Showing posts with label Young people. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Young people. Show all posts

Thursday, August 29, 2019

Young Catholics deserve answers, not scorn

Cross-posted from Rorate Caeli.
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LMS Pilgrims at the site of the Holy House in Walsingham on Sunday.
Recent days have seen one of those waves of attacks on Traditional Catholics on social media. I have responded to one aspect of it, that of simple charity, with a Twitter-thread you can see here. Here I want to look at another aspect of it: the kinds of things the supposedly hateful traddies are talking about.

We all know how anti-trad moral panics work. Some one claims to have experienced ‘bossybitter’, or ‘extreme’ views, not from an established writer, but by some Twitter or Facebook account with 12 followers, if we are allowed to know who it is. Other people then chime in to say, Wow, I’ve had the same experience: not pausing to consider the fact that, unless they live under a stone, they’ll also have had one or two bad experiences with every other category of human being on the planet with more than a handful of members.

It doesn’t seem to occur to those making this criticism that they are doing precisely what they are usually accusing Traditional Catholics of doing: of being rather quick to condemn others. Those of them who are not obscure Twitter accounts with 12 followers ought to know better. But let that pass. The other question is whether we should be having these discussions which the trads are having, and if so, what they should be like.

Sunday, October 14, 2018

Bishop Genn's fear of Traditionalists

Published on LifeSiteNews. The article begins:

Despite the fact that his diocese is desperately short of vocations, Bishop Genn of Münster recently declared: “I can decidedly say I don’t care for pre-conciliar types of clerics, and also I will not consecrate them.”

This is not an uncommon attitude, and it is not limited to Germany. I have heard stories from the English seminary, St. Cuthbert’s College at Ushaw, now closed for lack of custom, that superiors were so concerned to root out conservatively-minded candidates for the priesthood that they would watch how they held their hands during Mass. If they folded them prayerfully, this went on the record as a mark against them. Seminarians would meet to say the Rosary in each others’ rooms, in secret, for fear this subversive activity would get them into trouble, and hide theology books by Joseph Ratzinger.

This attitude seems to go beyond a simple matter of theological disagreement. Signs of conservatism are regarded as akin to signs of leprosy, and indeed, it is not uncommon to hear theological conservatism or traditionalism compared to mental illness. It should be said that this attitude is much less bad, at least in the English-speaking world, than it was a generation ago, but it has not gone away, and it is striking that a German bishop should embrace it so openly.

While I lack any special information about Bishop Genn, I think I can shed light on the phenomenon as a whole. The language commonly used about young conservatives and traditionalists – “rigid,” “conformists,” “authoritarian,” “clericalist” – are related to trends in psychiatry which were influential in the decades after the Second World War. Here is a typical description of the “authoritarian personality” published in 1970 (Peter Kelvin, The Bases of Social Behaviour):

Read it all there.


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Friday, August 31, 2018

Photos from the Walsingham Pilgrimage

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Early on Friday morning last week, about 60 pilgrims set out from Ely to walk about 60 miles to Walsingham. Our intention was the conversion of England, and the means we were employing to bring this about were principally prayer and penance. We didn't go by bus. We walked, because it is more difficult to walk. We wanted to do it the hard way.

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We had the Votive Mass for Pilgrims before we left Ely, in St Ethelreda's Church. It was a Sung Mass with chant: we had with us an excellent chant schola, led by Gwilym Evans, a seminarian of the FSSP.

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The Pilgrims' Blessing (from the Roman Ritual) was given by one of our chaplains, Fr Michael Rowe from Perth, Australia. Our other chaplain was Fr James Mawdsley FSSP.

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018

Young Catholic Adults: Douai Retreat 7-9th Sept

As always I'm delighted to advertise this long-running annual event.

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During the weekend of the 7-9 September 2018, Young Catholic Adults will be running a retreat at Douai Abbey, it will feature Fr. Lawrence Lew O.P., and Canon Poucin - the age range is 18-40.

The weekend will be full-board. YCA will be running the weekend with the Schola Gregoriana of Cambridge who will be holding Gregorian Chant workshops.

There will also be a Marian Procession, Rosaries, Sung Masses, Confession and socials. All Masses will be celebrated in the Extraordinary form.

Please note to guarantee your place this year Douai Abbey have requested that everyone books in 3 weeks before the start of the weekend i.e.17th Aug 2018.

More information: http://youngcatholicadults-latestnews.blogspot.co.uk/

To book:-https://bookwhen.com/youngcatholicadults-douai2018

To donate towards the costs of running the weekend please click here.
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Wednesday, April 11, 2018

Some thoughts on Jordan Peterson

My favourite Anglican theologian, Alastair Roberts, has written in some detail on Jordan Peterson, and in order to get to grips with his thought from a Christian perspective I recommend reading this post of his at least. For the benefit of my own readers--and, as often on this blog, to clarify my own thinking--I want to take a different approach, and say something reasonably brief on why Catholics should welcome, in part, and disagree, in part, with the Peterson phenomenon.

For it is indeed, a phenomenon. Sometimes these things are shortlived but Peterson is, at least by social media standards, an intellectual heavyweight, which I think will give him greater staying power. In any case, he is influencing a lot of people, and I think that over the next decade we will increasingly encounter young people, particularly men, who have been influenced by him. It's really that which motivates me to write. So what is it all about?

Saturday, July 15, 2017

Young Catholic Adults annual RetreatL 20-22 Oct



Young Catholic Adults Weekend 20-22 October 2017

During the weekend of the 20-22 October 2017, Young Catholic Adults will be running a retreat at Douai Abbey, it will feature Fr. Lawrence Lew O.P., and Canon Poucin ICKSP.

The weekend will be full-board. YCA will be running the weekend with the Schola Gregoriana of Cambridge of Cambridge who will be holding Gregorian Chant workshops.

There will also be a Marian Procession, Rosaries, Sung Masses, Confession and socials. All Masses will be celebrated in the Extraordinary form.

Please note to guarantee your place this year Douai Abbey have requested that everyone books in 3 weeks before the start of the weekend i.e.29th Sept 2017.


Prices start from £18.50 per person per night.
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Thursday, June 15, 2017

Juventutem Mass in London Friday 23rd

With the newly ordained Fr Alex Stewart FSSP, in St Mary Moorfields, London EC2M 7LS

7:30pm, Friday 23rd June




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Saturday, May 06, 2017

Rigid Young People and the Traditional Mass

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'Feed my sheep.'
Once again the Pope has criticised 'rigid young people'. The Church is a big place and I'm sure his criticisms apply to some people. The issue of hypocritical rigid Catholics is a big theme in The Devil Hates Latin, and it may well be that Pope Francis has the kind of people in view there in mind, at least among others. The difficulty is how the tone comes over for a lot of the Catholics in the West who are actually going to read some summary of these remarks. It can easily sound as though the Pope is criticising people who take their Faith seriously, or would like to.

I thought I'd repost a section of an old, over-long post from this blog on young people and the Traditional Mass: this is below, and the post is here.

Monday, February 20, 2017

Juventutem Mass in London 24th Feb

7:30pm Friday 24 Feb: Mass will be celebrated by Fr Armand de Malleray FSSP.

Music by Cantus Magnus directed by Matthew Schellhorn:
Messa da Capella a quattro voci Monteverdi
Sicut cervus Palestrina
Sitivit anima mea Palestrina


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Saturday, November 19, 2016

Confirmations in London: photo essay

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John Aron took lovely photographs of the Confirmations which took place last Saturday at St James' Spanish Place. Bishop John Sherrington, an auxiliary bishop of the Archdiocese of Westminster, officiated. There were I think 20 candidates.

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Thursday, October 20, 2016

Juventutem London Mass on Friday 28th Oct

The next Mass and get-together of the London Juventutem group is this Friday. All are welcome to the Mass, in St Mary Moorfields at 7:30pm; the 'social' afterwards is age-restricted (see the poster below).


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Wednesday, January 27, 2016

Monday, April 27, 2015

Mass for the Persecuted: Juventutem London

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On Friday I attended the first of our planned series of Masses for persecuted Christians; it fell on the anniversary of the start of the Armenian genocide.

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It was celebrated by Fr Armand de Malleray FSSP, with the assistance of Fr Patrick Hawyard and Fr Scott Anderson of the Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham, for the London Juventutem group: it was one of their monthly masses, on the last Friday of the month in St Mary Moorfields, Eldon Street, in the City.

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These are my own photos; the full set is here.
A member of the Juventutem group was taking photos which can be seen here, and their blog here.

Wednesday, April 22, 2015

Juventutem London: Mass for Persecuted Christians

Friday 24th April, 7:30pm
St Mary Moorfields Church, London EC2M 7LS (click for a map)

Reposted. This also coincides with the 50th Anniversary of the Latin Mass Society's first public meeting. The following is an extract from an unpublished history of the Society's early years.

[T]he Society’s first Press Officer, Kathleen Hindmarsh, clarified its aims: 

The society will exist to ensure the preservation of the Latin Low, and Sung Mass forms, in accordance with the provisions of the Constitution on Sacred Liturgy, relating to the Latin rite. It is associated in its basic aim—that of preserving the Latin liturgy—with the Una Voce Society of Europe, and the Catholic Traditionalist movement of America, although the peripheral aims of the three societies are not necessarily identical.

The meeting was attended by over 400. Sir Arnold Lunn, who had agreed to act as the Society’s first President, said: ‘We want the Latin Mass, which we regard as the norm. We see the vernacular as an extra…, a melancholy and regrettable concession to human frailty.’ The Tablet reported:

Many of the comments and questions showed an understandable but distressing bitterness and bewilderment: the less rational voiced a fear of schism and even a suspicion that some fifth column was conspiring to destroy the Church from within. As any anthropologist could have predicted, the sudden compulsory abandonment of a sacred collective art-form, an ancient and accepted matrix of devotion, is bound to leave high, dry and desolate both those brought up to it and those who have discovered in it a living and continuing symbol of supernatural, supernational, changeless and eternal faith. An excellent young chairman ruled the storm, advocating charity and gently reiterating that the society was not another Pilgrimage of Grace. 
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High Mass with Polyphony for Persecuted Christians,
on the 100th Anniversary of the Armenian Genocide.


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Tuesday, September 09, 2014

Young people and the Traditional Mass: a response to 'T-C'

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Are there any young people in this picture? LMS Walsingham Pilgrimage

To my remarks about young people finding the Traditional Mass attractive, a commenter going by the name 'T-C' made a comment which I think deserves a wider audience.

Very nice to see.

As a young person myself, I just wanted to add something of my own personal experience.

Among those who are young that attend mass, not everyone has the same perspective. The ones who are willing to talk about the state of the mass in their parish, school, or University are usually the ones who are also traditional minded. They only see an issue in the first place because they have to some degree felt the influence of traditional Catholicism (or have an appreciation for tradition / culture in general).

The sad truth is that this is a very small amount of young people. 

Now there is an equally small minority that is activist like and does want to deliberately party up the mass and to use it like some social event. They have internal agendas just as the masons or other groups did. Although they are small, the undecided majority usually finds their suggestions more attractive than that of the traditional ones. After all, when we are young, there is this naive mindset that "new = what we must have", "change = good" etc.

So in practice, this is why it is so hard for the traditional minded young folks to change things. Most priests are aware that they exist. From my own personal experience, voicing concern does not help. Eventually you become the villain who is portrayed as the pharisees trying to stop the "innovative" ways for bringing in "converts". Most of the fellow neutral peers lap up that portrayal as well because they think we are fussing too much over something like the mass or faith in general. 

At the end of the day, the neutral amount of church goers among the young make up a large chunk. It is easier for a priest to sell them the idea that the mass is a social gathering/banquet than the traditional one which requires some effort to appreciate. It is also easier for them to see the trad youth as pharisaic or troublemakers who make those who follow the attractive trends in campuses feel like they are wrong. 

So the system continues....... 


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If you don't want to see thousands of young people from all over Europe, attracted by the
Traditional Mass, you'd better not look at photos of the Chartres Pilgrimage.
I agree with this, it makes sense, but as a not-so-terribly old person myself, in contact all the time with people younger than me, I'd like to add a few things of my own.

Tuesday, September 10, 2013

The Traditional Mass touches the heart

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Mass in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament exposed,
Corpus Christi 2013 at SS Gregory & Augustine, Oxford 

This story, for the website of the Archdiocese of Miami, has special poignancy for me because the church this lady is talking about it is one in which I regularly attend the Extraordinary Form, and sing at: SS Gregory & Augustine's, Woodstock Road.

Vida Tavakoli knew she had found her home in the Catholic Church when she first attended Latin Mass in England.

Formerly an atheist, her aversion toward religion changed at the end of her college career, when she became a Protestant. During her post-collegiate travels she became resolute in converting to Catholicism after attending a Missa Cantata, or sung Mass, in the parish of her favorite author, J.R.R. Tolkien, a devout Catholic who penned the “Lord of the Rings” series.

Though the homilies, the first reading and a translation of the Gospel are said in the vernacular, the prayers at the Extraordinary Form of the Mass are chanted in Latin, in the Church’s traditional Gregorian form.

When she heard Latin hymns coming from the choir loft, Tavakoli said, it felt like “hearing angels on high.”

She was mesmerized. “It truly is extraordinary,” she said. “There is something beautiful and sacred about this form of the Mass."


For more about the 'angels' who sing at this church see their website: the Schola Abelis. Here's a video of theirs.

Introit Cibavit of Corpus Christi, & Palestrina Kyrie's from his Missa Lauda Sion

Wednesday, August 10, 2011

The Dominican Rite at Evagelium

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The main Masses at the Evangelium conference are in the 'Ordinary Form', but in a reflection of the growing place of the Traditional Mass in the life of the Church many priests over the three days chose to say private Masses in the Extraordinary Form. On Sunday morning, I attended a Mass in neither form of the Roman Rite, but a Mass in the Dominican Rite.
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Preparing the chalice before the Prayers at the Foot of the Altar, one of the most obvious differences between the Dominican Rite and the Roman Rite. The Prayers at the Foot of the Altar are also shorter, and a shorter version of the Confiteor is used.

Local and order-specific rites of Mass suffered different fates after the Second Vatican Council. The Mozarabic Rite and Carthusian Rite were reformed: if you attend them today, the Mozarabic Rite in Toledo Cathedral, the Carthusian Rite in Parkminster Abbey, you will get the Bugninified version, which nevertheless preserves some distinctive features setting them apart from the Roman Rite. The Dominican Rite and the Norbertine Rite were never reformed: in practice the Dominicans and Norbertines stopped using them, at least for public liturgies. Universae Ecclesiae clarifies the application of the Holy Father's Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum to these Rites, saying that members of the orders at issue have the right to use them. This is increasingly happening.
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It is much to be hoped that the Church will in time recover the right kind of liturgical diversity: not the diversity of every priest making things up as he goes along, or of some priests following the rules and others following various fads, but the diversity of a multiplicity of legitimate and venerable traditions. We are Roman Catholics in the sense of being in unity with Rome, not in the sense of all living in the diocese of Rome. It is fitting that the customs used in Rome are recognised everywhere and available to everyone; it is equally fitting that the customs of other places, and of religious orders, are accorded the respect which is their due.
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The full set is here. I've also taken photos of Fr Crean saying the Dominican Rite at Holy Cross Priory in Leicester, where he is based, and during the London Colney Priest Training Conference back in 2009. You can download for free the Ordinary of the Dominican Rite of Mass here (pdf), thanks to the Church Music Association of America.

Tuesday, August 09, 2011

Evangelium 2011

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Exposition on Saturday, which continued until Midnight.

Over the weekend I was at the Evangelium Conference, for the first time. I gave two short talks and was on the 'Apologetics Panel', which was asked to respond to a number of very interesting questions.
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Fr Marcus Holden introducing a speaker.

I didn't take a vast number of photos, since for once I was attending something as a footsoldier rather than an organiser, but I have got a few more here. The conference was both spiritually uplifting and intellectually very stimulating.
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Edmund Adamus gave a fascinating 'plenary' talk on the Family and the Culture of Death.

I was very impressed by the interest of participants in philosophy. My talks had been given titles which made it clear they were going to be pretty abstract - 'How do I know I have a soul?' and 'Showing that God exists from reason' - but although there were four talks going on simultaneously, both of mine were packed. Indeed, the first one, which was in a rather small classroom, people were standing at the back and sitting on the floor.
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The organisers deserve great credit for the conference, which has now taken place four times. I hope it will continue to flourish.

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The LMS stall, which I set up and manned during the breaks, alongside stalls from St Anthony Communications, the CTS, and Steve Ray, the American apologist.

Tomorrow I'll be putting up photographs of a Traditional Mass I attended while there.

Friday, July 22, 2011

Understanding what goes on at Mass, Opera, and Shakespeare

I recently re-tweeted a link to a nice blog post comparing the liturgy to Italian opera, quoting the narrator of the film The Shawshank Redemption, talking about the few minutes the film's hero gets control of a prison PA system to play a Mozart duet.

I have no idea to this day what those two Italian ladies were singing about. Truth is, I don't want to know. Some things are best left unsaid. I'd like to think they were singing about something so beautiful, it can't be expressed in words, and makes your heart ache because of it. I tell you, those voices soared higher and farther than anybody in a gray place dares to dream. It was like some beautiful bird flapped into our drab little cage and made those walls dissolve away, and for the briefest of moments, every last man in Shawshank felt free.

The blogger at 'Shameless Popery' says this tells us how important music is at Mass. Actually, it tells us much more than that. It tells us about the value of non-verbal participation.

'Red', the film narrator, doesn't even want to know what the words meant. The music and the sound of the Italian were expressive in a way that a translation could not be; one might add that offering the listener the meaning of the words at the time would have distracted him from listening. I am a big opera fan, and I'm not against 'surtitles' at the opera on balance, but one must acknowledge their disadvantages: one can easily end up staring at the words instead of looking at the singers, attending to the English and not listening to the song. It is the same with using a hand missal at Mass: Missals are good things, but sometimes one wants to put the thing down and engage with the Mass wordlessly.

Because you can engage with things in many different ways. This point has been driven home to me recently because I've started taking my eldest daughter to Shakespeare plays. She's seven years old, so it seemed the obvious thing to do. Every Summer there are many cheap productions in quirky venues in Oxford. We've been to Twelth Night in Blenheim Pleasure Gardens, Midsummer Night's Dream in Oxford Castle and As You Like it in the Bodleian. She has enjoyed them hugely, but she's clearly not understanding every word.

Now I'm in favour of people understanding what's happening at Mass. We have wonderful catechetical materials for this purpose. I'm in favour of understanding Shakespeare: we have a book explaining the plots and I have the BBC complete Shakespeare on DVD so we can watch them at home first. But having done a reasonable amount of preparation, you need to go along and let the experience reach you where you are.

The fact is, no-one at a Shakespeare play understands every word. No one at Mass understands every word. That is true of a liturgical expert attending a Mass in the vernacular where the translation has used baby-talk to get the message across, as much as a small child at the Traditional Mass. Great works of art and the liturgy are not sponges, to be sucked dry, but wells, from which one may draw water every time one experiences them. To experience them fully, it is necessary at a certain point to stop analysing, take one's nose of the book one is holding, and just let it sink in.
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Children receiving 'first blessings' from Fr Matthew McCarthy FSSP in St William of York, Reading.

Monday, July 18, 2011

Evangelium 2011

It is still possible to book places at the Evangelium Conference taking place at the Oratory School near Reading, 5th – 7th August 2011, for young adults (18-35).

Here is a list of the participants:

Rt Rev. Mark Davies - Bishop of Shrewsbury
Steve Ray - World famous Catholic evangelist and former Baptist
Dr Caroline Farey - Head of the Maryvale Institute Catechetical Team
Fr Jerome Bertram - Oratorian and writer
Sr Roseann Ready - Founder of the Sisters for the Gospel of Life
Dr Andrew Nash - Expert on Bl. John Henry Newman
Dr Joseph Shaw - Philosopher at Oxford University
Fr Ed Tomlinson - Priest of the Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham
Joanna Bogle - Broadcaster, writer, author of Feasts and Seasons
Jaime Bogle - President of the Catholic Union
Fiorella Nash - Catholic novelist
Edmund Adamus - Director of Pastoral Affairs for Westminster Archdiocese
Fr Thomas Crean OP - author of A Catholic Replies to Professor Dawkins
Fr Marcus Holden - Co-founder of St Anthony Communications; co-author of Evangelium
Fr Andrew Pinsent - Oxford University Theology Faculty, former particle physicist at CERN

The Reading Oratory School was founded under the supervision of John Henry, later Cardinal Newman, in 1859, and is today one of the top independent boys' schools in the United Kingdom.

Price: £95 (full board)

Further information

Email: evangeliumproject@gmail.co​m



Yes, I will be there, and on past form so will the Extraordinary Form of the Mass. It promises to be a very interesting event.