About Me

My photo
This blog is the work of an educated civilian, not of an expert in the fields discussed.
Showing posts with label gun control. Show all posts
Showing posts with label gun control. Show all posts

Sunday, April 09, 2023

Two News Events: Abortion Pills and Legislators Expelled

I won't say they are the only thing of special note, but two big things happened in the past week. 

Tennesse and Republican Government

First, the Tennessee House expelled two young black legislators for their roles in a gun control protest. A more veteran white woman legislator missed being expelled by one vote.  This is a supermajority Republican (modern-day version) legislature on steroids.  

I think the veteran status meant something, but sorry, any concern this was racism plain and simple is earned.  Also, the two might be back soon. At least one, maybe both, can be temporarily reappointed and then it will be left to voters to decide in a special election. This happened historically when legislators were expelled or resigned under pressure.  

There is a mixture of racism, attacking free speech and protest, and unhinged partisanship here.  This includes critics arguing peaceful protests here were like or worse than 1/6/21.  Finally, expelling representatives in this fashion might even be a Guarantee Clause violation.

This is one of those moments that should not just be labeled "just another thing."  It is a next-level thing and should be labeled as such. More cases might be on the horizon, this serving as a "precedent."

ETA: Both were reinstated by their localities. There will now be a special election.  They both plan to run.  Self-own, Republicans. 

Abortion Pill Rulings

Judge Kacsmaryk (who subtweeted Steve Vladeck for criticizing him, getting schooled in a Slate piece in response) was expected to strike down the usage of the abortion pill mifepristone.  Some conservatives beforehand flagged how the case was weak for various reasons. As one noted:

The plaintiffs’ lawsuit is extremely weak and deserves to lose. I believe it will.

Well, if it does, it won't at this level.  

[ETA: He has a strong criticism up now but I think is a tad too optimistic about how much this is an outlier, especially in the 5CA and about abortion overall.  And, you can be against abortion.  

But, strong advocacy, especially legal advocacy, is likely at some point to influence your judging. People are nominated for their backgrounds for a reason here.  It isn't merely some big academic thought experiment. Anyway, not going to get people to trust here if such people use their bench for opinions like this.]

Two Strict Scrutiny Podcast co-hosts have takedowns, each strongly attacking it using their own styles. Leah Litman at Slate in part attacked his biased rhetoric:

There are several ways the opinion is lawless, as Mark Stern has already pointed out. Start with the tone. Footnote 1 of the opinion announces that it is “unscientific” to use the term “fetus,” and so the great scientist (or judge, it’s hard to keep track) Matthew Kacsmaryk prefers the phrases “unborn child” or “unborn human.” (He cites a philosopher and political scientist for back-up.) Footnote 2 of the opinion then recycles personal-jet-flying, superyacht-riding world traveler Clarence Thomas’s efforts to falsely equate support for abortion rights with eugenics.

Kate Shaw (who has a pending law article with the third host about the claim Dobbs was "democratic" in nature) brings in her restrained anger style at NYT.  To touch upon that:

The drug’s long-settled approval is the result of a functioning democratic process: an accountable federal agency, exercising authority delegated to it by Congress, conducted a rigorous review process — one recognized worldwide as the gold standard. The F.D.A. concluded that mifepristone is incredibly safe, and independent research has since confirmed that it is safer, in fact, than Tylenol, penicillin and Viagra.

Prof. Shaw includes various strategic moves that the Biden Administration (the president and vice president both strongly criticized the ruling) can take besides (as they did) appeal.  The case is made more complicated because a competing opinion came down about the same time on Friday. The op-ed is an important reminder that a bad ruling does not necessarily mean that one judge simply can hold up the government.  

(More links. The Biden Administration's argument a law against abortion products being mailed should be interpreted in a limited fashion. Also, an article on New York's response to the ruling.)  

This ruling is again something that should not be treated as just more of the same.  This is different since unlike expelling legislators we have many more horrible lower-court opinions.  And, it underlines the need to update how we handle nationwide injections, judge shopping, and other matters.  But, even as such opinions go, this one is a doozy.  

Both news stories do touch upon wider things that have been taken "to eleven" (I would worry about this reference if anyone reads my blog) in these cases.  It is fine to talk about that.  Michelle Goldberg, who wrote a book about reproductive policy some years back, talks about the Comstock Act reborn as a whole.  Susan Collins "concerned" with this one opinion won't do it.  

As Biden notes:

But let’s be clear – the only way to stop those who are committed to taking away women’s rights and freedoms in every state is to elect a Congress who will pass a law restoring Roe versus Wade.  

We can note the particularly horrible nature of these two events while still noting the wider problem.  

ETA: This puff piece (curious how personal it is when he isn't supposed to be letting his personal experiences influence his rulings) on the conservative judge won't help NYT critics.  

I looked up the writer, and she's a new member of the SCOTUS coverage team with some real liberal crime coverage cred.  It's a depressing early effort.  

Tuesday, July 05, 2016

"Machine Guns Are Not Protected By The Second Amendment, [5CA] Rules"

The Fifth Circuit led the way regarding the individual rights view of the Second Amendment so it was interesting to read a recent opinion holding that machine guns were not included. A 1986 expanding a national regulation to specifically ban machine guns* (including conversion of other weapons) made after that date. Pre-existing ownership is still legal as a matter of federal law. The Fifth Circuit was following recent lower court precedent in this respect, but went somewhat further than merely saying machine guns are not covered.  The reasoning particularly interested me.
We hold that possession of an unregistered pipe bomb, by its very nature, creates a substantial risk of violence. Unlike a handgun, it is not considered sport to hunt or engage in target practice with a pipe bomb. Moreover, it would be quite difficult to protect oneself or one's family with a pipe bomb. In fact, we cannot conceive of any non-violent or lawful uses for a pipe bomb.
This is from an earlier opinion cited here regarding the "dangerous" nature of a pipe bomb.**  It is relevant since an exception in D.C. v. Heller are "dangerous and unusual weapons," though the last opinion cited there was handed down in 1874. However, Scalia rejects the "startling" (possibility of a federal law somehow being unconstitutional doesn't seem too shocking in itself) idea that the current machine gun ban is unconstitutional. He does so in part to separate personal ownership from ownership that might have a valuable militia purpose.  But, just what this specific term means was left noticeably to the lower courts to determine.  Handguns were noted to be in common use and practical for personal home defense over other guns without comparing it as such to a "dangerous and unusual" arm.

OTOH, in Staples v. U.S., cited by the 5th Circuit, the Supreme Court (in 1994, with only two justices dissenting) required actual knowledge a gun is a banned machine gun. Justice Ginsburg concurred (only Stevens/Blackmun dissented) to emphasize  that Congress recognized "widespread lawful gun ownership” and a "very limited class of firearms, those they considered especially dangerous" that was "often difficult to distinguish from others non-regulated types."  This would have been a useful citation in Heller to help clarify rankings among categories, including the comment: "we might surely classify certain categories of guns -- no doubt including the machine guns, sawed off shotguns, and artillery pieces that Congress has subjected to regulation -- as items the ownership of which would have the same quasi suspect character we attributed to owning hand grenades."  

All guns are "dangerous" in some sense of the word. The term "dangerous and unusual" (interesting match to "cruel and unusual") has been interpreted to use that word to mean "especially dangerous."  The earlier case was not a Second Amendment case, but comparison of a pipe bomb and handgun is telling. The Second Amendment might not have expressly been given the Heller reading, but there was a widespread general understanding that individual ownership should be treated differently when certain types of arms were involved.  The opinion here also discusses "unusual," which it notes has been a matter of some debate. Regardless, like using various Establishment Clause tests, machine guns are "unusual" no matter what test used.  A key factor being widespread bans (cf. Alito's analysis as applied to stun guns).  This again reminds one of how "cruel and unusual" has been applied.

This is interesting and itself goes into more detail than the 3CA opinion, but overall seems rather straightforward. Plus, Heller itself assumes the government can ban machine guns. It also addresses the possible rejoinder that machines guns would seem to be helpful for a "well-regulated militia."  The opinion determined that this was advanced by an individual right to keep and bear arms, arms in common use at the time for personal self-defense.  This was actually the core concern according to Heller -- the personal right to have an arm to deal with confrontations, particularly in the home ("Putting all of these textual elements together, we find that they guarantee the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation.")

What really made me say "hmm," though it does seem to logically follow, is page 11 of the appellate ruling:
Heller, therefore, distinguished between two classes of weapons: (1) those that are useful in the militia or military, and (2) those that are “possessed at home” and are in “common use at the time for lawful purposes like self-defense.” See id. at 621−27 (quotation marks omitted). The individual right protected by the Second Amendment applies only to the second category of weapons, though that category at times may overlap with the first. 
The italics are in the original.  A logical -- one made by the author talking about his book on the First Congress --  interpretation of the Second Amendment is one that focuses on the militia.  States would retain the power over their militia, which would be armed with various types of weapons (the First Militia Act actually required ownership of certain weapons and equipment; state militia laws did as well) and they would not necessarily always be "possessed at home."  Given the recent holiday, reference can be made to the spark that started the Revolutionary War -- reports militia stores would be seized by the British.  Home and personal defense was not quite the same thing here. 

The usual complaint is that modern arms are quite different from the typical musket of old, helping to show that the Second Amendment is obsolete.  The Supreme Court tries to deal with this by noting that yes we have much more serious weaponry now, but the type of arms the amendment is meant to cover is more limited.  This seems a bit of a quirk of technology -- if the advancements in technology that arose not too much later (cf. weaponry of the Civil War), would the overall logic of the amendment be different?  I think not.  The basic logic of the militia and the need to arm "the people" (which turned out generally to be a subset of white males)  would hold.  The fact the average person might not have some repeating rifles or the like at home wouldn't change this.  

As noted in McDonald v. Chicago, sure, there was a development over time regarding the understanding of just what the Second Amendment meant.  Calling out Scalia on bad originalism is a bit of a parlor game, but even textually, the whole thing is somewhat troubling, at least curious. A text that specifically highlights -- something the Constitution nearly never did -- what is specifically at issue largely edits out the first part as something of an also ran ("might').  Yes, in the long run, this is said to advance the needs of the militia.  But, doesn't it have a sort of round peg in a square hole flavor?  Why wouldn't the "arms" be militia arms?  

The focus on an individual right for personal self-defense in the home, a right that I do think exists, is confused here. The Second Amendment to me is best seen as tied to a specific purpose that does involve individual ownership, but only as a means to an end.  People have guns for a range of purposes -- hunting, self-defense, target shooting and so forth.  Originally, one purpose was to defend society in generally, beyond the degree self-defense itself does that.  The current approach is too personal, solitary for my tastes. The image is of a solitary (probably male) person defending hearth and home. But, the Second Amendment is about the "militia," which like the jury is more of a group effort.  

I would get to the same basic place in another fashion. First, the "dangerous and unusual" exception would provide a narrow means.  Second, more broadly, personal ownership would be seen as part of a wider whole, just as free speech and other rights would be. There is a general right to keep and bear arms to advance the interests of the well-regulated militia.  This involves regulation, more so than religious belief or speech; we don't read of "well-regulated churches" or the like. This alone seems notable, including as a partial reply to Justice Thomas' recent dissents that argue that the Second Amendment is getting second class treatment.  Guns here are different.  It's in the text alone. This is so even if you think "well-regulated" is self-regulation to "make regular." Still not present for religion and speech, which can be rather irregular. Disorder is more encouraged in those contexts. 

All rights will be regulated somehow. Specifically, the regulations here are appropriate for the items ("dangerous and unusual") and overall ends. The ends here being self-defense, certain types of firearms can be banned, just as certain types of speech is deemed too dangerous or not worthwhile enough to allow (libel, child porn, threats etc.).  The home is special here as it is for various rights.  Thus, yes, possession in the home would get special protection, but like Lawrence v. Texas, don't think the right is limited to the home. This would not really for me be a "Second Amendment" purpose.  Personal self-defense is a separate liberty.

Heller does focus on personal self-defense and there is a general understanding that agrees with that point of view. So be it. There is a means to connect it all together. The government can very well decide that machine guns are necessary for militia service.  There also might be other weapons that are "dangerous and unusual" in some fashion that for the limited purpose of professional militia use would be appropriate. It might even be constitutionally impermissible for the federal government to deny specific states the power to do so.  But, for the specific personal individual right at issue, it very well might be different. The qualifiers are added advisedly since, like jury service, I think there is an "individual right" to membership in the professional militia, which again might have arms different than those individuals themselves can for home use.  

Since Heller was so originalist in nature, it seems notable that the idea of two categories of arms would probably seem curious to the Founders. The weapons they took to the field were akin to the ones they had at home. There weren't "militia" and "personal use" weapons to the extent the "two classes" discussion seems to establish. The approach here seems somewhat artificial, even if handguns might be a form of military sidearm or whatever.  Now, personal weapons are front and center, their connection to the militia somewhat happenstance. Why not simply accept that personal ownership is a separate liberty and militia use can be regulated separately? Even if the second part of the Second Amendment is not a clean overlap of the first, there is more of a connection than the current rule says.

I think the Second Amendment applies to "both" types of weapons but their different purposes and effects allows different rules.  

---

* Defined here as a gun where one pull of the trigger fires more than one shot.  Per Wikipedia, a "semi-automatic" is a weapon where the gun is ready to fire after the first shot but it requires another pull to do so.

** "Congress added bombs to the list of weapons for which unregistered possession was a crime in 1968. Congress expanded the scope of the National Firearms Act in this manner because of its "specific declaration and finding that destructive devices (such as bazookas, mortars, antitank guns, bombs, missiles, etc.,) machine guns, short-barreled shotguns, and short-barreled rifles are primarily weapons of war and have no appropriate sporting use or use for personal protection." 

Tuesday, September 30, 2014

"District Court embraces as-applied Second Amendment limit on federal felon-in-possession prohibtion"

I think a reasonable liberal would recognize a constitutional right to own firearms (if not the means used in Heller) and found the 5-4 split on the point unfortunate. This would still leave open various limits, including for those convicted of a crime. Nonetheless, and Martha Stewart at times is used as an example, a blanket rule here is overbroad. And, perhaps some common ground can be found here in respect to other fundamental rights such as voting.

Sunday, June 08, 2014

Paul Finkelman on 2A

As noted in this thread that has led back again to the 2A, a historian known particularly for his slavery writings has also written on the origins of the amendment. Useful reading, but just goes to show the limits of originalism. The text is there and it has taken a life of its own. The failure of Heller to discuss the federal power over territories etc. still is a bit disconcerting. I'd rest the individual right largely elsewhere myself. FWIW.

Wednesday, September 11, 2013

Colorado Recalls

I'm not really a fan of recall elections (even of Walker), since terms are already short enough given extended electoral cycles and off cycle elections etc. are already subject to very small electorates. This worsens the situation, often for reasons of short term excitements that worsens the moderating benefits of republican government. More on subject here.

Friday, July 19, 2013

"How Stand Your Ground Relates To George Zimmerman"

I dislike absolute language, especially when it clouds the situation, and suggestions that SYG had "nothing" to do with the verdict is an example. [I should read that guy more.] Sen. Durbin's scheduled hearing is a good move. Gun ownership requires due care, reasonable regulations and balanced self-defense rules. SYG rules skewer things.

Tuesday, January 15, 2013

Gun Owners Protected in NY Law

In a concession to the pro-gun side, local authorities will be allowed to withhold the identities of registered gun owners — an issue that erupted recently when a suburban New York City newspaper published the names and addresses of gun owners in its readership area.
Not cited when Rachel Maddow reported the law. This effort needs compromise and signs of respect to gun owners. This is an example and it is important to note it along with ending gun show loopholes and so on. Also, something about the NRA blocking federal collection of info was noted in passing. Got to clarify things like that.

New NY Gun Law

Gov. Cuomo added to his record by helping to have NY be the first out of the gate here and the law looks fairly promising. Don't think letting a few days pass so legislators can read the thing would have hurt, including notification rules for certain mentally ill that concern some doctors. Measures like protecting the privacy of gun ownership records suggest there is a little bit for everyone. The new "assault weapon" label should be up for litigation soon.

Thursday, January 10, 2013

Americans For Responsible Solutions

As a Western woman and a Persian Gulf War combat veteran who have exercised our Second Amendment rights, we don't want to take away your guns any more than we want to give up the two guns we have locked in a safe at home. What we do want is what the majority of NRA members and other Americans want: responsible changes in our laws to require responsible gun ownership and reduce gun violence.
I'm game, Gabby and Mark [from linked op-ed].

Thursday, December 20, 2012

Assault Weapon Ban?

Tired of Prof. Volokh's one-note responses on his blog regarding gun control, particularly since someone with his scholarship should be able to provide more well-rounded remarks. Don't know how current owners will be handled, but this is yet another conservative gun owner supporting an "assault weapon" ban. Let's see what the Biden task force does.

Monday, December 17, 2012

And More

The prayer vigil last night was touching, particularly the man who gave the Muslim prayer and had trouble holding it together.  He followed a young boy giving a prayer in Arabic, who only stumbled a bit.  Meanwhile, SF survived blowing a 28 point lead, beating the Pats -- I would have punted at the end there, myself. Had a shot to stop them out of field goal range. 

Sunday, December 16, 2012

More on CT


Yes, determining what to do is much more complicated and social norms will have to be addressed as well as scholarship that from my vantage point (see also, deterrence and the death penalty) only takes us so far and needs to be fine tuned.  The ostrich approach won't do. Also, murder rates as a whole have gone done significantly while "rampage violence" has seemed to go up.  I say "seem" since even that has been challenged.  It is all very hazy. 

Saturday, December 15, 2012

Details

Details are starting to come out regarding the mass murder yesterday and it underlines the importance of waiting for the facts.  For instance, if it is not even his guns, it is that much harder to keep them away from those unfit.  This doesn't change the value of using tragedy to, carefully as possible, have a smart conversation about reasonable gun policy. 

Friday, December 14, 2012

Over 20 Dead

We always hear "today's not the time," but why not?  Yes, we can't deal with the specific event with instant solutions, but how about other ones?  Time passed.  Still, there is just so much we can do.  Guns, however, have been taken off the table except to expand gun rights.  Inane.  Guns as much as other major things should be subject to sound regulations. 

Tuesday, December 04, 2012

And More

Last Word highlighted Costas' comments and it is sad that reasonable gun regulation and use is removed from the political discourse. LD noted handguns aren't going to stop tyranny in the 21st Century. Guns are used for various purposes, including self-defense. And, if we consider the matter, for better or worse, our armed society does check the government.

Reality Invades A Kid's Game

Bob Costas (who I find a bit of a blowhard), after noting he often disagrees with the guy, cited a columnist that noted that if the KC player didn't own a handgun, it's likely two people would still be alive. The comment on "gun culture" is fine but guns aren't just going to disappear. Owning a gun isn't really the problem here. It's the abuse of them.

Monday, December 03, 2012

NY Concealed Carry Law Upheld

Only those with a certain need are given a license to carry concealed weapons in NY and Heller/McDonald winner Mr. Gura lost in the second circuit. It's not the home, meets compelling state interest under intermediate scrutiny and there is more supportive history. Reasonable to me, though not slam dunk, if the law is not applied arbitrarily (can see as applied challenges here), but the USSC will have to clarify the rules at some point.

Tuesday, August 07, 2012

We Are Better Than This

As a mom and concerned citizen, I have been looking for a way to discuss the Aurora tragedy intelligently and without snark. Dan Gross of The Center to Prevent Gun Violence seems to want the same. 

-- Elizabeth Banks 
The petition accepts "the right to keep and bear arms," but wants to work together to "look for solutions that will save lives." 

Sunday, July 22, 2012

Aurora

It might be best to wait to get some perspective, but that is not how things work. When something is still raw, we talk about things.  I provided some comments here with additional links.  Guns was also a theme on last week's episode of The Newsroom.  I'll leave it there.

Saturday, March 24, 2012

Stand Your Ground & Florida

I think this is helpful in spelling out what to me seems to be a complicated issue. How would the reckless use of force play out without the recent law?  The shooter is Hispanic. A Hispanic suspect would be treated badly in certain cases too.  Lot of questions.