Michelle Malkin:
"After some two dozen posts and nearly 18,000 words [Muller and Robinson] still have not explained why, if internment, evacuation, and relocation were driven primarily by racism and wartime hysteria, our intelligence agencies were so concerned about Japanese espionage on the West Coast."
The nub of our disagreement sits right there, in that one sentence.
Nobody doubts that Americans in general and military officials in particular were frightened of attacks on the US mainland and on US and allied shipping along both coasts. Nobody doubts that Japan and Germany wanted to set up espionage and sabotage relationships in the US with both their own nationals and others (including, but by no means limited to, children of their nationals.) And nobody doubts that in a few instances they were successful in doing this. The Tachibana Ring in Los Angeles is a well documented example. The "contacts" with "second-generations" implied in a couple of the MAGIC cables are a much, much vaguer and more questionable example (because we have no idea who they're referring to, or whether the authors of the cables were doing anything more than bragging to the home office, or whether McCloy, Stimson, and Roosevelt actually focused on those couple of cables).)
So of course they were "concerned." Why wouldn't they be?
But what did they do with those concerns? How did they understand them? How did that understanding differ from their understanding of similar concerns about other racial or ethnic groups? How can one account for the scope of what they recommended as a remedy for their concerns about people of Japanese ancestry? How can one account for the difference in scope and mechanism of what they recommended as a remedy for those concerns, as compared to what they similar concerns they had (or for which there was ample evidence) as to other ethnic groups? How can one ignore the impact of the overwhelming political pressure applied on the military by people and groups who had no access to intelligence of any sort? How can one account for the multitude of decisions about the conditions and duration of confinement and the continuation of exclusion from the Coast that were made by federal and state officials other than the trio of Roosevelt, Stimson, and McCloy for months and even years after Roosevelt signed off on Executive Order 9066?
When I was in college, late one evening a good friend of mine appeared at my door, pale, panicked, and out of breath. I asked her what was wrong, and she said she had run from her apartment, which was about 4 blocks away, because she had seen a mouse. She was terrified to be in the apartment and wanted me to go in and see if I could find it. We went in, and while we were looking around, a dust bunny blew out from under a couch. She shrieked, thinking it was a mouse.
See the parallel? No, folks, I'm not comparing the attack on Pearl Harbor to a mouse. I'm making a point about the impact that the irrational has on how we perceive dangers, and on how we decide what steps we need to take to respond to them. There really, truly was a mouse in her apartment, and she had really, truly seen it. Suddenly she found herself running alone down a city street at 11:30 at night for four blocks, because of some story that she had deep in her mind about the terrors of mice. Then she found herself screaming at a dust bunny.
Did a mouse cause her to be frightened? Initially, yes. Was it the mouse that caused her to tear out of her place and run to mine? Or was it instead thoughts and feelings she had about mice in general? Was it a mouse that caused her to shriek once we got back to the apartment? No, it wasn't; it was a dust bunny. Her thoughts and feelings about mice caused her to misperceive what she saw.
"Racism and wartime hysteria" cannot be stashed in some hermetically sealed container, apart from the supposedly cool calculus of rational military planners. So it's not that people in or out of the military saw nothing to induce fear of Japanese sabotage. It's that people perceived and reacted to what they saw through the lens of panic and racism. And it's the latter that explains what
actually ended up happening, as opposed to what might have ended up happening.
Three other things:
1. Malkin asks at the end of her post whether I can be understood to be supporting the "locking up" of all Kibei (American citizens of Japanese ancestry who were sent to Japan for some or all of their education before the war). I didn't suggest that; what I told
Cathy Young was that "there were valid reasons, both in intelligence information and from what was generally known, for the government to take some sort of protective action touching Japanese aliens and most probably at least some of the so-called 'Kibei.'"
Hmmm. I say "some sort of protective action" as against "at least some" Kibei. She hears "lock 'em up!" Itchy trigger finger, I'd say. The idea of "locking them up"—and of doing it to all of them—comes from Malkin, not me.
On the careful question that Michelle did not ask--whether, with Congressional authorization, and after hearings before a neutral arbiter, the military would have had the power to impose milder restrictions than incarceration (for example, exclusion from narrowly drawn military areas and prohibition on employment in defense industries) on an individual basis as to a subset of Kibei who had had spent most of their lives in Japan as well as the subset of German Americans (if there were any) who had spent most of their lives in Germany—I think the answer is probably "yes." I suspect that some scholars to my left might disagree with me on that. (I hasten to note, by the way, that some Kibei (even some with long experience in Japan) played crucial roles in the U.S. military during World War II, especially in intelligence.)
2. Malkin continues to insist that only the ultra-secret MAGIC decrypts (as opposed to basic map-reading skills) could possibly have explained the military's decision to choose as their first target the people of Japanese ancestry who lived on Terminal Island (in the LA area) and Bainbridge Island (in the Seattle area). "Even if one assumed for the sake of argument," says Malkin, "that Bainbridge Island was an obvious focal point within the Puget Sound, Muller’s thought experiment still does not explain why military authorities singled out Los Angeles and the Puget Sound rather than, say, Portland or San Francisco. Despite Muller’s effort to suggest otherwise, the MAGIC cables still remain the most plausible explanation." How about the fact that there were huge naval shipyards at Terminal Island and directly adjacent to Bainbridge Island, whereas Portland had no shipyard and the nearest one to San Francisco was thirty miles up the coast?
Similarly, Malkin maintains that the failure to make Eastern Washington State an exclusion zone shows that it was intelligence from MAGIC that caused General DeWitt to make southern Arizona an exclusion zone. What Malkin does not note is that to our north, along the border with Washington, the Canadians were doing exactly the same thing to their citizens of Japanese ancestry and Japanese aliens that we were doing to ours.
3. Malkin asks whether I've read the tens of thousands of messages in the multi-volume compendium of decrypted MAGIC cables. I have not. (Of course, I have also not written a book about how the decision to uproot Japanese Americans was made, as, for example, Greg Robinson has done;
my book is about how the government decided to draft interned Japanese Americans from behind barbed wire in to the army.) I instead thought it safe to rely on her and on David Lowman to select the messages that implied the involvement of American citizens of Japanese ancestry. Assuming that the relevant ones were the ones that Malkin and Lowman reproduce in the appendices to their books, I read those. Is Malkin really suggesting that there are
additional MAGIC cables that bolster her case for "vast networks" of Nisei spies, but that she chose not to mention or reproduce?