, it's the tail wagging the dog."

    David Kurtz

    Debate Marathon Alert

    A schedule oddity has the GOP presidential contenders debating this evening from 9-11 ET for ABC /Yahoo/WMUR then turning around and debating again 10 hours later, at 9 a.m. ET Sunday for Meet The Press/Facebook.

    Remember: No Michele Bachmann or Herman Cain this time around. We'll be hearing a whole lot more from Rick Santorum and Ron Paul.

    TPM will be here for all 3 1/2 hours of dead-on-their-feet debating.

    Watching the Lions v. Saints playoff game tonight? Multitask with TPM.

    David Kurtz

    Am I All Wet?

    From TPM Reader MW ...

    For somebody as politically knowledgeable as yourself, I was quite surprised to see you assert so strongly that things look good for Mitt Romney.

    Romney could win every primary between now and Super Tuesday and it wouldn't make a difference when it comes to what really counts, namely winning delegates.

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    Josh Marshall

    Where Are We Now?

    Over the last two days we've gotten a heap of new polling data out of New Hampshire and South Carolina. And the story those numbers tell is pretty much all good for Mitt Romney.

    We knew -- at least since the Gingrich collapse -- that he'd be strong in New Hampshire. What's really put him in a dominating position is his strength in South Carolina, a state which I think pretty much everyone thought would be a challenge for him even if everything was going well for him.

    So without further ado, here are the TPM Poll Averages and trend charts for these two key races.

    Read More →
    Josh Marshall

    Rick Perry: I Would Send Troops Back To Iraq

    Rick Perry established a new gold standard for hawkish foreign policy at Saturday night's GOP debate in New Hampshire. Not only is he mad President Obama withdrew US forces, he wants to put them back on the ground there immediately.

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    Newt Spokesman: Romney May 'Appease' Al Qaeda

    Mitt Romney's propensity for flip flops could put American lives at risk from terrorism, according to a spokesman for Newt Gingrich. RC Hammond, press secretary for the former Speaker, warned reporters after Sunday's NBC/Facebook debate that everyone should take Romney's shifts seriously in case they spill over into his potential role as Commander in Chief. "Newt Gingrich is the only one with national security leadership," he said. "When you have the Iranians trying to shut down the Persian Gulf, you...
    TPM2012

    Romney's Rapid Flip-Flop Over Super PAC Ads Prompts Surrogate Freakout

    NEW HAMPSHIRE -- The super PAC supporting Mitt Romney blanketed Iowa with millions of dollars in negative campaign ads aimed at Newt Gingrich that became so ubiquitous it was possible to catch them several times in a single television broadcast. The ads flew around online, and they were the subject of many, many news stories. But don't ask Romney about 'em: said he's never seen the ads -- right before he said he's seen one and described its content.
    TPM2012

    Debate In 100 Seconds: Debate For Breakfast

    What better way to start your day than with a wholesome helping of GOP debate? Less than 10 hours since the last one ended, the candidates got back together for a feistier debate, which by all accounts, definitely wasn't beanbag.... ...
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    Mitt Romney: Don't Run For Office If You Need The Salary

    Mitt Romney recounted some advice from his father, former presidential candiate George Romney, in Sunday's NBC/Facebook debate about running for office: make sure you're set for cash already. "I happened to see my dad run for governor when he was 54 years old," Romney said. "He had good advice to me. He said never get involved in politics if you have to win election to pay a mortgage. If you find yourself in a position when you can serve, you ought to have a responsibility to do so if you think you can ...
    TPM2012

    Newt To Mitt: 'Drop The Pious Baloney' (VIDEO)

    Move over, "you're no Jack Kennedy." Stand aside, "a noun and a verb and 9/11" -- "pious baloney" just entered the annals of debate quips. On the debate state Sunday morning in New Hampshire, Newt Gingrich went hard at Mitt Romney after Romney tried to sell his line that he's not now nor ever has he been a career politician. The last time Romney tried this on a debate stage, Gingrich stepped up with a reminder that the only reason Romney didn't have a long political career was that he lost to Ted...
    TPMDC

    Watch The GOP's NBC/Facebook Debate Live

    The GOP debate on NBC's 'Meet The Press' kicks off at 9am Eastern this morning. All eyes will be on Mitt Romney, to see if he can cement his lead over the other candidates. The latest ARG poll in New Hampshire gives him 40% of the vote, with his nearest rival, Jon Huntsman, coming in at 17%. Despite that, in Saturday night's debate the GOP field mostly attacked each other rather than the man who is now the clear frontrunner. Watch live below:
    TPM2012

    Ron Paul Press Aide Walks Away From Newsletter Question

    NEW HAMPSHIRE -- Despite Ron Paul's constant refrain that he's answered every question about a series of fringe newsletters published under his name in the 1980s and 1990s, there are actually still major gaps in his story. While he has disavowed the content and says he didn't write or see the offending passages, he has provided no information as to who wrote them or how he hired his team of ghostwriters, and has even walked out of interviews when pressed on the subject. In addition, he's on record in...
    TPM2012

    Mitt Romney Contradicts Own Spokesman On 100k Jobs Claim

    NEW HAMPSHIRE -- Mitt Romney doubled down in Saturday night's debate on his claim that he created a 100,000 jobs while in the private sector and in the process contradicted recent remarks on the subject from his own campaign spokesperson. Under persistent questioning from debate moderators, Romney denied that the 100,000 figure can only be reached if one does not count layoffs and other job losses he was responsible for during his time at the corporate management company, Bain Capital.
    TPM2012

    Debate In 100 Seconds: Something Romney This Way Comes

    With Mitt Romney feeling so confident of victory in New Hampshire that he's barely been in the state, this was a chance for his rivals to show voters why they should get their votes. Once again, however, they continue to bash one another and the biggest potshot taken at the front runner wasn't even in English. Not to worry though, as everyone always makes a backup plan for when there isn't a debate on Saturday night...
    TPM2012

    Ron Paul Slams Newt Gingrich On Military Service (VIDEO)

    One of the few big battles of Saturday's New Hampshire presidential debate came when Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich fought over military records. Paul has been attacking Gingrich for not serving in the military while supporting potential military action in places like Iran. Gingrich responded that he wasn't able to be drafted because he was married with a child. However, Paul had a ready answer to that... A very cutting answer.
    TPM2012

    Rick Perry: Let's Put Troops Back In Iraq (VIDEO)

    Rick Perry established a new gold standard for hawkish foreign policy at Saturday night's GOP debate in New Hampshire. Not only is he mad President Obama withdrew US forces, he wants to put them back on the ground there immediately. "I would send troops back into Iraq," Rick Perry told a New Hampshire audience at Saturday night's GOP debate, warning that without yet another military operation in Iraq it would fall under the influence of neighboring Iran.
    TPM2012

    Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Romney's A 'Job Cremator'

    Democrats are in full force at Saturday night's Republican debate in New Hampshire, ostensibly to rebut the GOP field, but in practice mostly to go after frontrunner Mitt Romney. Well, not necessarily, the frontrunner. In an interview with TPM at St. Anselm College in Manchester, DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz pushed back against any premature pronouncements of Romney's inevitable nomination. "I would not put the cart before the horse and define him as an unambiguous frontrunner," DNC chair Debbie ...
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    Navy Developing Microbe-Powered Space Rover

    TINA CASEY Scientists at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory are developing a small robotic planetary exploration vehicle that weighs about two pounds, powered by the unique electricity-generating properties of a mud-dwelling microorganism called Geobacter. The Geobacter would be used in a fuel cell powerful enough to run the microrover's basic functions while also charging a small battery. The battery would kick into use as needed to run additional equipment and to operate the microrover's propulsion...
    TPM2012

    Debate Preview: The Anti-Romney's Last Stand

    MANCHESTER, NH -- The GOP field will get its first shot at trying to slow Mitt Romney's Iowa momentum at Saturday night's ABC/Yahoo!/WMUR debate at St. Anselm College. For months, the field has remained largely divided and ineffective in its attacks on Romney, opting just as often to take shots at each other in debates as a parade of dark horses briefly rose to the top tier only to quickly collapse, But there's no question who the frontrunner is on Saturday: polls show Romney well positioned for big...
    TPM2012

    Day In 100 Seconds: Animal Farm

    Fresh from all the excitement that was the Iowa Caucuses, the circus is now rolling in to New Hampshire. The scrutiny is landing on the new rising star, but the leader of the pack has decided the state is not worth his attention. Because he's already won it. And, as the song says, "the animals came in two by two", now it seems so do the debates. With barely even enough time to blink, the Republicans are dumping two debates within the space of less than a day on us. So, prepare yourself for that...
    Muckraker

    'Letters From Osama': Chicago Man Accused Of Mailing Fake Nuclear Bomb Threats Signed By Al-Qaeda Leader

    A Chicago man was charged with mailing fake nuclear bomb threats all around the country and signing them "Osama Bin Laden," according to federal officials. Timothy P. O'Donnell was charged with nine counts of falsely threatening the use of explosives, in an indictment handed down by a federal grand jury on Thursday. According to a press release from the FBI, between March 18th and 22nd of 2011, O'Donnell allegedly sent dozens of letters -- all with the same wording -- from Chicago to recipients in 16...
    TPMDC

    Obama Administration Expands Definition Of Rape

    On Friday, the Justice Department did something it hasn't done since 1929: it changed the definition of rape. For over 80 years, for the purposes of crime collection data, rape was defined as forcible male penile penetration of a female. This excluded a vast number of sexual crimes including oral and anal penetration, or instances when a victim was unable to give consent. The new definition makes up for these oversights. It also expands the definition to reflect that anyone -- male, female, or...
    Muckraker

    Rising Republican Star Arrested For Harassing Woman Who Dumped Him

    Update: Roll Call reports he's dropped out of the race. South Carolina state Rep. Thad Viers, who's running for a seat in Congress and was named a one of the National Republican Campaign Committee's "On The Radar" candidates, was arrested on Friday for allegedly harassing a 28-year-old woman who broke off her relationship with him in July. Viers previously pleaded "no contest" and was fined $500 for harassing his ex-wife's boyfriend with threatening and graphic answering machine messages in 2006,The Sun ...
    TPM2012

    The Dog-Whistle Behind Newt's Food Stamps Rhetoric

    Throughout his campaign, Newt Gingrich has painted himself as the Republican candidate who will reach out to minority voters, particularly the African American community. Gingrich escalated those comments Thursday when he expressed a willingness to address the NAACP on "why the African-American community should demand paychecks and not be satisfied with food stamps." When the NAACP called Newt's comments "divisive," Newt appeared baffled by their unenthusiastic response. Here's the problem.
    TPMDC

    DOJ Files Brief Defending Key Health Care Law Provision To SCOTUS

    Here's the Justice Department's brief defending the new health care law's individual Supreme Court. The arguments track the Obama administration's arguments before lower courts. In this brief, the DOJ argues that the requirement that uninsured people purchase coverage (with government subsidies) is Constitutional both under Congress' power to regulate interstate commerce and because the mandate functions as a tax, which the Constitution provides the Congress wide authority to levy. The argument...

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