READER COMMENTS ON
"Broward County Voters Give 110% in Florida Primary!"
(35 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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KnightErrant
said on 1/31/2008 @ 3:36 pm PT...
Florida has held fewer free, fair, and accurate elections this decade than Turkmenistan.
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moon in the house of moe
said on 1/31/2008 @ 3:56 pm PT...
Many lefty bloggers condemn polls and embrace polls depending on what day it is. When the polls don't agree with election results, they say polls have no validity and should be completely ignored. But as the political yackers approach the next election contest, polls magically become valid again and are widely studied and dissected. They're denounced when they're possible indicators of fraud but back again when they can provide fodder for the blogs and their political prognosticators.
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Agent 99
said on 1/31/2008 @ 4:00 pm PT...
Yuh, and sun in Curly with a Larry rising....
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the zapkitty
said on 1/31/2008 @ 4:12 pm PT...
Unfortunately your admonishments will go unheeded and the first time anyone at dkos mentions fraud or conspiracy in regards to Florida elections... or fails to mention fraud or conspiracy in regards to Florida elections... they and anyone else who questions election results will be labeled "fraudster" and blamed on "Brad" or "Bev" and the purges of the unclean will continue.
Ethnic cleansing... dkosian style.
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Floridiot
said on 1/31/2008 @ 4:25 pm PT...
Hey Moe !!! did you steal the recipe for the flaming Homer again !?!
Us Floridians know how to do it up right, don't we?...for the last time I hope
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karen
said on 1/31/2008 @ 5:01 pm PT...
floridas sos web site says 4,250,391 total votes were cast the 29th but ovr 580,000 voters didnt pick a pres candidate...ovr half mill undervotes
according to same site 4,142,934 did vote on the prop tax amend
blackbox has a spreadsheet about it
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Floridiot
said on 1/31/2008 @ 5:09 pm PT...
Karen, that tax initiative is a joke.
Another Republican plan to put $300 dollars in the average homeowners pocket, about a half mil savings to the upper crust and cutting public services.
Rearranging the deck chairs again....typical
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Dredd
said on 1/31/2008 @ 6:01 pm PT...
"moon in the house of moe" #2
Kos, would you please stop posting here using such names?
Lets talk like adults dude.
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Dredd
said on 1/31/2008 @ 6:10 pm PT...
With faith anything is possible, even 110.54 percent!
Praise the Lord Diebold as these wonderful, spine tingling miracles happeneth!!!
TAKE UP YOUR EVOTE MACHINE, PHIL AND FLORIDIOT , AND WALK PRAISE GOD-DIEBOLD!!!!
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Dredd
said on 1/31/2008 @ 6:13 pm PT...
Right on Agent 99 #3, rising right up into lil' Moe's bum.
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Adriane
said on 1/31/2008 @ 8:10 pm PT...
Ellen, as you know I filed to run against the current SOE in Broward. The information above is indicative of the absolute need for change in that office!!! Without question, we need to address the inconsistencies, and quit blaming some nebulous entity for "glitches." Let’s get it right and bring accountability and integrity back into the process!!!
You do great work!! Keep it up!! Get the information out there!!!
Adriane Reesey, Candidate for Supervisor of Elections www.votereesey2008.com or email to info@votereesey2008.com
Please come to my campaign kick off on February 12, 2008 at the ArtServe located at 1350 East Sunrise Blvd in Ft Lauderdale!
Hope to see you there!!
Adriane
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Adriane
said on 1/31/2008 @ 8:27 pm PT...
Brad, if you feel like coming east to see the ocean from this side.....or my kick-off.......you would be most welcome!
Adriane
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Lux
said on 1/31/2008 @ 8:53 pm PT...
{Ed Note: Racist comment deleted. --99}
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Big Dan
said on 1/31/2008 @ 9:51 pm PT...
What a joke! So, what does that kos guy have to say about that? Nothing! Right?
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CharlieL
said on 1/31/2008 @ 10:09 pm PT...
I'd be curious to know how many signatures in the poll book for that precinct.
And OF COURSE no provisional ballots were given out --- they have to save every last one of those for the Democrats in November.
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CDM
said on 1/31/2008 @ 11:09 pm PT...
Unfortunately I think too many people jumped on the "sour grapes", "conspiracy theory" bandwagon in 2004 and now are stuck looking like total fools if they admit there really has been a serious problem all along.
Imagine all the people who put so much time and energy into ridiculing anybody who ever suggested the votes are being manipulated. They've essentially set themselves up to where they can never really say anything if it looked like "their horse" lost under suspicious circumstances... without eating large amounts of crow that is.
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Shannon
said on 1/31/2008 @ 11:09 pm PT...
I read a report somewhere that said in Florida you could swipe an ID through the machine multiple times to allow multiple votes for the same person. I also heard about machines getting stuck at the voting submission process, and they had to go back, reselecting their candidate - working like a double-post. Has anyone heard about issues like these?
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Brad Friedman
said on 1/31/2008 @ 11:54 pm PT...
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gavin
said on 2/1/2008 @ 3:03 am PT...
Remote flag 125; Shut it down.
CHECKSUM failure.
The result of the math equation is greater than the sum of its parts....
Any video game, embedded firmware or BIOS has this feature.
But this crap does not.
Wake up people, it's a fake.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Jed
said on 2/1/2008 @ 4:00 am PT...
I found similar anomalies in some small precincts in the 2006 elections in Miami-Dade and they never fixed or explained the results. I'm guessing there was some error in how the votes were recorded. Perhaps they don't have a way to audit it and find the true totals so they just pretend there's no problem. We need to go to a totally paper ballot, hand-counted in public system if we want to have confidence in our elections.
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Kage
said on 2/1/2008 @ 4:40 am PT...
937 d+r votes out of 930 registered. Hmmmm
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Art
said on 2/1/2008 @ 5:06 am PT...
And yet....Nothing will be done about it.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Adriane
said on 2/1/2008 @ 5:48 am PT...
How about writing letters to the Editor of the Sun Sentinel. In reading the paper in Broward today, the SOE had a glowing article concerning her assisting a 90 year old with her ballot. NOTHING mentioned about the anomolies.........
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Adriane
said on 2/1/2008 @ 5:55 am PT...
At least it would get peoples attention there in Broward who at this point are being fed stories that look like fairytales related to the election.
The mainstream media has not even come close to calling this election anything but "smooth," and well run.
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Richard
said on 2/1/2008 @ 6:00 am PT...
"As to why there are 44 voters who seem to have voted for the tax initiative, but chose not to vote in either the D or R Presidential Primaries, we also can't tell you."
Potential explanation: Florida has closed primaries, i.e. one must be registered Republican to vote for Repubilcan primary candidates and Democrat for Democratic primary candidates. Independents, greens, librertarians, etc. are excluded. However, any and all registered voters are enigible to vote for any state initiatives and in the general election in November.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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Adriane
said on 2/1/2008 @ 6:13 am PT...
A good point, but where is the explaination from the SOE; and what is the breakdown of voters in that particular precint. What is the NPA total, and does it account for 44?
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Michael g
said on 2/1/2008 @ 6:31 am PT...
Richard, that explanation does not begin to address the fact that close to 100% of the voters would come out and vote in a primary, no less. It would be great to see that registration book with no blank signatures. That would be one for the history books.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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erinzdad
said on 2/1/2008 @ 9:39 am PT...
Wheeehew! Those vote Grinches sure are a busy bunch. They just never rest. Every where you look vote theft is the rule not the exception. I wish we (the law abiding) would fight as hard for the truth as they (the lawless) do for fraud.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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molly
said on 2/1/2008 @ 9:43 am PT...
Just emailed K. Olberman at countdown@msnbc..explained that the so called progressive blogs are gate keepers on this subject...since bloggers want to dicuss it...As a way to get ahead of the curve, since his show is generally liked by bloggers..Have Brad Friedman on as a consultant like Rachel Maddow. Ratings would go up and his show would get out ahead of the internet. Perfect opportunity from a marketing stand point. Democracy Now is a disappointment too in this area.
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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yinn
said on 2/1/2008 @ 9:46 am PT...
I'm an election judge. It's true that some voters will cast a ballot with no votes on it. Perhaps some people want to get out of work or a class, take a longer lunch hour or whatever on an Election Day excuse. This probably occurs most often in counties where the citizens who vote get receipts, but also does (rarely) happen in mine where all I do is slap an "I voted" sticker on ya.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 2/1/2008 @ 10:34 am PT...
So, Yinn, if in fact some voters go to the trouble of voting an entirely blank ballot, how does that explain more votes (blank and voted) than registered voters in the precinct?
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Alex
said on 2/1/2008 @ 11:14 am PT...
A couple of observations Brad:
There could have been 17 people who voted for the candidates and not the tax initiative and 61 folks who voted for the tax initiative and not for a candidate (or write in).
I'd like to know how many people who were registered voters didn't vote? How many possible double votes were there?
And none of the candidates want to question the results?
Why do they bother asking us for money if they don't want to be sure that the vote tallies are correct? And why do we bother sending them money?
Why can't voters ask for recounts, why only candidates?
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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CDM
said on 2/1/2008 @ 1:11 pm PT...
You realize there was more media outrage and airtime over the suspicion that Ron Paul people might somehow be spamming the online and call-in opinion polls.... but 110% voter turn outs, etc are just minor glitches.
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me
said on 2/1/2008 @ 4:51 pm PT...
you said it all Art:
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... Art said on 2/1/2008 @ 5:06 am PT...
And yet....Nothing will be done about it.
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Kristin
said on 2/5/2008 @ 12:43 pm PT...