McCain Just Lost the Last Shred of Respect I had for Him

I've been watching McCain through the primaries, and more than once, I felt him to be the most sane of the Republican candidates. Although he supports the war, and I don't, I felt like he had the most sane view on it from the Republican party. Well, ok - Ron Paul does, but you just can't count him as a sane, rational being if you look at more than his war policy.

Anyway, John McCain has dropped from my esteem down to the likes of Rudy "9/11" Giuliani and Mike "Phone Call from God" Huckabee.



What's with Giuliani there? "I was for it before you were against it?"

Damn, that ending actually makes Ron Paul look sane. It's a sad day for the GOP.

xkcd: Ron Paul Edition

Alt: Ron Paul wants to put the New Republic back on the Corusca gem standard.

By the way, you may have seen or heard the term "Paultard" here and on other blogs. In case you are the husband of the girl at my friend's birthday party Saturday night, you don't qualify (that I know of). To be a Paultard, you have to post obnoxious comments on blogs such as this, expressing your outrage that someone disagrees with you on the most holy of holy subjects, Ron Paul. It helps if you ignore rules of grammar, punctuation and/or paragraph breaks. The less sense you make, the more "'tarded" you are considered. But, you get the most points for thinking you're making sense while totally lying out of your ass. You choose.

Anyway I didn't call you a Paultard, no matter what your inebriated wife may have told you over the phone. But, if you'd like to post below to get the Paultard label, feel free.

Salty Peaks, Ron Paul and the North American Union Myth

Salty Peaks Snowboard shop has a new commercial on X96, talking about the North American Union and saying that anyone who can disprove it will get a $2500 shopping spree at their store. They say to go to StopTheNorthAmericanUnion.com to find out more. The Salty Peaks Snowboard shop also has a link to that site at the very bottom of their web site.

Salty Peaks also happens to have a giant Ron Paul sign leaning against the base of their store sign by the road.

Now, I would dearly love to find an MP3 of this commercial, because I can't recall exactly what it says. How am I to win this $2500 if I can't have the details except on the radio?

Anyway, putting 2 + 2 together, I did a little Google search of the fear-mongering "informational" web site in question, and oddly enough, it mentions Ron Paul 117 times. All of these seem to be, of course, pro-Paul, since he wants to stop said union. A little more curiosity led me to find out that Barack Obama is mentioned about 60 times, Hillary about 80 times, John McCain about 127 times, Rudy Giuliani about 75 times and so on and so forth.

Of course, most of these mentions are on a message board, which you must be a member of to even view. Thankfully, Google has this nifty little caching feature, where you can view Google's copy of a page. Here's one message from their message board which I find interesting:

GOSCOOTIN
Mifflin's Sentries

Joined: Jul 16 2007
POSTS: 34

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:41 am Post subject:
We should of fought and stopped this crap years ago. It is so out of control right not we have to fight every day. They bring up one thing and the people get hot and they bring up something else to take the heat off the other. It's endless.
We need to get more people involved. It amazes me that well educated people don't have a clue about what is going on. Our country is being invaded and it's hard not to notice!
We need to keep fighting. We will only win if we get control of our representatives. I've noticed a lot of them are being very quiet now because they were slammed by the people they represent. But there are others like Kennedy that will fight for amnesty no matter what. And you can't trust any of them.
Bush thinks $3 million is too much to spend on securing our country, but he gives mulitple times that to La Raza organizations. Is there something wrong with this picture? Yes, Bush doesn't want the border. And why should he? If the SPP passes, the borders will have to be opened again. America will be gone forever.
Every day I hear and see more crap going on and it just tears me up. I am never going to give up the fight tho.
We need to promote candidates that are for America. Like Tancredo, Paul and Romney. Someone that is as appauled about what is going on as we are.
God bless America!

(emphasis mine)

So, here's the next response:

2ndamendsis
Site Admin

Joined: Jun 24 2007
POSTS: 682
Location: New Jersey

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:57 am Post subject:
GO
this might interest you Very Happy
http://stopthenorthamericanunion.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=11

Working to get this information out. One step at a time and we're building momentum!

Look at Hunter, Tancredo, Steve King & DeFazio's amendments that MADE HISTORY this week! FIRST Anti-SPP amendments on legislation!!!
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In Memory of "G" ~ USASA 66-70

So, I can't click through, since whenever you click a link to their forums, it redirects to a different page. I can't find that particular thread through the Google cache. And, there's no way to register, since clicking the register link also redirects you. I do wonder why these forums are so hard to get to - are they hiding something? What did that link that would make him "Very Happy" say?

The idea of the North American Union in ludicrous. It's the same sort of fear-mongering that GW has used to keep Americans "in-line" and supporting his "war on terror". Only, this N.A. Union bullshit is based on racism, scaring people into thinking that Mexicans are going to take over, and that they shouldn't be here because...well...they're Mexican. Ron Paul IS a racist, and that is why he has so many racist groups backing him, and why he has published racist statements, even though he attributes those statements to other people.

I don't feel a need to fight back against Ron Paul, because he stands no chance of being our next president.

However, Salty Peaks is wrong for their commercial, wrong for spreading lies and racism, and wrong for promoting that web site. That web site is wrong for the lies and racism, as well.

I generally shop local, and I haven't been inside of a Wal-Mart for a very long time. However, if I had the choice between Salty Peaks and Wal-Mart right now, I'd choose Wal-Mart.

If anyone has the Salty Peaks commercial available to listen to, please let me know. I'd even split the shopping spree with you.

A Message To Troops and Veterans

VoteVets has introduced their blog, and asked presidential candidates to write a message to troops and veterans. Barack Obama's message is now up, as are most of the other candidate's messages, including John Edwards, Ron Paul, Chris Dodd and Hillary Clinton. Joe Biden and Bill Richardson's messages are still on their way, as of right now.

So far, all of them except for Clinton and Paul have addressed the issue of PTSD, and all of them seem to want to fund the vets. It's definitely interesting to see what each of them felt it was important to say on the topic.

Obama/Paul? Paul/Obama?

The latest buzz seems to be that Barack Obama and Ron Paul ought to be running mates, in one fashion or another. Let's do a comparison and see how that might work out.

Lobbyists
Paul voted NO to H.R. 437, to require lobbyist disclosure of bundled donations, May 2007.
Barack Obama has spoken out against such bundling.

Energy Independence and Environmental Impact
Paul Voted NO to H.R. 6
Obama voted YES to H.R. 6
to move toward energy independence and security, to increase the production of clean renewable fuels, to increase the energy efficiency of products, buildings, and vehicles, to promote research on and deploy greenhouse gas capture and storage options, January 2007.

Paul Rated 5% in 2003 by the League of Conservation Voters, indicating anti-environment votes.
Obama rated 100%, the highest environmental rating by the LCV.

Paul Voted NO on raising CAFE standards and providing incentives for alternative fuels, August 2001.
Barack Obama believes that we can meet energy needs while also protecting our environment, with such things as a Cap and Trade system, finding alternative fuels, and that the way to achieve that is to invest in them.

Paul Voted NO on the Kyoto Protocol, Jun 2000.
Barack's energy policies are in alignment with the Kyoto Protocol.

Big Business vs. The People
Paul spoke out against Network Neutrality.
Barack Obama is most certainly for Network Neutrality.

Paul Voted YES on restricting bankruptcy rules, making it harder for the average American, while protecting business, January 2004.
Barack Obama spoke on the Floor of the Senate against such restrictions.

Individual Rights
Paul Rated 0% by NARAL in 2003, indicating a pro-life voting record.
Barack Obama has a 100% score from NARAL.

Paul Rated 100% by FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform), indicating a voting record restricting immigration.
Obama wants tough, practical reform, but not an end to immigration.

Paul Voted NO on H.R. 2, to increase minimum wage to $7.25 in January 2007.
Barack voted YES to minimum wage.

Paul Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC in July 1999.
Barack Obama believes LGBT couples should have the same rights as everyone else.

Government Reform
Paul wants to close the Departments of Energy, Education & Homeland Security.
Obama wants to overhaul and improve them, not destroy them.

Paul wants to abolish federal Medicare and leave it to states.
Obama will give all of us healthcare that works.

Paul Voted NO on strengthening the Social Security Lockbox, May 1999.
Obama promises to fight for and strengthen Social Security.

Paul says he'll abolish the IRS immediately after taking office.
Obama has a tax plan to both cut taxes and ease the hassle of filing.

In considering the above differences, and these are just a few, I do not believe that our country would benefit from a ticket including both of them. We need progress, and Ron Paul's idea of progress is quite different from Barack Obama's. Ron Paul's voting history tells me he wants to protect businesses and eliminate government, while Barack Obama wants to protect the people of America, while eliminating government waste. Our President and Vice President should be working towards the same goals, not against each other with opposite goals.

I agree that Obama must work across party lines, which is usually the argument for this, but that doesn't mean he needs to get in bed with them. He could pick Richardson, Edwards, or whoever it is that he's inclined towards, and still be able to work just fine with the Republicans. That's just who Obama is, and he doesn't need a GOP running mate to do it.

Ron Paul Signs

I can't help but wonder why, if Ron Paul is such a great candidate, his supporters need to break the law to tell everyone? I'm fairly certain there's a law or two being broken with the signs up on the overpasses. I even saw one in Draper attached to the batting cage in a public park. Or is Ron Paul sponsoring Little League now?

If I'm wrong, and what they are doing is legal, please enlighten me. I think the Obama logo could definitely spruce up Salt Lake City.