READER COMMENTS ON
"Thanks to Wisconsin's Scott Walker for Helping to Put Talk Radio on Trial at the FCC"
(26 Responses so far...)
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Amy Sturdevant
said on 5/29/2012 @ 1:05 pm PT...
I also remember a time when a person could state an opinion and not be called names and ridiculed. However you as a news personality did exactly that to me. You should not throw stones when you are very aggressive about your comments. I would not classify the way you spoke to me as friendly, persuasive, informative or even in a manner where you tried to argue your point in an educated informed manner!
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Sue Wilson
said on 5/29/2012 @ 2:01 pm PT...
Excuse me, Amy, I am confused, when have I EVER ridiculed you? I don't think we know each other at all. I prefer to engage in a friendly way and allow people to reveal themselves, thank you very much.
The real issue here is whether radio hosts, who routinely ridicule anyone left of Ronald Reagan, have the sole rights to the microphones they speak into. Radio is a scarce commodity, there are only a few frequencies in every community, and it belongs to ALL the people, not just the right wing. Internet belongs to us all too, but it is not scarce, so it isn't regulated the same way (nor should it be.)
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chong lee
said on 5/29/2012 @ 3:13 pm PT...
Free market is a hellava thing isent it? If people don't to hear it they can turn off the dial or switch to different channel.
It just happens nobody wants to listen to Liberal BS on the radio. If they did they be more successful.
Remember Fox News started as small little nothing that had to fight to get on the air.
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Ancient
said on 5/29/2012 @ 3:21 pm PT...
Great piece Sue. I hope people all over the country participate. I believe getting rid of the Fairness Doctrine was one of the worst decisions ever, and a very calculate move by those who think they can own us all. If the Zapple Doctrine is still on the books how can they ignore it? Thanks for raising this issue!
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Brad Friedman
said on 5/29/2012 @ 3:33 pm PT...
Chong Lee - Sorry to see that Fox "News" has so misinformed you that you actually think there is a "free market" in radio. There isn't. There is no competition and there is a corporate lock on the PUBLIC airwaves that rips you off as a consumer and as someone who has been conned --- over those same government-subsidized and publically-owned airwaves --- to believe otherwise.
Glad you've found us. Perhaps you'll finally become educate about the real free market versus the "free market".
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Steve Lane
said on 5/29/2012 @ 3:48 pm PT...
chong lee a rigged market is not a free market. It may be that one can switch off a program one choses not to hear but how do you listen to a program you might choose if it is denied the opportunity to broadcast?
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Ancient
said on 5/29/2012 @ 3:52 pm PT...
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Davey Crocket
said on 5/29/2012 @ 4:55 pm PT...
Well I am no expert on public airwaves but I know a little about human nature. If nobody listened to Rush (e.g.) and no advertisers made money from his show, he would be gone tomorrow.
I seem to recall that there was a major effort from the left to get Rush off the air by pressuring his advertisers. Why would they (the left) use market forces if there were no free market? Perhaps they are watching too much Fox news I guess.
I voted in the Texas primary today...yep, you guessed it...the Republican primary. It was a huge turnout...could not believe it.
eSlate voting machine. My vote has already been hacked I am sure.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Sue Wilson
said on 5/29/2012 @ 5:09 pm PT...
Chong Lee,
Fox News is not on the air. Fox News is on Cable. Cable is private business; when you write your check to Comcast (or whoever) you make a deal to bring privately produced programming from Playboy to Disney into your home.
Broadcasting is a public / private partnership. The public owns the frequencies in the air, the broadcasters own a bunch of equipment and make a deal with We the People to use our frequencies - IF they serve the public interest. Ratings and money are not part of the bargain. If they are smart enough to serve the public and make a buck or ten or a million, good for them.
But not allowing broadcasters to be shills for the Republican party in the 60 days before an election does serve the public - the 70% of the public who do not register with the Republican Party.
Also - did you know that FOX News lost tens of millions of dollars the first five years it was on cable? Only Rupert Murdoch's deep pockets kept it alive.
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Sue Wilson
said on 5/29/2012 @ 5:19 pm PT...
Davey Crocket, is it morally right to allow corporations which completely control radio in Milwaukee, Wisconsin to use the airwaves we ALL own to promote one political party? It's not, and it's not legal either. This has nothing to do with ratings and money.
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Davey Crocket
said on 5/29/2012 @ 5:50 pm PT...
Sue #10
I don't think we can discuss this on moral grounds until we can agree on a common basis for morality.
As to legality...I suspect someone must take the issue to court and let the courts decide.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 5/29/2012 @ 6:14 pm PT...
Davey Crocket @ 8 said:
Well I am no expert on public airwaves
Clearly...
If nobody listened to Rush (e.g.) and no advertisers made money from his show, he would be gone tomorrow.
Actually, not so. There were several weeks (and still are) when ads were going completely unsold on Rush's show. He was/is kept on the air anyway. That may well change after the election is over, however. We'll see how long Premiere wants to lose money on him.
Remember, Clear Channel also owns Premiere (Rush's syndicator), so they have an interest in making sure Rush stays on the air so they can recoup some of the $40m they have promised to pay him each year. Had the syndicator not been owned by the same corporation that owns the stations, many more of them would likely have dumped Rush when he became a liability for the stations. But it's a rigged system without competition or free market, so that is unlikely to occur.
Look up US v. Paramount Studios to see how this nation felt about the owners of the cinemas also being the owners of the studios and holding a monopoly on what was therefore seen in the cinemas. Back when this nation was in favor of real free markets and against trusts and monopolies, we stopped it. Now, the system is rigged to screw you and, worse, the PUBLIC airwaves are the ones telling you there is a "free market" on the public airwaves.
Why would they (the left) use market forces if there were no free market?
Wow. What an embarrassing argument to make. So if there is a monopoly on, say, corn or cable TV and I decide I won't eat corn or won't use cable TV, that means there is no monopoly? You're *really* arguing that a "free market" exists because I still have the choice not to eat corn?
Think you may need to review the old Economics 101 text book. Or...
Perhaps they are watching too much Fox news I guess.
... Just stop watching Fox "News" and listening to the rigged, monopolistic, once-public airwaves.
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Davey Crocket
said on 5/29/2012 @ 6:41 pm PT...
Brad #12,
Rush has a program. That program has advertisers. Rush makes money, Clear Channel makes money, advertisers make money. As long as that does not change, Rush stays on the air. If advertisers go away, Rush goes away. It is very simple.
If you can get the following Rush has, you will get advertisers and the left will have their voice on AM Radio.
This the beauty of capitalism.
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Brad Friedman
said on 5/29/2012 @ 7:02 pm PT...
Davey Crockett @ 13
If you can get the following Rush has, you will get advertisers and the left will have their voice on AM Radio.
The left will have their voice on AM Radio"?! Really?? Where??
Yes, you really don't understand how the rigged radio scam works over our public airwaves. Let me make this non-political for you.
Let's say the Crockett Company owns the licenses to the only two water wells in town. You get to sell the water from both to the public --- if you want to --- but only one well is actually piped into everyone's home. To get water from the other one you have to have heard about it existing (it's not advertised), find the well (there are no maps to it) and bring your own bucket and fill it up and take it home if you can. Because of that, water from the first well can be sold at 5 times the price.
Which well do you suspect is more popular?
That's how talk radio works now in the U.S. If the same companies own all the wells, there is no competition.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Davey Crocket
said on 5/29/2012 @ 7:45 pm PT...
Brad #14,
OK, I concede. You win. The water well argument is indisputable.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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molly
said on 5/30/2012 @ 6:32 am PT...
Sue Wilson,
Thank you for working to bring back democracy in the US in the form of fair media.
"Also - did you know that FOX News lost tens of millions of dollars the first five years it was on cable? Only Rupert Murdoch's deep pockets kept it alive."
I have long suspected that Fox News' high viewer ratings are fabricated. I think time will tell that businesses are paid to keep fox news on their tvs for customers.
I read the Guardian online and am amazed at the information that is not covered in the US but the people in Great Britain seem to be interested in as well as knowledgable. (sp?)
Thank you again for your time and attention to this important matter.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Nunyabiz
said on 5/30/2012 @ 7:22 am PT...
Problem is the SCOTUS will rule 99.99% of the time will rule for Reich wing nonsense.
If it helps democrats in anyway the SCOTUS will rule against it, period.
Scotus is worthless garbage for the next 30 years
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Robert
said on 5/30/2012 @ 7:52 am PT...
Brad, the argument of cable is not "airwaves" is not true. Cable is broadcast (up linked) to a private/government sponsored satellite, using OUR wavelengths, and down linked to our receivers, again using public airwaves. Has anyone ever tried to apply for a radio license, lately? Even non-profit low power tv and/or radio licenses are so difficult to get, they use a lottery system to review the applications. If you are not a large company, there is little chance of getting a license. I was involved in a community radio application about 30 years ago, and it was not easy then. The large corporations have made it almost impossible for a smaller group of individuals to get a license. Fairness is not as important as TRUTH IN BROADCASTING. If we have truth, fairness will follow.
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Chris Hooten
said on 5/30/2012 @ 9:26 am PT...
Dude, are you serious, Robert? You clearly do not understand what broadcast tv means.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Ernest A. Canning
said on 5/30/2012 @ 10:53 am PT...
NUNYABIZ @18 Wrote:
Scotus is worthless garbage for the next 30 years.
Well, it will be if Mitt "Gordon Gekko" Romney is elected and permitted to Bork the Court.
BTW: Who the Hell is Amy Sturdevant?
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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karlof1
said on 5/30/2012 @ 10:54 am PT...
Sue Wilson, thank you for reporting this and lodging the FCC complaint. It would be helpful if other progressive sites republished your piece. Have you submitted it eslewhere? And yes, I signed the petition.
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Irwin Mainway
said on 5/30/2012 @ 9:21 pm PT...
Re: "Remember Fox News started as small little nothing that had to fight to get on the air. "
That little nothing is headed by a career political operative Roger Ailes who is legally allowed to force his 'News' anchors to repeatedly LIE or be FIRED. They sued after refusing to LIE.
That little nothing was subsidized with $500 Million in deep pocket money before it earned one net dollar of profit.
Rush's radio ratings are shored up by conglomerates buying up competing proud progressive stations, dumping the shows, often to ZERO ratings following that.
This is big business, in case you haven't noticed commercial FM radio is DEAD. Radio hits from 1976 on 3 local stations??
Brad's topic: the FCC: Why the hell is a Republican among the two new members?
"The FCC's May public meeting, featuring the first votes by new commissioners Ajit Pai and Jessica Rosenworcel, was a noncontroversial one, with unanimous votes on three items.
Those were to: 1) Further explore the use of aerial-based communications technologies --- floating cell towers, as it were --- in times of emergency when terrestrial-based communications is compromised; 2) to approve the allocation of spectrum for medical monitoring technologies and 3) to free up some 800 MHz spectrum for wireless broadband by lifting channel-spacing limits and technical limitations.
Commissioner Robert McDowell welcomed his colleague, Republican Ajit Pai, with typical humor, pointing out that his name [is] the only one that could be spelled with a single Greek letter."
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Sue Wilson
said on 5/31/2012 @ 11:42 am PT...
Please don't worry about the new Republican on the FCC Commission. There are five commissioners; three from the President's party, two from the opposing party. There was one Democratic seat open, and one Republican. Both were Obama's picks.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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MarkH
said on 5/31/2012 @ 8:54 pm PT...
@22, I didn't know "Ajit" was a Greek letter.
Funny how the MSM never tells us about anything Brad has found.
I've gotten away from almost all radio. When I'm at home I may listen to the local public radio station for some news or sports games and when I'm in the car I constantly scan until I get a song I want to hear. Aside from that I have recently gone digital to get away from compact discs and even now I'm listening to my choice of music played from an iPod through my stereo to regular speakers. It beats a CD changer or old-fashioned radio reception.
No need to worry about radio competition when you can avoid all that talk radio altogether. But, on the other hand, it's hard to get public discussion from talk radio when there's only the fascist Conservative Corporate Right hate view being expressed.
I'd like to see more people able to use Internet 'radio' stations on their smart phones or PCs, so the Left will be able to compete easily.
Let's use our technology and avoid being stuck in the past technology of broadcast radio or the past ideas of the Right.
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Larry Bergan
said on 6/1/2012 @ 1:19 am PT...
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Larry Bergan
said on 6/1/2012 @ 1:30 am PT...
Heck! Even if you're NOT stuck in your car, I think NPR and it's local affiliates are better now, then when Bush was in office.
I still can't stand it when they put Susan Page or others on to fill in for Diane Rehm, but It's still much better then 90% of what's on AM talk radio.