Showing posts with label laparocsopy. Show all posts
Showing posts with label laparocsopy. Show all posts

Tuesday, April 7, 2009

Lap recovery and a second second opinion

Recovery continues slowly from the laparoscopy. My RE had said I would feel about 80 percent better by Monday, which unfortunately wasn't the case. I went into work, and during rounds in the psych ER, nearly passed out. I ended up first sitting on a patient's bed (a no-no, but thought I would fall if I didn't) and then crouching near the floor. I had a brief fear of contracting MRSA off of the psych ER hospital linoleum, but I didn't care at that point. I felt clammy, nauseated, lightheaded, had greyed vision, and was cold and sweaty. Chalk it up to hypotension, I think. Was a bit embarrassing to see the house staff spring into action taking my pulse and BP, offering fluid and crackers ("Look she's tremulous! Her pulse is weak and thready! See how pale she is!") Oops. Sorry, eager young physicians, I should have stayed at home one more day.

After crawling through the morning, Will picked me up and we went to see the head of the Other Great Fertility Center in NYC for what felt like our zillionth second opinion, but was actually only our second second opinion (so third?).

We'd seen this RE once in the past, before we even got married, just to get everything checked out. He remembered us and said, "It's been a while! How have you been?" Then he looked at our chart and said, "Oh, yeah. Oh." So things began on a somber note.

He seconded what the Colorado doctor had said a bit, stating "Given how things have gone, we really have to start to wonder about your health history and the impact it has had on you." We asked whether he'd seen others with my particular chemo treatment have this kind of problem, and he said that no, he hadn't, and that the literature didn't support it either, but that it was the most likely explanation for all of the chromosomal problems.

He said it was very unusual but not unheard of to have such a great response to the medications in terms of numbers of eggs and embryo quality (he called my response "textbook" and "beautiful"), but then to have such dismal results.

In fact, he described it as "puzzling." I have other words to describe it, but I'll keep them to myself.

We talked about PGD. At length. He was a big proponent. He does feel that we are in the small sample of people for whom it would offer additional benefit. He said he wasn't sure what he would do in our shoes but he thinks he would do PGD if it were him (we asked, as we know he's been down the IVF road himself in his personal life). He wouldn't say if he felt his clinic is better at PGD than our current clinic. He said they should both be pretty good at it. And he said microarray CGH is unproven. "Could be better than PGD, could be worse." He helped us interpret the data from a number of studies that we'd previously been reading as unsupportive of PGD. He pointed out some flaws in the study design of the articles and analytical methods that we hadn't appreciated before, which made the data in support of PGD appear a little more favorable overall. He also said that if we do PGD on a good number of embryos and all are abnormal, that we only have about a 30% chance of having anything turn up normal the time after that. So that was new information.

He spoke highly of Colorado and he spoke highly of our current clinic. Of course he was positive about himself as well.

Ultimately, he said "Because of your experiences and all of the reading and researching you have done, you know more about this field than most OB/GYNs and more than some reproductive specialists." And then he shook his head. He said that if we had come to him hoping for some answers, that we were out of luck, as he had none for us.

"The best I can tell you is that you are doing all the right things. Think of it this way: whatever path you choose - to stay at your clinic, to come to our clinic, or to go to Colorado - all are great choices. All are the RIGHT choice. I can't tell you if a baby will result from any of these paths, but I can tell you that they are all solid paths with no one substantially better than the others."

So no magic bullet, no identification of something that had been overlooked. I guess this shouldn't be surprising. If there is some peace to be found in this consult, it's in this RE's last statement. That we are facing multiple right choices and have done everything in our power to achieve a good outcome. Whatever happens, we've tried our very best. The rest of it is out of our hands.

This RE shook our hands as we left the consult and offered to speak to us by phone if we have any further questions. I wish I could come up with some questions that he would have the answers to.

Mo


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Friday, April 3, 2009

Laparoscopy/hysteroscopy update

Finally with it enough to post about yesterday's surgery.

First of all, thank you all for writing in with your personal stories and experiences. And Nina, thanks for writing in from the perspective of an OR nurse. My belly button has never been so clean!

The nurse called me in for the surgery a little late, around 12:45. Had me walk into the OR, resign some consents, go over my allergies. Open my mouth for the anesthesiologist ("that's as wide as you can open it?" yup.) Then they hooked up some EKG leads, put a mask on my face and my RE said, " I'll make sure you're ok." That's the last thing I remember.

I woke up in the recovery room to my RE telling me he was surprised to find lots of endometriosis once he got in there. Both on top of and behind my uterus. Ultimately, he classified it as stage 3 endometriosis. He said he cleaned it all out.

There were two stages of recovery. One in a bed and then later on, sitting in a lounge type chair where I was offered something to eat. Mouth was super dry and I was a little nauseated. Lots of urethral pain (presumably from the catheter). But all in all, not so bad.

RE came by again in the second recovery area to go over everything again. Hysteroscopy normal. Moderate endometriosis, which he seemed pretty excited to have discovered. Funny to have all of it because I've never really had anything much in the way of symptoms.

Hoping this will have some positive effect on getting/staying pregnant.

All right, now, back to bed with me. Very, very sleepy.

Mo

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Monday, March 30, 2009

Laparoscopy and hysteroscopy: what should I expect?


So I signed on, full steam ahead, for surgery on Thursday.

Seemed like a good idea at the time, but I'm realizing I'm a little scared of the procedure and wondering what it will be like. It surprises me that I'm so nervous, given that I've been through a number of surgical procedures during my cancer treatment and now during the last 19 months of IVF. But I am.

So, thought I'd reach out to the blogosphere for a little help from my friends. Can any of you who have been through a diagnostic laparoscopy/hysteroscopy walk me through your experience? What was it like? Did your Dr. find anything in the surgery?

Some of my specific wonderings:

What is surgery day like exactly? Who did you talk to? (anesthesiologist? RE? or just nurses?) Were you sedated before going in? How many people are in the OR? Were you awake when catheterized? Did they tie you down while you were still awake? (some crazy fears about being completely out while having gyn surgery surfacing here)

What did you feel like immediately after when you woke up in recovery? Did you have throat pain? Were you still catheterized at that point or did they take the tube out while you were still asleep?

How did you feel one day after? (Can I be alone the next day, letting Will return to work?) How did you feel a few days after? What kind of painkillers were you given? (or was it just tylenol?) I was told I will feel about 80% the Monday following (so four days post-op) and am planning to return to work in the psych ER that day. Does that sound reasonable?

I know the risks are low, but my nerves are getting the better of me. So I am thinking that hearing your experiences will help. Your shared stories will then be out there for the next infertile googling for info on this procedure, helping her to feel a little less afraid.

Mo


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