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There is no sorrow or pain because of my atheism

Started this discussion. Last reply by Joan Denoo 2 hours ago. 2 Replies

“More theological criticism of atheists: we’re not despairing enough”…Continue

Atheists' need for community

Started this discussion. Last reply by Steph S. Mar 13. 38 Replies

The instinct to understand our world can be traced to the Stone Age, when people told stories about natural events they did not understand. Evolution of the mind indicates we no longer need…Continue

Memes and political processes

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People hold thoughts in their minds that influence what they say and do. Some thoughts are conscious and others are not. Environment and life experiences over the course of a lifetime may change with…Continue

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Fossil Fuel-Funded Think Tank FFFTT = the sound of methane or CO2 escaping

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This morning from skepticalscience, "Skepticism About Lower Atmosphere Temperature Data" Posted on 8 January 2012 by dana1981, reported that Forbes magazine contained a climate change article with…Continue

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Joan Denoo replied to Sarah Elizabeth Tygert's discussion 'Humanism vs. Naturalism'
"Great idea! Thanks! We had a wonderful string about atheist vs. theism, gnosticism vs. agnisticism and I learned a great deal from these distinctions. I look forward to further opinions about Humanism vs. Naturalism. Humanism appeals to me…"
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Joan Denoo replied to Joan Denoo's discussion 'There is no sorrow or pain because of my atheism'
"Loren, yes! I agree! It is easy not to raise a fuss about these ignorant comments, unless and until they continue to bugger us. Interesting how all their damnation directed toward us has awakened sleeping giants. Paradigm shifts always…"
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Loren Miller replied to Joan Denoo's discussion 'There is no sorrow or pain because of my atheism'
"The believers expect us to react the way THEY would if their god was all of the sudden absent to them (which it is - don't tell 'em!).  They haven't reasoned out WHY we don't believe in god.  They haven't been…"
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There is no sorrow or pain because of my atheism

“More theological criticism of atheists: we’re not despairing enough”http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/more-theological-criticism-of-atheists-were-not-despairing-enough/ Some say, “New Atheists don’t follow their beliefs to the logical conclusion—the despair and nihilism that emerges when we realize that there is no God, no afterlife, and no…See More
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Joan Denoo replied to annet's discussion 'For Profit Prisons' in the group Justice For All
"Yes, get angry, and active. Profit prisons are an outrageous idea. Making money on prisons leaves no motive to right wrongs committed by the judicial systems. In this country, we do not have a high rehabilitation motive and it would be worse if…"
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Joan Denoo replied to Joan Denoo's discussion 'Which plants will survive droughts, climate change?' in the group Godless in the garden
"I took out my fruiting trees because I needed more light in the garden and late freezes took out the blossoms. I had great success with apples and pears, except for those late cold snaps. Two mountain ash blew over in wind storms. Birch don't…"
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Joan Denoo replied to Steph S.'s discussion 'Morally Depraved because I came out Atheist'
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Sentient Biped replied to Joan Denoo's discussion 'Which plants will survive droughts, climate change?' in the group Godless in the garden
"Sandi, I bet you can grow figs there - what is your climate zone?  I am in 8.  My figs have survived down to 15 degrees.  Multiplier onions can be planted in the fall and give scallions in Jan or feb here.  Your winters are…"
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Joan Denoo replied to Steph S.'s discussion 'Morally Depraved because I came out Atheist'
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Joan Denoo replied to Steph S.'s discussion 'Morally Depraved because I came out Atheist'
"Jabal, In my humble opinion, a "shrink" may be needed by those who believe god exists. "
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Joan Denoo replied to Steph S.'s discussion 'Morally Depraved because I came out Atheist'
"Steph and Jonathan, I was puzzled when Jonathan responded as he did, and I surely honor his request. On the other hand, "Morally Depraved because I came out Atheist" is relevant to the subject, but then I am known to go far…"
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Joan Denoo replied to John Jubinsky's discussion 'Study Says that Older People are More Likely to Believe in God' in the group ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN
"John, I like your plan to donate your body to science, a good use of a body. I would however, want to have a party, but not necessary at the time of my death. Living in the north and family scattered all over the place, I would want a…"
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Joan Denoo replied to John Jubinsky's discussion 'Study Says that Older People are More Likely to Believe in God' in the group ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN
"Idaho Spud! I love it! I can just see the kiddos dancing around as the music plays. I can even imagine them trying to sing along. Yes, it would need a statement of returning elements to the universe!  I like that.  Maybe start with…"
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Joan Denoo replied to John Jubinsky's discussion 'Study Says that Older People are More Likely to Believe in God' in the group ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN
"What a lovely spot for a burial site of loved ones, including your cat. Perhaps a simple little bench where descendants can come, sit, remember, and read from your priceless book.   Oh! I like that idea.  "
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A little 76 year old white haired lady in support shoes who likes to cook, garden, genealogy, photography, politics, spirituality, economics. Just now I am feeling betrayed, not only by religion, but by politics and economic practices. Anyone want to join in a discussion about these interfaces?
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Pepper spray and protesters

Posted on November 22, 2011 at 5:31pm 1 Comment

Pepper spray use by law enforcement against non-violent protesters is clearly outrageous. Police protect property, not non-violent protesters.  Furthermore, why are the police and fire fighters not standing with protesters?  They lose team members with reductions in state and local budgets. The goal is to weaken unions, disable protesters, keep working people poor and shackle small businesses.   

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At 11:21pm on April 28, 2012, Atheist Andrea said…

Thank you, Joan! Compliments to my family are always the most special.   :-)

At 9:45pm on April 28, 2012, Atheist Andrea said…

You are one very cool lady. So happy to see your comments. 

At 8:22pm on April 28, 2012, Jonathan Simeone said…

Joan, I will look for those recordings and writing. I, too, am always interested in learning something new.

At 11:24pm on April 19, 2012, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…

Boy am I slow. I just noticed your great new picture for Politics, Economics & Religion. Been to busy to look at the group lately. :)

At 2:53pm on April 15, 2012, Steph S. said…

Hi Joan!

I hope you are having a relaxing weekend!

Steph

At 11:48am on April 12, 2012, Maruli Marulaki said…

I am very glad, that you experience things improving for you.  

At 4:38pm on March 27, 2012, Jude Johnson said…

Brilliant, Joan. Hopefully the message got through to most of them. It's like most things in life -- the thrill is in the hunt!

Very cool pics, by the way!

At 4:04pm on March 27, 2012, Jude Johnson said…

Thanks a lot for the friend request!

I love your quote above: "Living in the question is a whole lot more interesting than living in the answer." Is that an original?

I agree: what would humans be like if they had no curiosity because they already knew everything? (I shudder to think of it.)

At 8:28pm on March 17, 2012, Steph S. said…
Thanks for being so wonderful! I appreciate all your comments in my discussions!
At 12:57pm on February 24, 2012, Aaron R said…

I feel the same sense of wonder. I'm a bit of a sap, so I feel it quite a bit. Usually when I'm thinking about my kids, the cosmos, evolution, and my own existence. It's not a rare occurrence for me to have a tear rolling down my face in the sheer joy of life as my three year old and I look at the stars and planets or as we talk about the interconnectedness of all life.

I've had these feelings since I was a kid. I remember a specific instance when I was 8-10 years old, playing outside on recess on a beautiful late spring day. I sat down with my friends for some reason, and looked at my hands resting on my knees. I was struck with this powerful feeling of wonder- holy shit, I AM ALIVE, that's pretty amazing. 

We're in good company- Carl Sagan, Richard Dawkins, Neil deGrasse Tyson and others have talked about this quite a bit. It certainly doesn't require a god for such feelings to be explicable, and it certainly doesn't constitute evidence for a god. I grew up in a liberal Catholic family and always had a love of science and technology. Maybe if I grew up in a fundamentalist evangelical family I would've attributed all such feelings to god. Perish the thought. ;)

 
 
 

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