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Jan 23, 2023

Make it rain!

The Rabbanut, led by Chief Rabbis Rav Yosef and Rav Lau, has called upon the praying public to pray for rain, each community according to its nusach and style.

This year has seen a serious shortage of rain. The other the news reported that a group of farmers petitioned to the Eida Hachareidis to instruct its followers to say the rain prayers, and the Eida did release such a call to the public.

We are near the end of January and have only had a few days of decent rains, so there isnt much left of the winter.

Make it rain!


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Jan 3, 2023

follow the Rabbanut

There has been a lot of criticism of Minister Ben Gvir's ascent to Har Habayit this morning, most of it expected and standard, run of the mill boilerplate criticism - from the religious end to political to diplomatic, etc.

One piece of criticism seems unique to me. That if Chief Rabbi Yitzchak Yosef

Rav Yosef's criticism included a bit, in addition to the boilerplate stuff about it being prohibited, that as a Minister representing the State of Israel he is obligated to act in accordance with the instructions of the Rabbanut that prohibits ascent to Har Habayit.

That is an interesiting point to make. Forgetting what any person or rabbi might hold about goign to Har Habayit, the Rabbanut's position is clear that it is prohibited and then a member of the government and a representative of that government has to do what the Rabbanut says.

Can secular Ministers be told they must keep Shabbos because the Rabbanut says watching television and driving your car on Shabbos is prohibited? Do they all have to eat kosher because the Rabbanut says shrimp is not kosher?

As a minister is Ben Gvir or anyone else obligated to follow the Rabbanut, whether he agrees with them or not? What about Members of Knesset and Deputy Ministers?

Interesting to consider.


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Sep 4, 2022

one of the most important contributions I can think of - being a rabbi in the IDF (video)







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May 30, 2022

PSA: Bet Shemesh kashrut alerts

The Rabbanut of Bet Shemesh issued a kashrut alert regarding several local restaurants stating that the hechsher has been removed.





No reason was given for the Rabbanut of Bet Shemesh removing the hechsher form these restaurants, but reasons are rarely given tot he public.

The affected restaurants and stores are:
Halo Teiman in Neimi Mall
Dagei Bet Shemesh
Pizza Meshulashim in Shaarei Ha'Ir Mall
Pizza Meshulashim in RBS on Kishon St

and without the rabanut hechsher it is likely they wont have the mehadrin hechshers either (as it is illegal, besides for whatever problems might have been discovered, and the mehadrin hechshers usually adhere to this law of requiring a base hechsher of the Rabbanut)

I dont know what happened, and my assumption is that it will be resolved quickly, but be aware of the situation and if you go to any of these (or other) places check the hechsher to see what is current, if that is important to you.

Meshulashim announced on its FB page the following:
All branches of Meshulashim have the hechsher of Rav Landau of Bnei Braq with a permanent mashgiach from the time it opens until closes. That is unconnected to the kashrut of the local council who request large sums of money that is not justified in exchange for their kashrut.
It is a shame that the religious council are "warning" the public without also saying the reason for removing the kashrut - which is only a demand for money that it does not deserve.


UPDATE 02/06/2022 - Meshulashim and Rabbanut Bet Shemesh have to an agreement on the dispute and the Rabbanut has re-issued its kashrut certification for both branches of meshulashim.





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Mar 13, 2022

The farce of "One Kashrut"

Rav Shlomo Aviner posted the following series of questions online (this is my translation):
14 questions to the competing kashrut agency
1. Who is the great posek and expert in kashrut that is guiding you?
2. who runs your kashrut department, who is recognized in Israel and globally as an expert in kashrut?
3. How many years of experience do you have in the field of kashrut?
4. How many places that had their kashrut certification removed by the Rabbanut due to serious infractions - transferred to you to get kashrut in its place?
5. Do you allow products that the Chief Rabbinate does not allow?
6. Do you regularly scoff at the Rabbanut claiming its kashrut is flawed according to halacha?
7. Did you write a halachic opinion in opposition to that of the Rabbanut? Halachic articles with positions not acceptable to the majority of poskim?
8. Did places under your supervision have any of the following issues: bringing in treif food, using regular cauliflower, unsupervised winery, kashrut for a bakery inside a treif restaurant, cooking on Shabbos, importing artichokes infested with bugs?
9. Is a mashgiach who receives a salary from the institution owning the factory paying him - is he free to pasken as he wishes even to remove the kashrut?
10. will competition of two institutions not cause people to find more and more leniencies with the institutions providing minimal kashrut supervision?
11. Is it true that a mashgiach working for the Rabbanut receives 37nis per hour of supervision and by you he receives 73nis per hour - meaning, double? Will this not cause the prices to go up?
12. Is it correct that a business pays the Rabbanut fee of between 527nis and 1383nis for the year and they pay you between 18000 and 30000nis per year - and maybe that causes prices to rise (meaning, 120 million for all the businesses together rather than 10 million)?
13. is it correct that your entire apparatus is supported by donations reaching the millions, ten times the revenue brought in, and in your opinion is that proper?
14. in your opinion is the ideal being one kashrut that everyone can eat from or a multitude of kashrut organizations?

[signed off] One Nation, One State, One Kashrut!

I am not sure the individual questions are all that important but maybe I will relate to some of them, after relating to the bigger picture.

It seems clear, to me at least, that Rav Aviner is referring to Tzohar without saying so explicitly. Unless there are specific claims regarding faults in their supervision (which he alludes to in question #8), the rest of it is mostly irrelevant. I dont care about their individual policies or pricing if it brings about the intended results, of reliable kashrut at a price the public is willing to pay [for the final product].

More generally, if Rav Aviner's goal is one kashrut for everyone, he should be opposed equally to all the other kashrut organizations, yet I have not seen him speak out against them (even if, to be fair, he does prefer the Rabbanut). Why is it ok for Eida, Mahfoud, Rubin, Landau, Kehilot, Beit Yosef, OU and others to operate in the field of kashrut but not Tzohar (or whatever organization he is referring to) - Israel is very far from his ideal of "one Kashrut" and as long as other players are allowed to operate there is no reason to not allow one more. The public will decide which of them to rely on and to support and which not. 


Now to specific questions-
1-3: Rav Aviner's implication is that they do not have kashrut experts and rabbonim. He might not like them or agree with them but they do. Some of them even left the Rabbanut to work for Tzohar.
4. nothing wrong with this if the infractions were fixed and dealt with or if they were only infractions by not meeting Rabbanut standards but were ok by Tzohar (or other) standards... Plenty of food establishments lose one hechsher for whatever reason and then go to another.
5. maybe, maybe not. They do not have to follow Rabbanut policy. They have to follow Tzohar policy.
6. I dont know if they do or not, but if they do just add them to the list of all the Haredi hechshers that do the same.
7. similar to #5, there is no obligation to agree with Rabbanut decisions. they are allowed to disagree on halachic opinions and formulate their own. Disagreement in halacha is nothing new. Nobody has ever made the Rabbanut the final arbiter in halacha.
8. if these issues are true this is a valid issue being raised and hopefully they will fix whatever policies and workflows led to these problems. no hechsher is immune from this. There is no shortage of similar faults in the Rabbanut system either.
9. I dont know Tzohar policy on this but this is a well known problem and is one that plagues many of the kashrut organizations in Israel.
10. competition is always good. It gives the consumer more choice and makes the providers come closer to what the consumer wants. That might be more lenient or more strict. In the Haredi community the more competition the stricter it seems to get, so I am not sure the claim is proven. It might start a drive for more leniencies, it might not. And if it does and the leniencies are all within halacha, there is nothing wrong with it and people can choose which they want to rely on.
11. I dont care what they get paid. If they can pay the mashgiach more without it causing price increases, even better. if it becomes too expensive people wont but the product and food establishments wont hire them.
12. this sounds ridiculous and I have no idea if it is accurate or not but if they are charging so much more than the Rabbanut it seems unlikely restaurants or food producers would be willing to pay that price and they will go out of business.
13. if they are supported by donations, so what?
14. If Tzohar closes down due to the argument of "one kashrut", will we then have one kashrut? Is Tzohar preventing that ideal from happening? There are dozens of kashrut organizations in Israel. Tzohar is just one more.






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Dec 22, 2021

give kosher back to the public

Finance Minister Avigdor Lieberman today called upon the public to avoid the Rabbanut (and he insisted the reforms will go through as planned) and restaurant owners should not get kashrut certificates form them but should hang signs on their restaurants that say we are kosher with no certificate.

The headlines are already screaming about Lieberman calling on the public to break the law.

The law is that the Rabbanut has a monopoly on the word kosher and no restaurant can use the word kosher without obtaining the permission of the Rabbanut. Essentially, Lieberman is telling restaurant owners to ignore that law and declare themselves as kosher without involving the Rabbanut. 

Perhaps Lieberman finds it unnecessary due to the coming reforms rendering it superfluous but if he wants restaurant owners to do this he should first change the law to take away authority over this word from the Rabbanut. Give kosher back to the public before encouraging them to use it!



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Oct 3, 2021

Quote of the Day

For 70 years they have been telling us that the Rabbanut of Israel is treif and can't be relied on, that it compromises on anything connected to the Jewish character of the State, and suddenly now they are fighting for the Rabbanut. Who knows - maybe specifically because of this reform of the kashrut system Jews who until now did not eat kosher food, now specifically because of the Rabbanut reforms, will merit to eating kosher!


  -- Admot of Kretchnif, in a surprising statement of support for the kashrut reforms of Minister Matan Kahane

Many have asked this question, and the thought is generally because of the Haredi jobs that might be lost because of these reforms. I wouldn't go as far as the Admor saying that people who relied on the Rabbanut have eaten treif until now, but the point is the same - and at least according to the Haredi opinion and policy that Rabbanut kashrut cannot be relied upon this is what comes of it...



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Aug 11, 2021

Rabbinic conference statements on kashrut and conversion reforms

the Chief Rabbinate along with associated rabbis and religious councils, led by Chief Rabbis Rav Dovid Lau and Rav Yitzchak Yosef, gathered today for a conference to discuss the proposed reforms in the kashrut and conversion systems.

Kikar reports on some of what was discussed at the conference. I personally find the conclusions the most interesting part. 

1. Regarding the kashrut reforms, they concluded with a statement that the Rabbis of Israel announce that they will instruct anyone who follows their instruction not to rely on any kashrut given according to this plan, as it will present a stumbling block to the public

2. Regarding conversions they concluded with a statement saying that this reality, of taking the conversion system out of the hands of the Chief Rabbinate, will cause a division of separate communities, with the need to create a "sefer yuchsin" and conversions performed by anyone other than the Rabbanut will not be recognized by the rabbis of Israel.

Interesting statements. 

Regarding the kashrut statement, the Haredim dont listen to the Rabbanut and have all their own hechshers anyway. For now they base it on the Rabbanut but will have no problem functioning without. The masorati and secular dont care about the Rabbanut. They'll see the food is kosher by a different organization and will be fine with that. Many among the Dati Leumi follow the Rabbanut, but will they stop eating the Haredi hechshers because the Rabbanut is no longer? Many Dati Leumi will already eat Tzohar hechsher, along with the Haredi hechshers and many don't even rely on plain Rabbanut. I am not sure their statement, or threat, is quite as strong as they make it out to be.

Regarding the conversion statement, which I think is potentially a more significant issue, they already do not recognize conversions performed by organizations other than the Rabbanut, so this is not much of a change. Even the beis din of Rav Nissim Karelitz, an extremely prestigious beis din, was not recognized by the Rabbanut for conversions.





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Jul 26, 2021

Quote of the Day

The Haredi "Badatzes" will profit from your reforms. That rav in Shoham will not profit from it, the Haredi kashrut organization will profit from it but we are not looking out for our own interests but for the two million masorati people who consume kosher food. Where is your ahavat yisrael, your love for Jews, for Masouda in Sderot and for Shimon from Dimona who because of you wont have kosher food?

  -- MK Yitzchak Pindrus (UTJ)

1. Pindrus is probably right - the Haredi hechshers will benefit, get bigger, make more money, get more authority, from the kashrut reform turning Rabbanut into a regulator, and the Rabbanut probably wont authorize Tzohar to certify kashrut.

2. Even though Pindrus is probably right, the free market is almost always better for everybody. Monopolies are good for nobody except for the people who control the monopoly. If people want Badatzes to replace the Rabbanut, give the people Badatzes. If people want a basic level of kashrut, I am sure there will be some organization that will step and provide what the market demands.

3. I do not think Masouda in Sderot and Shimon in Dimona will not have kashrut available to them. the market will provide what is demanded. If people want to eat kosher, an organization will be happy to provide that. It won't be the Rabbanut because they will be regulators, but it will be a different organization






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Jul 20, 2021

kashrut reforms coming

Minister of Religious Affairs Matan Kahane announced a short while ago that he will be introducing reforms to the kashrut industry. Essentially he will be turning the Rabbanut into a regulator while kashrut is privatized. Basically anyone can give kashrut certification and the Rabbanut will set a variety of standards, and monitor and ensure that the various kashrut organizations live up to the standards it chose to certify with.

Additionally, kashrut organizations will be allowed to certify restaurants that are open and operating on Shabbos, if three municipal rabbis give it permission to operate. 

Kahane says there will no longer be a need for double (or more) certification - until now every food or restaurant had to minimally have a Rabbanut hechsher by law, and if they wanted a private hechsher as well, they still had to have the Rabbanut and only above that a private one. Now they will only need to pay for one, and the Rabbanut will be the regulator.
source: INN

Bennett's people have promoted this idea for a long time, so it is not a surprise.

I do not know what might be wrong with it. Municipal rabbis are appointed by the Rabbanut, so I am not sure what the fear is of giving them power to give kashrut in other cities or to give special permission (such as for opening on Shabbos or for setting different standards).

the only opposition I have heard so far is from the Haredi politicians, but I haven't heard an explanation form them of what is wrong - just that Kahane and Bennett are dismantling the kashrut in Israel. Again, I don't know what is wrong with this arrangement. Anyways, they who oppose the move (so far) don't even rely on the Rabbanut hechsher (and many say it isnt even kosher to begin with), so I am not sure why removing that hechsher and having them regulate other certification standards instead is so bad.

I just dont get the argument against giving too much power or authority to rabbis appointed by the Rabbanut instead of leaving that power centralized by the Rabbanut. if you think the Rabbanut should hold the power, what is so bad about the rabbis the Rabbanut appointed? The same argument is used when discussing changes to the conversion system, and I dont understand the complaint there either.

the big issue I think is that I dont see who will step in to replace the Rabbanut and give basic kashrut certification. The competition will be to say I am the best mehadrin hechsher, not I give the basic kashrut level. And this might be the end of non-glatt meat, among other things







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Mar 14, 2021

bacon or facon? Or, should the hashgacha care about the name or the actual kashrut?

I have seen this question raised numerous times, yet I have never seen a conclusive or definitive decision by the kashrut agencies. I have also never seen a clear answer, but there has been some interesting debate on the matter.

The question at times raised is if a kashrut agency can, or should, certify as kosher a restaurant that serves products that are imitations of "treif" foods, such as kosher bacon, such as kosher cheeseburgers, and the like. The question is also if it is ok to serve such products, but many, from what I can tell, are of the opinion that it is common enough today and would not be considered maris ayin. Some, especially among the more Haredi hechshers, won't give kashrut certification on such products, but plenty do.

Crave, a popular restaurant in Jerusalem that serves kosher cheeseburgers and kosher bacon among other things, writes about a new policy by the Rabbanut on the matter. Because of the Rabbanut they need to stop calling it bacon but to now call it facon (from the conjunction of the two words fake and bacon)... English in the Crave post is after the Hebrew...






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Dec 7, 2020

Rabbanut kashrut certificates now giving more information

I recently saw a teudat kashrut on a restaurant that was from Rabbanut Mehadrin (Bet Shemesh) but it also detailed exactly what products the restaurant uses - it said the restaurant uses meats under the hechsher of Rav Rubin, vegetables "Gush Katif", etc... 

The Rabbanut of Bet Shemesh (Mehadrin) was certifying that this restaurant was really using "better" products, "higher hechsher" products, so people who want specifically those products could rest assured that this is what was being used.

While I thought this was somewhat unusual, I didn't remember seeing it before in such detail, I did think it would be helpful for some people who look for specific meats and might rely on the Rabbanut Mehadrin hechsher to state that, while other people might decide that if they rely on Rav Rubin hechsher alone, they will not rely on this type of a certificate. To each his own, but at least it would be helpful to some people.

The Rabbanut just recently announced that such kashrut certificates are the new version of their teudat kashrut. Chief Rabbi Rav Yitzchak Yosef instructed the Rabbanut to no longer just say a restaurant is kosher or kosher lmehadrin, but to give more details, such as regarding the level of kashrut and "chalak" of the meat, details of the food being bishul yisrael.
source: Srugim

More information is always good. The consumer need not be overwhelmed by information that will confuse him or her, but an informed consumer is always a good thing. 

 


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Nov 24, 2020

Rabbanut clarifies kashrut removal policy

One of the frustrating aspects of a kashrut organization removing its kashrut certification form a product or company  or restaurant (or being removed by the company/restaurant) is the announcement of the kashrut removal. 

Sometimes, perhaps even often, the announcement is worded vaguely and sometimes makes one suspicious of troublesome behavior, or fraud or deception. Sometimes all that happened is the restaurant or company decided to switch to a different kashrut certification, yet the consumer sees the announcement of the kashrut being removed without necessarily seeing anything about the new kashrut certification and gets an impression that kashrut was removed because of a problem. That announcement stays in his head and he then suspects the place is no longer kosher, and might even not rely on the new kashrut, if he finds out about it, thinking they must be pulling something over on the new organization that they haven't found yet. 

The wording of these announcements, which are necessary, can be very pareve and neutral, or they can be dangerous and destructive.

The Rabbanut has issued a clarification regarding the wording of such announcements. Obviously this only applies to such announcements from the Rabbanut and not form other organizations, but at least they will be working according to rules of reasonable announcements, and that's a start.

According to the Rabbanut's clarification, it is important to make such an announcement of a kashrut removal, regardless of the reason, so that those who are kashrut observant and used to eating in an establishment with kashrut certification will know that it is no longer certified as kosher. If the removal of certification is due to breaking the rules of kashrut in a way that justified the removal, they reserve the right to announce the removal of certification along with the reason as it sees fit, along with a kashrut warning if deemed necessary. If the reason for the removal is initiated by the customer, whether financial or other reasons, the wording of any announcement should be carefully crafted to not give the impression of any wrongdoing or attempt to cause people to sin, and they should bear no kashrut warning to the public and just leave it as an announcement of the removal of the certification (with the reason) with the local Rabbanut bearing no more responsibility.

Hopefully this clarification will help the public know the true situation of any given restaurant and eatery and will not cause unnecessary damage, while still helping the public keep kosher and be educated about current realities.







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Oct 27, 2020

newly kosher imported Coca Cola

Maariv is reporting (and Srugim as well) that the Rabbanut has decided to approve as kosher some drinks made by Coca Cola (Coca Cola, Coke Zero, Fanta, and Sprite) imported by alternate importers. Until now they have refused to approve these as kosher, thus creating a sort of monopoly by the local manufacturer of the drink under the Landau hechsher which keeps the prices elevated. Allowing alternate imports and certifying them as kosher is expected to bring the prices of Coca Cola down, at least on the imported versions.

The new RRabbanut policy is that if an importer can prove that the product he wants to import is exactly the same as a product already sold and approved in Israel as kosher, the Rabbanut will now approve the import and put its own certification on the product and stamp it kosher. 

So, under this new policy of the Rabbanut, alternate importers of Coca Cola have begun importing the drinks from other countries, and I guess they can prove it to be the same product as the certified one sold in Israel, and obtain the Rabbanut hechsher for the imported Coca Cola.

I would note that as far as I can tell, this has nothing to do with the issue of the fight regarding Ukranian Coca Cola (though the same clause might apply) and the debate over whether Coca Cola without a hechsher can be consumed as kosher or not, nor whether the new Belz hechsher on Ukranian Coca Cola is real and reliable or not.

The Rabbanut stresses that only Coca Cola bearing their kashrut certification is kosher under this new rule and not any and every import. If it does not have the Rabbanut certification on it, it is not approved as kosher even under the new guidelines.



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Oct 20, 2020

kashrut is another victim of Corona

Sadly we have seen cases in the news of restaurants giving up kashrut certification because of how badly their businesses were hit by the Corona situation over the past several months.

The Rabbanut posted online yesterday that half of the [food] businesses in Jerusalem have not renewed their kashrut certificates this quarter. The Rabbanut posts this to remind the public that without a valid kashrut certificate, for whatever reason, you, the kosher consumer, should not eat.

They explained in the comments that many do not want, or maybe are unable, to pay the annual fee for kashrut supervision, and many do not want to pay the mashgiach or are only willing to pay such a small amount that it is a joke. Whatever the reason, they point out, without supervision, the consumer has no way to know what is happening in the kitchen.

half the food businesses in Jerusalem! half! that is an awful lot of restaurants.

Without looking for blame, that is a bad situation. A sad situation. Corona hurt their businesses so badly that they can't afford to pay for kashrut supervision. Or they don't see it as so vital to the business that they consider it a necessary expense and are willing to quickly cut it.

Further, "Half the restaurants in Jerusalem" is not one or two restaurants. That is a big trend. I would hope the Rabbanut is working on a plan to try to figure out a solution or a way to help these restaurants. It isn't going to get better on its own, even if Corona will just magically disappear, after seeing they can survive without kashrut supervision, they won't necessarily come running back to the Rabbanut.



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Sep 1, 2020

Rabbanut and Tzohar agree on kashrut supervision issues... or do they?

This is somewhat complicated and confusing. I am not sure I understand it, but here is the info.

We know that the Rabbanut holds a "monopoly" in Israel on using the word kosher and granting kashrut certification. No other supervising agency besides for the Rabbanut is allowed to declare a place as kosher. The Rabbanut is allowed to start legal action against any organization that does, and in recent months it has. Most of the time, other kashrut agencies simply avoid using the word kosher and stick with more vague and generic terms such as authorized and supervised but not "kosher".

Since Tzohar announced that they are opening up a kashrut supervision division, the Rabbanut has been at odds with them. I am not sure why because there are many other kashrut agencies that the Rabbanut works very nicely with. It is possible that they perceive Tzohar as trying to work as an alternative to the Rabbanut rather than in addition to the Rabbanut, unlike the various "Badatzes" that, for the most part, authorize in addition to the Rabbanut and are not seen as actual competition.

Tzohar announced that they have been in discussions with the Rabbanut over the past few months to find a way to allow Tzohar to give kashrut certification and to ensure the various legal decisions and guidance form the Comptroller are being adhered to. To that end, yesterday the Rabbanut amended their document, giving instructions how the owner of a food establishment could post detailed information about the kashrut status of the food, without using the word kosher with the guidelines based on all the recent legal decisions form the past couple of years.

I don't quite get what the big deal is, as this status has been in affect already. I am not sure how this agreement or discussion with Tzohar changes anything. it seems like it maybe encouraged the Rabbanut to formalize on paper the rules that are already in place. Maybe it clarified a little better what types of words and wordings are allowed and what is not allowed.

After Tzohar took some credit for getting the Rabbanut to back down and meet Tzohar and amend their rules. the Rabbanut itself denied any such cooperation with Tzohar on this matter.

The Rabbanut clarified and said that in recent months they have started legal action against food establishments that have broken the rules and used the word kosher  against the law and now they have simply clarified their policy of enforcement according to the decisions and rulings of the courts and the government legal counsel.

this sounds like making a big news story out of nothing. The rules haven't changed. The Rabbanut just hired a secretary to edit a document with the guidelines that have been in place already anyway.



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Jul 14, 2020

Mehadrin Goose Liver Foi Gras on its way to Israel

Israel used to be one of the leading countries in the farming of geese and foi gras. In 2003 the Supreme Court banned it due to the cruelty involved in the process, and in 2006 instructed the Agriculture Ministry to enforce the law after a number of failed appeals.

Until recently, mehadrin goose livers and foi gras could be found in some places - some countries certified it as mehadrin kosher, while other countries would only certify it as kosher but not mehadrin. It commonly has not been found in Israel with a mehadrin hechsher for a long time, if ever, but searching online one can find old reviews of mehadrin restaurants with mention of foi gras on the menu. It definitely has been available in Israel with a Rabbanut, not mehadrin, hechsher, at least years ago.

Kikar is reporting that The Chief Rabbinate has now approved the import of foi gras with a mehadrin hechsher. Kikar calls it an historic decision, as goose liver in Israel has never been certified as mehadrin, but only regular kosher.

According to the article, one of the members of the Chief Rabbinate rabbinic council went to Hungary with a team of experts to inspect the process of the stuffing of the geese. They then returned to put together a plan for importing the mehadrin goose liver, and the Rabbanut has now approved the plan.

According to the Rabbanut, for this to work the importers will have to adhere to some strict guidelines, such as: all aspects of the farming and stuffing of the geese must take place in one location. The type of feed stuffed into the geese must be a feed that is determined to minimize any risk of ripping the esophagus of the geese (such as by cooking the corn feed to soften and dull any sharp edges and not mixing any complete seed into the feed mix). The stuffing of the geese must be performed using a silicone tube with no sharp edges. And obviously mashgichim must be available to supervise the process.

The Rabbanut's guidelines for the pace of the slaughtering is every shochet can slaughter a maximum of 4-5 geese per minute, no more, and the mashgiach must check the point of slaughter after.

This is a major change in policy.

Bon Apetit



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Jul 7, 2020

Litzman threatens to drop out of coalition because of women getting semicha

Just over a week ago the courts decided that women should be allowed to sit similar exams to the Rabbanut semicha exams, testing their knowledge in halacha but not giving them semicha. It was worked out that these exams for women would not be given by the Rabbanut but through some body in the Education Ministry. Successfully sitting these exams would give the women similar financial and career opportunities to the men who pass the Rabbanut semicha exams.

The Chief Rabbi, Rav Yitzchak Yosef, already said he doesn't like this and will put all the Rabbanut testing on hold if he is forced to let women sit the exams.

I am still not sure how that protest works, because the women won't be tested through the Rabbanut, but that's the line they continue to push in opposition to the testing.

After a meeting about this with Rav Yosef, Minister of Housing Yaakov Litzman has now threatened, or warned, PM Netanyahu that if women will be allowed to take the Rabbanut exams for semicha he will leave the coalition government.

The only thing I can suggest is that they are worried that the idea of doing it through the Ministry of Education, or of Higher Education, will not be accepted and pushed through and int he end it will be forced on the Rabbanut, so they are gearing up now to pressure against that happening.

I am not sure what Netanyahu can do. This was not a political or executive decision, but a legal one.

Either way, with all the chaos and fighting, there have been plenty of issues already in the air that someone might think would cause the collapse of the government. I don't think women testing for semicha was the one anyone thought would be it, but it might just come to that...



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Jul 5, 2020

Rabbanut shows its expertise at trolling

Gotta love the Rabbanut

They have been the subject of a trend of restaurants giving up their hechsher due to it being too expensive and the Rabbanut not willing to work for free.Just last week there was a restaurant that didn't even have a hechsher from the Rabbanut but announced it was giving it up, seemingly to ride the coattails of the trend and bring in masses of anti-Rabbanut supporters as customers.

The Rabbanut, of course, posts all its updates, including such news of restaurants no longer being certified by the Rabbanut, on its Facebook page, among in its newsletter and in other relevant media.

According to Srugim, in the comments on the post about this latest restaurant giving up the hechsher it never even had, some people wrote some harsh comments about the Rabbanut, as often happens on such posts (or on posts elsewhere on these topics).

The Rabbanut fought back and trolled the commenters on its page. The Chief Rabbinate FB account responded to harsh comments with even harsher responses. The account responded to someone with a doctorate degree saying that obviously a doctorate gives no indication of being smart. Another person was told that if she has no idea what she is talking about, in the future it would be better for her to just disconnect her keyboard. Another person who called the Rabbanut primitive was told that his parents were primitive for raising him to be rude. And more.

When the Rabbanut was called out on this, they apologized and blamed it on one of their employees who went rogue and responded to comments using the Rabbanut account though he thought he was writing from his own personal account. They have since disciplined him and taken away his access to the Rabbanut account, and deleted the offensive comments (though some are screenshot and included in the Srugim article).

Haha! so they normally troll their commenters by using personal accounts, not in  he formal name of the Rabbanut. This guy forgot, so he got in trouble...

As much as a I like a good troll and good on them for fighting back, the Rabbanut is there to serve the public and is an official governmental body. I am not sure criticizing people in a very personal way is the right way to go about their business. The lack of care or concern about what the public thinks of them is precisely a large part of what people don't like about the Rabbanut bureaucracy.








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Jul 1, 2020

the restaurant that lost its hechsher... or did it?

It seems that people running restaurants realize that losing, or giving up, a Rabbanut teuda due to Corona problems (ie hechsher/teuda too expensive in the days of Corona) can be very profitable, at least in the short term. It becomes splashy news, and the masses come out to support the restaurant against the oppressive and insensitive Rabbanut. It might not work as a long term boost to business, but at least int eh short term it can give the restaurant a nice jolt.

A restaurant in Kiryat Ono, Hamaadaniya Shel Erez, put out an announcement that it has decided to give up its connection with the Rabbanut due to financial difficulties due to CoronaVirus, and that from now the public should know that it is operating without a teudat kashrut.

The only problem is that shortly after the announcement one of the rabbis from the kashrut division of the local Rabbanut, along with the Chief Rabbi Rav Ratzon Arussi, responded exposing the announcement as fraudulent as this restaurant has never had a teuda from the Rabbanut, so it isn't giving up anything. They have operated until now without a teudat kashrut and are continuing to do so.

To explain further the rabbis said that the restaurant owners did recently request a teudat kashrut. They responded positively to some of the Rabbanut's requests, but they refused other aspects of the Rabbanut's concerns, such as food sold on Fridays being supervised.

The Rabbanut stressed that this restaurant never had a teuda, and had only started communicating with the Rabbanut about the possibility but it had not ended with any certification. They were granted a temporary authorization, without a teuda, for 2 days, based on a promise about kashrut on products sold out of the city. Immediately after that they announced that they are giving up on the Rabbanut and will be operating from now without a teuda.

The restaurant owners responded saying that they really planned on getting a teuda from the Rabbanut since the restaurant is really kosher anyway, just without a teuda, but when they saw the massive investment they would need to make based on the requirements of the Rabbanut, they decided they could not do it. They said there was a mashgiach from the Rabbanut each day with a temporary kashrut teuda and this was coordinated via the Rabbanut. Because they had announced they were kosher with the Rabbanut (ie on a temporary basis with intent to become permanent), when the communication with the Rabbanut was ended, integrity demanded of them that they announce that they will no longer have the Rabbanut teuda.
source: Kikar

As King Solomon said, only God knows what is in the hearts of man. We don't really know if this was a scam or an honest attempt that just didn't work out. but it looks really bad (from the little we know). Sure, the Rabbanut has a lot to work on and we all know how difficult the Rabbanut can be - that does not mean every claim against the Rabbanut is fair and justified and even true. This is nothing like any of the other recent cases. if a non-kosher restaurant, even if they claim they were technically kosher before, wants to become kosher, they are going to have to make changes and meet the requirements, and that takes investment.







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