From edwmccann at yahoo.com Tue Mar 1 14:04:59 2016 From: edwmccann at yahoo.com (Edward McCann) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 11:04:59 -0800 Subject: [Kenwood] WB8 WTU de AG6CX re:TS-940S Question In-Reply-To: <443638186.430927970.1456788078139.JavaMail.zimbra@wildblue.net> References: <16C8D5D2-9FC1-4C81-9804-E7DFCDA41AC1@yahoo.com> <56D4B4E9.20905@mindspring.com> <443638186.430927970.1456788078139.JavaMail.zimbra@wildblue.net> Message-ID: Gary and Clif, thanks for response. I misspoke in my initial rant: it was the definition of "RV" I was/am confounded by. I was aware "VR" referred to the "trim-pot." From main instruction manual, p.50, Item 11-2 ADJUSTMENTS: 1. RV voltage adjustment (Control Unit) Adjust voltage to 2.1 V with VR-1. Ok. Easy enough to find VR-1 on control board, but instruction book entry failed to say where measurement of 2.1 v is taken. Heading to service manual, P 68 indeed leads to step 1 in measurement of adjusting RV and RB in the IF unit, and where to do it, (RV on term 13 pin2; RB on term 10, pin 5 stated corrected by Clif to pin 1). But couldn't find where RV and RB were defined. What does RV and RB mean, and did I miss where they were discussed? Moving to Page 81, my version of the manual shows VR-1 in the lower right front corner for sure, just as on the board, as Clif says. Page 80 in my service manual shows shaded pin 1 in uncircled "10" lower left hand corner of PLL unit. I don't see to 8.8 MHz filters on the page, but I guess we are telling about he same measurement point. My frustration was about the operating manual telling me how to make adjustments without telling me where. Guess the service manual in one hand instruction manual in the other. Thanks for your comments Clif and Gary. The "buzzer" is still illusive. Thanks for your continued contributions to the blog. 73, Ed McCann AG6CX ********** Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 29, 2016, at 3:21 PM, clif at avvid.com wrote: > > There is a VR-1 on almost every board in the radio. You have to know which one does what and that's outlined in the service manual. > > Step one in the Voltage Adjustment on pg 68 shows that in the IF unit connector 10 pin 5 (incorrect it should be pin 1) is the measurement point and the adjustment point is VR-1 in the Control unit. The view on pg 80 shows CN10 to be behind the 8.8 filters and Pin 1 is shaded. On the Control unit VR-1 is by itself in the front right corner. > > Clif Holland KA5IPF > www.avvid.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Garey Barrell" > To: "Edward McCann" , "Kenwood" > Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 3:15:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Kenwood] WB8 WTU de AG6CX re:TS-940S Question > > Ed - > > I believe the 'buzzer' is the beep sound associated with key presses. > > 'VR-1' is 'variable resistor' (trimpot) and is described in the service manual alignment > procedure(s). It is on the AVR board and happens to adjust the 28.5 VDC regulated voltage to > the PA. > > -- > 73, Garey - K4OAH > Rome, GA > > Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line > and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs > > > Edward McCann via Kenwood wrote: >> Dennis: >> >> Noted a question on this rig re: buzzer voltage some years ago. >> >> Did anyone ever respond with what the "buzzer" is on the TS940S? >> >> I haven't a clue! >> >> Also an stymied by reference on p 50 of manual that advises adjusting RV voltage to 2.1 v with VR-1. Can't find a definition of "VR" let alone where the instruction book would have me measure the voltage. >> >> You may have moved on to other rigs, but it would be very helpful if you happen to recall these arcane Kenwood moments! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ed McCann >> AG6CX > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kenwood mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From kenw8ek at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 12:31:12 2016 From: kenw8ek at gmail.com (Ken, W8EK) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 12:31:12 -0500 Subject: [Kenwood] HF Xcvr, Filters, Cables, Manuals, and more FS Message-ID: <56DF0C60.50304@gmail.com> Kenwood HF Transceiver, Crystal Filters, Power Cord, Linear T/R switching cable, Desk and Hand Microphones, HT accessories, original boxes, original manuals, and more Kenwood TS-450 S AT, HF Transceiver: The Kenwood TS-450 is a formidable transceiver covering 160 through 10 meters including the WARC bands with 100 watts (40W AM). An internal automatic antenna tuner is included. The TS-450 supports many advanced features such as keypad entry, VOX, 100 memories, XIT, RIT, Notch, IF Shift, Squelch and digital meter. It requires 13.8 V DC at 20.5 amps. Features: 160-10 meters AF Notch CW Reverse 100 Memories Dual Mode NB XIT/RIT IF Shift Keypad Entry All Mode Squelch RF Speech Processor This particular rig works 100% as best I can tell. Cosmetically, it is good. With mic, power cord, and paper work for $450. Kenwood Crystal Filters: Kenwood YK-88 S 1 Crystal Filter: This filter is 2400 Hz wide. This is a "plug in filter" as opposed to the type that must be soldered in. It is used in rigs such as the TS-450, TS-570, TS-690, TS-850, TS-930, TS-940, TS-950, and others. It is for the 8.83 MHz IF. It works fine and looks like new. Paperwork is included for $75. Kenwood YK-88 SN This is the "solder in" type filter that is used in the TS-130, TS-430, TS-440, TS-530, TS-830, R-5000, and many others. It is 1800 Hz wide making it ideal for narrow SSB, but also for digital modes. It works fine and looks like new. $70 DC Power Cable: This is the heavy duty power cable as used on most of the Kenwood HF rigs, plus also many Icom, Alinco, and others. It has the 6 pin molex connector, with four pins used - two for plus and two for ground. It looks good, and of course works fine. $22 Cable for T/R switching if linear amplifiers: This cable goes from a Kenwood transceiver to a linear amplifier to switch the amp from transmit to receive. One end has a DIN connector, as is used with most Kenwood rigs. The other end has an RCA phono plug, as used by most linear amplifiers. Before using this cable, please check the switching capabilities of your transceiver, and the requirements of your amplifier. Cable for switching the T/R relay. Only $15. Cable as above, but with ALC line in addition to T/R switching. $22 Kenwood MC-85 Deluxe Desk Microphone: The Kenwood MC-85 is a deluxe unidirectional electret condenser desk mic. In addition to it being a microphone, it features UP-DOWN tuning for compatible Kenwood transceivers. It also has built-in audio level compensation, preamp and a level meter. It can be used with up to three different rigs. This one has one 8 pin mic cable. This mic requires power that is derived from most Kenwood rigs that use the round 8 pin connector. For other models, you will need to install four AA cells (not supplied). This 700 ohm mic has a 300 to 7000 Hz response. This particular mic works fine and looks like it just came out of its box new. No defects. Paper work is included for $100. Extra Cables for MC-85 Microphones: With 4 pin plug, such as used on TS-130 and others. $20 With round 8 pin plug, as used on TS-430 and others. $20 MC-85 desk mic as above, but "Tech Special" It looks like the silent key was working on repair of this when he passed. All parts appear to be present, plus the addition of a couple extra up/down switches. $45 Hand Microphone with round 8 pin plug for Kenwood, Alinco, etc. This hand mic works great on most Kenwood rigs with the round 8 pin connector, such as the TS-430, TS-440, TM-241, TM-2530, TW-4000, and others, including Alinco and ADI. It says "Electret Condenser Mic" on the back, and "Kenwood" on the front, with no model number. Basically, this mic functions like an MC-43, with a couple more features. It has the mic and PTT switch; it also has up/down switches on the top. There are four "extra" buttons labeled Call, VFO, MR, and PF. What these four buttons do depends on the rig. There is also a "Lock" switch on the back. Regardless if you use the four extra buttons or not, you still have a mic that works like an MC-43. This mic works fine, and looks like new. I am guessing it came with a rig, and was immediately put in the drawer, and never used. $30 Accessories for the Kenwood TH-21 / 31 / 41 series HTs: Kenwood SC-8 T "Soft Case" for any of the TH-21 series HTs Appears to be unused, $12 Antenna adapter that fits the TH-21 series HTs, and has an SO-239 on the other end, to accept a PL-259. $5 Antenna adapter that fits the TH-21 series HTs, and has a BNC on the other end. $8 Original Operating manual for TH-21 HT for 2 meters $8 Original Box, with inserts, for Kenwood TH-41, 440 MHz HT. $8 Kenwood W09-0315 charger This charger is used to charge the larger PB-21 H batteries for the TH-21 series, and also on other Kenwood radios. It has a standard 2.1 mm coaxial connector. $12 Kenwood "Soft Cases" SC-35 soft case For Kenwood TH-78 dual band HT. Looks like new. Only $12. SC-8 T soft case For Kenwood TH-21, TH-31, TH-41 series HTs. Like new condition. $10 Original Boxes for Icom IC-V8 HT, Icom IC-27 mobile, Kenwood TM-221 mobile, Kenwood TH-41 HT, Kenwood TR-2600 HT, and ADI AT-200 HT, complete with inserts. All of these boxes include all of the inserts they came with originally, and are in close to new condition. Original Box for Icom IC-V8 HT. $8 Original Box for the IC-27 two meter mobile transceiver. Also includes the cardboard box for accessories that acts as a spacer. $9 Original Box for Kenwood TM-221 two meter mobile transceiver. $6 Original Box for Kenwood TH-41, 440 MHz HT. $8 Original box for Kenwood TR-2600, Two meter HT. $8 Original Box for ADI AT-200, Two meter HT. $8 Original Manuals for Kenwood equipment: All manuals are in very nice condition, for Kenwood equipment. All are Operating manuals unless otherwise specified. All are original manuals only. SPECIAL: Buy two, three, or four of my books/manuals, and take 10% off. Buy five or more and take 20% off. TH-21 HT for 2 m, $8 TH-215/315/415 HT for 2 m, 220 MHz, or 440 MHz, $10 TH-225, 2 m HT, $12 TH-241/441/541 mobile FM transceivers ...For 2 m, 440 MHz, & 1200 MHz, $12 TM-221/421 2 m or 440 MHz mobile, $12 TM-261/461 2m or 440 MHz mobile, $12 TR-2400, 2 m HT, $12 Service manual for TR-2600, 2 m HT, $12 TS-120 S/V, HF xcvr, $18 TS-450 "External Control" (not operating manual) $7 TW-4000 dual bander mobile, $15 Service manual for TW-4000 dual bander $20 TW-4100 dual band mobile, $15 BC-2 Wall Charger $2 BC-5 DC to DC quick charger $2 DC-21 Dc-DC Converter $2 LF-30A Low Pass Filter $4 MC-30 & MC-35 hand microphones $4 MS-1 mobile stand $3 PB-1, PB-2, PB-3, & PB-4 battery packs $2 PB-21 Battery Pack $2 PB-24 battery pack for TR-2400 $2 PB-25 H battery pack for TR-2500 $2 PS-6 power supply $5 PS-30 power supply $4 SC-8 / 8T Soft Case $2 SMC-24 speaker mic $2 SMC-25 speaker mic $2 SP-820 Speaker $2 These are original Kenwood manuals only. Kenwood Operating Manuals in "Non English" Languages: All of the following manuals are not in the English language. They are the original Kenwood operating manual only. They look quite extensive and detailed, and are basically new, only being opened to observe that it is something I can not read. They are all original from Kenwood and are all $8 each. Kenwood TH-22 A Two Meter HT Spanish Version for the TH-22 A / 22 AT / 22E and TH-42 A / 42 AT / 42 E Kenwood TH-22 A Two Meter HT French Version for the TH-22 A / 22 AT / 22E and TH-42 A / 42 AT / 42 E Kenwood TM G-707 dual band transceiver Spanish version of the TM G-707 Operating Manual I also have many other accessories of many different brands available. Just too many to list here. Please e-mail your requests. Prices do not include shipping from Florida. Thanks. 73, Ken, W8EK Ken Simpson E-mail to W8EK at FLHam.net or W8EK at arrl.net Voice Phone (352) 732-8400 From edwmccann at yahoo.com Wed Mar 23 17:21:22 2016 From: edwmccann at yahoo.com (Edward McCann) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 14:21:22 -0700 Subject: [Kenwood] Four feet for SP-940 or equivalent speaker. Message-ID: Looking for four feet for SP-940 speaker or equivalent. Any one have some? Thanks, Ed McCann AG6CX Sent from my iPhone From stephoto at mind.net Thu Mar 24 04:05:55 2016 From: stephoto at mind.net (Steve Sutfin) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 01:05:55 -0700 Subject: [Kenwood] Tr-9500 Problem Message-ID: <016B4B90-B1BB-4D9B-BACD-52DCBF07E975@mind.net> Hello to the list, I'm trying to resurrect this old UHF rig as I have a TR-9130 that works great. The 9500 receives fine but I've got no carrier in CW or FM mode and no modulation into the mic on SSB. When I key the mic the meter seems to go slightly negative.....like a possible short somewhere? I suspect something in the carrier board. I have the user and service manual and can certainly read a schematic but I do not have much test equipment so would like ANY info on where to start looking. tnx & 73, Steve k7dna From kenw8ek at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 10:20:24 2016 From: kenw8ek at gmail.com (Ken, W8EK) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 10:20:24 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] Kenwood TS-700 A, 2 m multimode transceivers FS Message-ID: <56F69AA8.4030506@gmail.com> I have two Kenwood TS-700 A, 2 meter Multimode transceivers for sale. The Kenwood TS-700A multimode transceiver provides 2 meter operation in FM, LSB, USB, AM and CW modes. Power output is rated at 10 watts. It covers the entire 2 meter band. Enhancements include RF gain, RIT, squelch, noise blanker and 44 fixed channels (11 per MHz band). Operation is from 120/220 VAC, or 13.8 VDC at 4 amps. Features: Multi-Mode RIT Noise Blanker On-Air Indicator Squelch AC/DC Operation I have two units available. The first looks very nice. The front is really great. All bulbs light, and the VFO is smooth. It produces from 11 to 12 W out. However, it only transmits in FM and USB. There is no power out in LSB or AM. Of course FM and USB is about all that is normally used on 2 meters, so it may not matter. The second unit looks good, but not as nice as the first one. It transmits in all modes, but I am 90% sure someone took a "golden screwdriver" to it. The power output is in the 18 to 20 watt range instead of 11 to 12 as it should be. This indicates some one has "tweaked" it. The frequency that it transmits and receives on is not the same as indicated. Basically, I think it needs a complete, accurate alignment, and then it would be great. Buy either one with paper work and 110 V AC power cord for $150 each. The DC power cord is not included. Buy both of them for $275. I also have many other accessories available such as many different types of microphones, HTs, VHF and UHF rigs, HF and VHF/UHF antennas, connectors, miscellaneous accessories, etc. Just too many to list here. Please e-mail your requests. Prices do not include shipping from Florida. Thanks. 73, Ken, W8EK Ken Simpson E-mail to W8EK at FLHam.net or W8EK at arrl.net Voice Phone (352) 732-8400 From gharmon at idworld.net Sat Mar 26 14:42:43 2016 From: gharmon at idworld.net (Gary H. Harmon, Jr.) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 13:42:43 -0500 Subject: [Kenwood] Proper Mike for a TS-120 Message-ID: The manual is not very helpful (unless I missed it) but what is the appropriate 4 pin mike for this transceiver? Thanks all. 73, Gary H. Harmon, Jr. - K5JWK - HAM Radio and ATARI Archaeologist 6003 Archwood San Antonio, TX 78239-1504 210.657.1549 h / 210.884.6926 c/t 210.657.1549 fax with prior notification gharmon at idworld.net "Too many projects - Not enough time!" "Retirement = Every day is a Saturday except Sunday" http://www.grissomroadcoc.org From manualman at juno.com Sat Mar 26 15:29:23 2016 From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:29:23 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] Proper Mike for a TS-120 Message-ID: Page 3 of the operating manual. Audio input impedance: 500 ohms to 50K Cheap dynamic mike (CB or amateur) would work fine. Kenwood MC-50 is also listed in the manual as a viable microphone. Pete, wa2cwa On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 13:42:43 -0500 "Gary H. Harmon, Jr." writes: > The manual is not very helpful (unless I missed it) but what is the > appropriate 4 pin mike for this transceiver? > > > > Thanks all. > > > > 73, > > > > Gary H. Harmon, Jr. - K5JWK - HAM Radio and ATARI Archaeologist From edwmccann at yahoo.com Sat Mar 26 16:10:34 2016 From: edwmccann at yahoo.com (Edward McCann) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 13:10:34 -0700 Subject: [Kenwood] TS-940S Low Volume Problem Solved Message-ID: Hello all: As Paul Harvey would have said, and now for the rest of the story. I addressed many of the valuable suggestions from those who took the time to respond, for which I thank you. Nothing seemed to work. I addressed some of the suggestions from the TS-940 lore, beginning with the "check all gray/coax leads. Didn't count them but it was a big number. Used tiny bit of De-Oxit at each one touched, moving methodically along. But no increase in volume, no intermittents appeared. It wasn't until I used my wooden chop stick to gently nudge the cable harness running from front to back of the rig just above the control board. It moved, and a blast of audio came from the speaker. When I removed chopstick volume went back to low. Lacking resolution from the service manual downloaded from the web, I took several iPhone pictures of the control board (to be able to reassemble the connectors.) Armed with the photos and page 94 PC Board View of the Control Unit and the Terminal Function pages 87 and 88 it finally dawned on me that the harness was held together so tightly, moving in the main section moved bits and pieces down the line, in the vicinity of connectors 36 (audio signal for external speaker, among other things, which I had previously ruled out since the headphone jack had the same low volume), 37 (AF Gain VR, which if I had been clearly thinking I would have stared with, instead of cleaning the gray coax connections throughout the radio) and 38. I couldn't quite replicate or trigger the intermittent by nudging each of the three connectors, but I did disconnect them, and used the De-Oxit at all three. After reassembly of these three connectors, volume was back to an appropriate level. Moral of the story: I should have headed first to these connectors. Pretty dumb when you think about it. After all, they all were in the AF loop. Summary: the chopstick moved the harness, and one of the many harnessed wires downstream moved (without being noticed). I nudged it gently more than once, but one of the moves wiggled the connector just enough to trigger the intermittent. I don't know which connector was the problem, since I lost the scientific method at the end, eager to solve the issue. Lesson Learned: the iPhone took some great detailed photos, with great resolution and the ability to blow up without distortions, all of which were extremely helpful in reassembly without tears. I have a much better set of coax connections I guess, so maybe I have forestalled some other intermittent, at least for now. Again, thanks to all of you for great suggestions. 73 Ed McCann AG6CX Sent from my iPhone From kd5ckp at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 14:27:19 2016 From: kd5ckp at gmail.com (Tim Billingsley) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:27:19 +0000 Subject: [Kenwood] TS2K - saving out of band freqs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does anyone know the secret to actually saving an out of band frequency on the TS-2000? I can enter the frequencies 154.280, .340, etc.. and monitor the local hospital wing, but if u attempt to save the frequency in memory so i can scan all of the frequencies it rejects it. Is there some secret to actually saving this to a memory? You may ask why I want this on my TS2K, well to be honest my TS2K is connected to my best and highest VHF antenna and should hear the farthest. Since the wing operates simplex this is most advantageous to hearing both sides of the conversation. From 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com Tue Mar 29 14:56:42 2016 From: 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com (Richard Knoppow) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:56:42 -0700 Subject: [Kenwood] TS-940S Low Volume Problem Solved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56FACFEA.3080508@ix.netcom.com> Congratulations!!! I don't think you were so dumb at all. Sometimes problems like this are frustratingly difficult to find. I am another who uses wooden or plastic chop sticks to push wiring around. I've found many problems due to intermittent or bad solder joints, solder blobs, shorts, etc, that wiggling the wires discovered. Sometimes things can go for decades and then quit. I've several times found wrapped but unsoldered joints in commercial equipment. The wrapping worked fine for sometimes fifty years and then corroded enough to fail. I think persistence and patience are the secrets. On 3/26/2016 1:10 PM, Edward McCann via Kenwood wrote: > Hello all: > > As Paul Harvey would have said, and now for the rest of the story. > > I addressed many of the valuable suggestions from those who took the time to respond, for which I thank you. Nothing seemed to work. > > I addressed some of the suggestions from the TS-940 lore, beginning with the "check all gray/coax leads. Didn't count them but it was a big number. Used tiny bit of De-Oxit at each one touched, moving methodically along. But no increase in volume, no intermittents appeared. > > It wasn't until I used my wooden chop stick to gently nudge the cable harness running from front to back of the rig just above the control board. It moved, and a blast of audio came from the speaker. When I removed chopstick volume went back to low. > > Lacking resolution from the service manual downloaded from the web, I took several iPhone pictures of the control board (to be able to reassemble the connectors.) Armed with the photos and page 94 PC Board View of the Control Unit and the Terminal Function pages 87 and 88 it finally dawned on me that the harness was held together so tightly, moving in the main section moved bits and pieces down the line, in the vicinity of connectors 36 (audio signal for external speaker, among other things, which I had previously ruled out since the headphone jack had the same low volume), 37 (AF Gain VR, which if I had been clearly thinking I would have stared with, instead of cleaning the gray coax connections throughout the radio) and 38. > > I couldn't quite replicate or trigger the intermittent by nudging each of the three connectors, but I did disconnect them, and used the De-Oxit at all three. After reassembly of these three connectors, volume was back to an appropriate level. > > Moral of the story: I should have headed first to these connectors. Pretty dumb when you think about it. After all, they all were in the AF loop. > > Summary: the chopstick moved the harness, and one of the many harnessed wires downstream moved (without being noticed). > I nudged it gently more than once, but one of the moves wiggled the connector just enough to trigger the intermittent. I don't know which connector was the problem, since I lost the scientific method at the end, eager to solve the issue. > > Lesson Learned: the iPhone took some great detailed photos, with great resolution and the ability to blow up without distortions, all of which were extremely helpful in reassembly without tears. > > I have a much better set of coax connections I guess, so maybe I have forestalled some other intermittent, at least for now. > > Again, thanks to all of you for great suggestions. > > 73 > Ed McCann > AG6CX > > > Sent from my iPhone > ______________________________________________________________ > Kenwood mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Richard Knoppow 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com WB6KBL From kd5ckp at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 18:28:56 2016 From: kd5ckp at gmail.com (Tim Billingsley) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:28:56 +0000 Subject: [Kenwood] TS2K - saving out of band freqs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 29, 2016 13:27, "Tim Billingsley" wrote: > > Does anyone know the secret to actually saving an out of band frequency on the TS-2000? > Guessing no one has had any luck. From lejones1943 at comcast.net Wed Mar 30 20:12:07 2016 From: lejones1943 at comcast.net (Lawrence Jones) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 20:12:07 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] low transmit on ssb Message-ID: <56FC6B57.4080803@comcast.net> I have a Kenwood TS850SAT. It has lost some of it's transmitting power on SSB. It does 100 watts on CW-FSK, FM-AM but not on LSB-USB. It will only do 50 watts on sideband. The SSB power was at about 100 watts and started going down about a month ago. It seem to be holding at 50 watts. I am writing this in hopes that someone may have information that may help me solve this problem. If you can help, please let me know. 73's K4LEJ Lawrence Jones