Showing posts with label homofacism. Show all posts
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Thursday, June 8, 2023

Pat Robertson Passes

Most of what I saw and heard from Pat Robertson was from news and outrage reports, meaning if his actual words were included, they were just snippets out of context. If I recall correctly, I read one book attributed to him and some fundraising pleas, watched one political convention speech, and maybe heard him talking to radio program hosts over the years.

I'm not going to even try to defend everything he said or did. Nobody is perfect, and anyone who appears in as much media as he did, especially if any of it is unscripted, is going to say things that are erroneous or sound strange. Whatever he did wrong is now between him and the Lord.

I will say that Robertson was not wrong advocating that Christians participate in politics. Christians have every right to run for office, vote, speak up, support candidates, causes, and actions, and oppose others, including doing so based on their religious beliefs. 

Also, I have noticed outrage reports about him have often taken what he's said out of context have "interpreted" what he said without quoting him. Assuming he actually said some of the more strange things attributed to him, such as about the rumored actions of some people on the Left or who identify themselves by certain behaviors, Robertson and conservative Christians hardly have a monopoly on that. I don't know if a day goes by that I don't see some bizarre claim from the Left, or antitheists, or abortisexuals about what Republicans/conservatives/Christian are planning to do or are already doing.

It isn't some wacky fringe idea that there is Divine judgment for nations, and that a nation turning against the Lord is going to suffer some judgment as a result. This has been something believed throughout history by many cultures. That doesn't automatically make it right, but it is a Biblically sound idea, and Robertson considered the Bible to be Scripture. Sexual morality and ideals of the sort proclaimed by Robertson also haven't been fringe and certainly aren't unique to a few prominent religious broadcasters. Like it or not, if more people lived by them, there would be a lot less disease, unwanted pregnancies, and broken hearts.

The haters, predictably, are celebrating the passing of Robertson. Every time they react this way to the death of a prominent Christian preacher, Republican, or conservative, those haters are reminding many of us why they should never have power over any of us. The hate, the vitriol, the bloodthirsty behavior should remind everyone why limiting government and being prepared to defend yourself and the innocent are necessary.

Thursday, April 21, 2022

Dear Bob Chapek: You'll Never Be Woke Enough For the Left

Dear CEO of The Walt Disney Company Bob Chapek:

As you'll see over and over again, you can never be woke enough for the Left.

I'm not talking about liberals. I'm talking about Leftists. There is a difference.

Like many business leaders, you are going to be forced to decide: Attempt to appease the Left (which is futile), or endure their vitriol & hissy fits, and focus on everyone else: liberals, centrists, independents, libertarians, conservatives, the politically disinterested.

Keep in mind the Leftists don't want your company to own anything, create value or payments for shareholders, make decisions about who you hire and how much you pay them, or make profits. No matter how much you try to appease them culturally or politically, they do not believe your company should exist independent of being an arm of centralized government.

The recent battle was over Florida's HB 1557, falsely labeled the "Don't Say Gay" bill by professional liars.

What did the legislation actually say?
  • Parents have to be able to access to their child's school records, including health records
  • School district staff can't be prohibited from telling parents about their child's health
  • Third grade or before, no instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity
  • Inform parents at the beginning of the school year what health services are offered and allow the parents to opt their students out of a service
  • Third grade or before, any health questionnaire given to students must be approved of by their parent
That's it. What the problem with that? Who objects to that?

Leftists do. They want to be able to use taxpayer dollars to indoctrinate Kindergartners into the Leftist ideologies on sexual orientation and gender identity. So, they want to be able to encourage Kindergarteners to think of their penis as a problem they'll need to remove, and talk with them about sex. And they want to hide from parents that they are doing this. This is evil. This is insanity.

These students shouldn't be subjected to that. They should be learning how to read, write, speak, and understand English; mathematics; and hopefully some geography, history, science, and art.

On one side, you have people who want to be able so sexualize Kindergartners and promote mutilation to them.

On the other side, you have people who want parents to be able to object to this.

This shouldn't be a hard decision.

Yes, there are some very noisy people in your company, on social media, and in media who screech about how this legislation is bad. Perhaps you should do what you can to keep those in your employ from having access to children when they are on your dime? You should definitely not bend over for them.

It's time to stand up to them and say "No, I'm not going to bend over for you."

It is time to stand up to them and tell them the core of your corporation is about family entertainment and you're not going to push the agenda of people who want to sexualize Kindergarteners. If they stop coming to Disneyworld or Disneyland, if they quit working for you, then your company will be better off in the long run.

UPDATE: People who mock your groveling before them because they don't like the medium of presentation are proving my point. There is no appeasing this mob of unstable, unhappy people who are being agitated by people bent on sexualizing children and putting division between children and their parents.




Wednesday, March 31, 2021

Join the Ranks!

Apparently March 31 is the day activist groups have designated as one of their special campaign days. This time it is Transgender Day of Visibility. This is not to be confused with the Transgender Day of Remembrance, Transgender Day of No Longer Calling Yourself Gay Even Though Ex-Gays Don't Exist, or Transgender Day of Attempting to Gender Conform Even Though Gender is a Social Construct.

Remember when it was "gay and lesbian" people who were at the forefront of activism? Well, with things like marriage neutering now the nationwide Court-imposed thing that it is, the activists switched immediately to pushing "transgender," "genderfluid," "non-binary," "genderqueer", "gender nonconforming" despite how many of them insisted neutering marriage was "the last great civil rights issue."

Monday, April 8, 2019

Disunited Methodists

I'm not a member if a United Methodist Church, but my family does have multiple ties to the UMC denomination. UMCs vary widely from place to place. For example, my wife grew up in a UMC in California, and she doesn't recall ever hearing presentation or explanation of the core Gospel until she was attending a university and went to a Christian event with a classmate. She was a bit embarrassed that she'd grown up in a church and yet has missed the central point of Christianity: a proper relationship with Jesus Christ.

The LGBTQQAICDEFGHJKMNOPRSUVWXYZ activists within the denomination are trying to move the organization away from applying what has traditionally been understood as the Biblical teachings of there being men and women, marriage uniting a man and a woman, and reserving sex for marriage.

Remember when the activists said that marriage neutering wouldn't have any effect on churches?

There was a conference in February that address this. If you want the bottom line, skip down to my comments at the end.

Here's what Katherine Jackson reported for Reuters, as I found at Yahoo News (which really got crappy after the most recent corporate acquisition).
The United Methodist Church voted on Tuesday to uphold and strengthen its ban on same-sex marriage and LGBT clergy in a move likely to alienate large numbers of followers who had pushed for reform.

Ban. Ban is loaded language. We're not talking about secular law here. This is a supposedly Christian organization. There's no more a van on "same-sex marriage" than a ban on squared circles or kosher shrimp.

Also, as we'll see, there is no ban on LGBT clergy.

Tuesday, December 5, 2017

Will He Be Forced to Participate in a Homosexuality Ceremony That Mocks His Faith?

Today, the Supreme Court of the United States heard a case that's exactly what we knew would come about if  marriage neutering advocates were able to get the Imperial Judiciary to do their bidding in fundamentally transforming marriage law, which they did.

"We just want to be left alone."
"Stay out of our bedroom."
"We support tolerance!"
"Nobody will be hurt."

Those were lies.

Politically expedient lies, and now the activists seek exactly the opposite of those lies.

One problem with establishing imaginary "rights" is that error begets error.

An obnoxious pair of maladjusted guys, perhaps motivated by hate, deliberately avoided going to many other cake makers and sought out a well-known devout Christian, who holds longstanding, sincere, mainstream religious convictions clearly protected under the First Amendment, and as a result, will not put his artistic expression to use in support of certain events, some of which have nothing at all to do with LGBTQQUIAPPCDEFGHJKMNORSTVWXYZ people at all.

This man was willing to serve these guys.

He simply wasn't agreeable to provide artistic services for and event they said they wanted, an event that he sees as mocking and violating his religious convictions.

This hasn't stopped they homofascist activist groups from saying that gay people were denied service based on their identity, which is a lie. The guys in question didn't suffer a bit.


Yet, this businessman has had to go through a long, expensive, time-consumer battle to defend his basic rights.

If SCOTUS rules the right way, the activists will liken the ruling to mass murder, and they will try to mess with someone else's livelihood, and they will keep going until they get a favorable ruling, because that's how they operate. If SCOTUS rules the wrong way, the activists will hunt and destroy the livelihoods of any similarly devout Christians that they can.

We knew things would get this way.
5. Parents and employees will lose any "opt-out" leverage they have when it comes to promotions of homosexual behavior or neutered marriage.

6. Religious organizations, congregations, and clergy will be pressured or outright forced to perform, host, and affirm same-sex "weddings", and will be prevented from presenting Scriptural teachings about homosexual behavior or marriage uniting the sexes.
Are we about there?

How about standing up to the activists and telling them they've done more than enough to degrade our lives and destroy good institutiona and programs?

Wednesday, March 2, 2016

Imaginary Rights

[This entry is a little dated now, but the principles behind it endure because the truth doesn't change.]

Leftists love to say something they want is a "right". They think merely stating that something is a right should end debate.

In recent years, we've heard a lot from Leftists and those they've bamboozled that homosexual couples have a "right to marry" and that "marriage equality" is a "right".

Discussions about these matters need to be clear about what is being addressed: Are we talking about the freedom to have a ceremony and share lives? Or are we talking about getting a state-issued "marriage" license?

I personally know homosexual couples who "married" years before any country or state starting calling such pairings "marriage". Were my homosexual friends lying about getting married? That seems to be the implication of marriage neutering advocates, including those in the MSM, who refer to laws including the bride+groom requirement as "bans on gay marriage". However, what neuterists are referring to is not a basic freedom of association, but getting a state-issued license, often in violation of the freedom of association and the right to vote. There is a right for two (or more) people of whatever sex to personally associate with each other as they wish. There is not a right to force the rest of us to license such relationships and call it marriage.

Where do marriage neutering advocates get this notion that state-licensed marriage ia a right? They usually cite Loving v. Virginia, but while that is an effective emotional manipulation, logically the connection doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

The right to marry is not enumerated in the Constitution, but the Constitution exists to tell government what it CAN do, and not to list all of our rights. Oh, but look. Our founding documents and the discussion surrounding their adoption indicate that we have property rights, free enterprise rights, freedom of religion, the right to associate – or not – with whomever we want.  Those seem to me to be in conflict with the "right" to force other people who have voted to keep marriage licensing to instead neuter those licenses so that they are no longer marriage licenses but "any two people of age, not closely related and neither of whom is currently married to other" licenses. The people who wrote and adopted the Constitution and all of the Amendments did so with no thought whatsoever that a brideless or groomless pairing must be licensed by states. Also, it appears that individuals and their private businesses should not be forced to participate in ceremonies they do not support.

It brings me once again to the larger question of rights. What are rights and where do they come from?  Not all freedoms and entitlements are rights. Quite often, laws that some people think give them rights are actually infringing on the rights of others. A "right" to own a slave in America violated the rights of the person enslaved against their will. Our founders maintained that rights come from God (or Nature, for those of you who get queasy at the thought of God), not the government. The government exists to protect our existing rights, and should be limited to as not to infringe on our rights. That was the thinking.  It was the kind of thinking that looked as rights as something that never obligate others without their consent or without a crime being committed.  But these days, it seems like things become "rights" simply because someone wants them to be.

We have the right to free speech because we were born with the ability to communicate. We only have the right to marry in so far as we can find someone willing to be our spouse and something willing to perform the wedding.

Thursday, October 22, 2015

Neutering Marriage is Not Conservative

Don’t be fooled by marriage neutering advocates who say that neutering marriage is a conservative or limited-government position.

Don’t be fooled by Leftists and other Democrats who say the same thing (Duh… do you think they want to help us?) If it was a conservative or limited-government position, why do you think it was originated and touted by extremists on the Left?

Don’t be fooled by self-identified Republicans and conservatives who have been fooled by the people above.

It isn’t conservative to call a brideless or groomless pairing a marriage. It’s an entirely new concept about 15 years old, in direct conflict with thousands of years of universal human history, legal traditions, and religious practices.

Having it be official government policy that the uniting of a bride and groom is no different than a brideless or groomless pairing is not a limited government position. Rather, it imposes government-enforced social engineering on the people and will lead to further family breakdown and more dependence on the government.

Tuesday, April 28, 2015

Oral Arguments at SCOTUS Over State Resistance to Marriage Neutering

Today is the day.

It wasn't all that long ago that the Supreme Court of the United States handled a marriage neutering case and indicated that the federal government, despite having the Defense of Marriage Act, had to defer to what states called marriage licenses. Thus, if a state had issued a "marriage" license to a groomless couple, the federal government had to recognize them as married for tax purposes.

Will the Court now turn around  and say, "Never mind! States must listen to the federal government on this matter since the federal government (federal courts) are requiring states to neuter their licenses."?



In the prior case, the Court did not find that there was a right to get a state marriage license without a bride or without a groom, only that if a state issued licenses in those cases, the federal government had to recognize them.



It would seem to me that if the 14th Amendment or any other part of our Constitution required states to neuter their licenses, SCOTUS should have said so back then. Ah, but maybe these dances in the courts aren't about ensuring that people have their rights, but rather social engineering at a calculated pace?

There are many larger issues involved here beyond the laws of one state or another, including the nature of rights and what makes something a right, the role of the federal judiciary, the role of states in licensing marriage, and public policy as it relates to family.



Even the MSM, or Marriage Neutering Media, is admitting that the Notorious RBG has more or less announced her decision to support neutering marriage ahead of hearing oral arguments. The shrieking and whining and general hysteria would be unbearable if Scalia had indicated his intention to rebuff the marriage neutering activists. RBG and perhaps another pro-neutering member of the Court should recuse themselves, but of course everything has to be sacrificed on the altar of esteeming homosexual behavior, whether it is sound precedent, obvious differences between men and women, protocol, and anything else that keeps the activists from being able to force everyone to celebrate their orgasms.

The best ruling SCOTUS could issue is to indicate that when they said the federal government needs to defer to states, they meant it, and thereby overturn most of the federal court decisions.


The people who say that neutering marriage, especially through federal judicial activism, will have no result other than simply allowing two men or two women to get a marriage license are either lying or severely naive. The naive people fail to grasp how marriage is part of a systematic way things are organized, both legally and socially.

However, there are ways SCOTUS could rule that could have devastating results beyond the specific issue of marriage neutering, including, but certainly not limited to:
  • They could explicitly establish that men and women are interchangeable. Federal law does not currently indicate this. The "Equal Rights Amendment" was never ratified and women are not required, as men are, to register for the draft.
  • They could explicitly establish that people who identify as homosexual are a class in the same what that people born black are a class, needing the same kind of civil rights protections.
  • Establishing a disconnect in law between marriage and parenting, indicating that marriage has nothing to do with raising children.
  • New rights can be created.
  • Opening the door wide to removing other requirements in state marriage licensing, such as those restricting the licenses to two unmarried people and restricting the licenses to people who do not have a close degree of consanguinity or previous affinity.
It is possible they could allow the federal rulings imposing marriage neutering stand without explicitly doing these things as a settled matter, but would they handle it that way? And in the long run, won't any ruling they make advancing the neutering of marriage empower the activists to do those things?

Maybe you're somebody who thinks all of those things would be great. And if you honestly admit that, I can respect where you are coming from even though I strongly disagree. But if you've been lying about it, well, you'd better hope that the tactics and precedents you have been using don't come back to bite you when they are used for something you don't like. And if you have just kind of gone along with what you think would make your friends and family and fictional television characters happy, you're in for a rude awakening if the homofascists gain more power. Hopefully, your awakening will not come too late.

Click on the tags to this post for previous postings about this topics.

Thursday, April 16, 2015

It's Reasonable to Defend Marriage

Bumping this up from May 2013:

Amy Hall at Stand to Reason blogged around the SCOTUS hearing on the marriage cases. She pointed out that "It's Not About Equality":
The term “marriage equality,” if it means “the right to marry whomever you want,” is simply not an accurate term for what same-sex marriage supporters are advocating—not if they favor any restrictions whatsoever (age, number of people, incest, etc.). The truth is that nearly everyone does favor a definition of marriage that has boundaries and thereby denies “marriage equality” to some category of couple (or group).

As you’re likely to hear this term often this week while the Supreme Court is reviewing Prop 8, below is a reposting of “We’re Arguing Definitions, Not Rights” that can help you move your conversations past the charge that you want to deny people equal rights to the real question: What is marriage?

And for a collection of links to more posts and resources discussing this issue, see “Three-Judge Panel Strikes Down Prop 8.”
From "We're Arguing Definitions, Not Rights:
1. Nearly everyone who thinks the government ought to issue marriage licenses favors defining marriage in some way. That is, they favor excluding some combinations of people (polygamy, incest, etc.), not individuals, from the definition. Even judges. Even you!
All laws discriminate between behavior and/or limit the definition of something.
2. You can't consistently argue that by excluding certain combinations of people, traditional marriage violates equal rights—unless you also argue to remove every single boundary from the definition of marriage and say anyone can marry anyone, in whatever combination of numbers they like.
If the argument is consenting adults have the right to get "marriage" licenses with anyone they want to, then yes, all restrictions on adult relationships would have to be dropped to include everyone.
3. If you're not willing to argue this, then you're for having a definition with boundaries, which puts you on equal footing with the traditional marriage supporters.
4. So the question is, which definition should we use? It's fine for you to argue that your definition of "two people who love each other" is better than my definition of "one man, one woman," or someone else's definition of "one man, multiple women," but we need to start off by understanding that we're arguing definitions, not rights.
Precisely. Everyone has the same rights now. Everyone would have the same rights if licensing is neutered.
It's not unconstitutional to adopt either my or your definition, as long as it's applied equally to every individual. Remember that the Constitution doesn't recognize rights for combinations of people; rights only belong to individuals.
That's a very important point.
So one can't say that a man and five women have a right to get married; one can only say that each individual man or woman has the right to enter into marriage (no individual is excluded). This right is then acted upon according to the boundaries set by the state's definition of what marriage is—boundaries which are equally applied to every individual. You would like to equally apply the boundary of "two people who love each other" (excluding some other combinations), and I would like to apply the boundary of "one man, one woman" to each individual equally.
Later, she wrote Now We Wait for the Ruling
Over at First Things, Glenn Stanton comments on some good questions the Justices asked. I tracked down one of the quotes he cited from Justice Sotomayor to get more of the context:
SOTOMAYOR: Mr. Olson, the bottom line that you're being asked—and it is one that I'm interested in the answer: If you say that marriage is a fundamental right, what state restrictions could ever exist? Meaning, what state restrictions with respect to the number of people…the incest laws, the mother and child…I can accept that the state has probably an overbearing interest on protecting a child until they're of age to marry, but what's left?
OLSON: Well, you've said in the cases decided by this court that the polygamy issue, multiple marriages, raises questions about exploitation, abuse, patriarchy, issues with respect to taxes, inheritance, child custody, it is an entirely different thing. And if you—if a state prohibits polygamy, it's prohibiting conduct. If it prohibits gay and lesbian citizens from getting married, it is prohibiting their exercise of a right based upon their status.
The first mistake Olson makes here is that he thinks people are being denied marriage because of their sexual orientation (i.e., “their status”). This has never happened. There is no test whatsoever for sexual orientation when a person applies for a marriage license. There is no class of people being told they’re not eligible for marriage. In fact, the exclusion of same-sex couples (that’s same-sex couples, not homosexual citizens) from marriage isn’t about prohibiting something on the basis of bad conduct or the status of a group, it’s about the definition of marriage.
Marriage was not something developed to make homosexual people sad.
If marriage is a particular thing, then everyone has a right to take part in that institution as it stands, regardless of their personal characteristics. But to be part of the institution, they must be part of the institution. They don’t have a right to change that institution into something different simply because they don’t want to be part of it the way it is.

Imagine a public park builds a tennis court so that people can come to play tennis. Nobody should be denied the right to play tennis games there. Period. It’s a public park, open to all. One day, a group of basketball players comes to the park, wanting to play a game, but they find they can’t play basketball on a tennis court. They immediately go to City Hall to complain: “Everyone has the right to competitive exercise with a ball on that court! We’re being denied our rights based on our status as basketball players!” Can you see the problem? The fact that they don’t want to play tennis doesn’t give them the right to demand that the government build a different court at the park. Their right isn’t to “competitive exercise with a ball” (tennis shares that in common with basketball, but it can’t be reduced to that), their right is to play tennis on that court, just like everybody else.
Or, as I like to say, a chess club has no right to demand status as an NFL team, requiring that the NFL sanction chess-playing. Football is not chess.

Tuesday, March 17, 2015

Homofascists Sure Like to Attack Christians and Abuse Black History

Apparently, Twitter user Lithobolos ‏@Lithobolos didn't think my longtime pen pal could handle disagreeing with me himself, so he decided to jump in with the standard homofascist marriage neutering talking points, and most recently tweeted this out, along with a picture of two men (I think they're men - I guess we're not supposed to assume these days) kissing.
Weird people like @PlayfulWalrus find the best deal of these two getting married offensive. #lgbt #tcot #uniteblue
Notice that it was not written in response form, and along with the hashtags, is an obvious plea for help from fellow fascists.


The discussion was about whether people like bakers, florists, and photographers should be forced (at gunpoint, ultimately) to either participate in an event that mocks there sincerely held convictions, one of the most enduring & widely held convictions in human history - that marriage unites a bride and groom - or be forced out of a business.


Is it really "weird" of me to support liberty over fascism? To support the First Amendment rights of business owners? The arguments I have been making are not about whether I'm personally offended. It is about freedom of association, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and free markets.

Wednesday, October 15, 2014

What Is the Harm of Neutering Marriage?

Why should I care about "protecting marriage?" Who cares if a couple of guys want to marry each other? What’s the harm? How does this hurt my/your marriage? They've had same-sex marriage licensing in [a state our country] for [x] years, and isn’t the place still there? Have things fallen apart? When has a member of the clergy ever been forced to perform a wedding against his or her will?
These are questions that are often asked of those who stand up to defend marriage from being neutered.

However, in most places, it isn't up to us to demonstrate that there will be harm. The burden of convincing falls on the people asking for change. The federal government and all but a handful of states recognize marriage as uniting the sexes, so in those cases, it is those who want to neuter marriage who must demonstrate why doing so would be of overall net benefit to society. While a marriage license may solve practical challenges for a brideless or groomless couple, those issues can be addressed without neutering state marriage licensing.

The universal understanding of marriage has been that it unites a bride and a groom. Only recently, in a few places, has there been deviation from this concept.

With that in mind, let's examine the questions.

Why should I care about "protecting marriage?" 

Sunday, February 23, 2014

Fascist Constitutionphobes and Religiophobes Hope You Won't Read

Have you heard about the legislation recently passed by the Arizona legislature? Have you heard that it is "anti-gay"? Do you know the name of the legislation? Have you even bothered to read it? It's not very long or hard to find. I easily found it here. It is SB 1062.

The way the marriage neutering and homosexuality advocates have been engaging in their dramatic whining and over-the-top theatrics, and the way so many of their repeaters in the MSM have called it "anti-gay", you'd think the legislation authorizes people to hunt down homosexual people where they live and burn down their homes.

Go ahead and search through the text.

You won't find one mention of any of the following words or phrases:

gay
lesbian
homosexual
sexual orientation
same-sex
heterosexual

You won't find euphemisms for those words or phrases, either.

What you will find is that the core language of the legislation is:

"STATE ACTION shall not substantially burden a person's exercise of religion..."

However, there are some very important and sizable exceptions:
"In furtherance of a compelling governmental interest."
"The least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest."
More core language:

"A person whose religious exercise is burdened in violation of this section may assert that violation as a claim or defense in a judicial proceeding..."
Again, there are some very important and sizable exceptions.

What is the big deal?

This seems to me like this is an application basic rights - rights specifically enumerated in the First Amendment.

If we consider this in the context of recent government actions, then this would appear to be a reaction to recent cases involving bakers and photographers who have opted out of participation in events that have offended their consciences and sincerely and strongly held religious convictions that have a long, public, mainstream, and widespread tradition and can be informed by a basic reading of Scripture. These businesspeople have been sued or prosecuted by their own government. These situations have also been misportrayed as the someone "refusing to serve gay people". I recall that one baker in particular had gladly served the homosexual people in question on different occasions. It was only when the baker was asked to participate in a specific event, a same-sex "wedding" ceremony, that the baker declined. Still, some people might insist that such a denial was "anti-gay". However, I can demonstrate that it wasn't. The same baker would have refused if two heterosexual women had asked for the baker to participate in their "wedding".

Notice that the legislation does not mention such professions or events. The legislation could apply to many other things that have nothing to do with what homosexual people do with each other.

So why is it being called "anti-gay"?

I can think of two reasons right now.

1) Leftist homosexuality advocates are malignant narcissists. Everything in the world has to be about their orgasms. They see the entire world through their genitals and anal openings. Other people are to be judged by whether or not they think it is just groovy that one man likes to stick it in another man's anus. They have some bizarre fixation on what other people think about their private bedroom (or public restroom) behavior. Legislation is to be evaluated by whether or not it will encourage one man to stick it in another man's anus, or whether or not it empowers or celebrates such men nor not.

2) Homofascists want to reorganize all of society around their feelings, including the practice of religion, and anything that exempts anyone from being under the control of homofascists is labeled "anti-gay". That would mean they are getting so upset because they fully intend to use the force of government to force everyone, even the deeply religious, to celebrate homosexual behavior.

Whatever happened to "leave us alone"? Now that's not enough. Now they seek you out, quiz you, and if your answers aren't right you're facing a trip to economic Siberia.

Even if you disagree with the legislation, the hysterics from the Leftist homosexuality advocates, and the lockstep following of low information voters should concern you. Really, if signed into law and implemented, how would this law hurt a single homosexual person? Someone might ask a baker for a "wedding" cake with two grooms on top of it. The baker would say "Can't do it." Then the homosexual person could go to another baker. Who got hurt? Judging from the circus-like response to the legislation, there would be plenty of other people willing to participate in the "wedding" by making a cake. Comparisons to Jim Crow do not hold up. Jim Crow included government-enforced blanket segregation based on skin color. This would be a business, not government, deciding they could not participate in an event.

Is such legislation Constitutional? I don't see how it isn't. It is essentially a building upon the First Amendment.

Will it actually be implemented if signed into law? Don't count on it.

As we're seeing repeatedly, the Constitution doesn't matter. The Executive Branch is under the control of Leftist homosexuality advocates who do not believe in letting states handle their own matters or being bound by existing legislation, and they have more and bigger guns than Arizona. Don't kid yourself. That's all it boils down to these days. Even if Arizona refuses to prosecute a baker for being true to their faith, Obama's Department of Justice will.

UPDATE:

A question opponents of Arizona SB1062 don't seem able to answer: What is the objectionable text in the bill?

Tuesday, October 29, 2013

A Stinking Cup of Joe

Fascism thrives on propaganda, and there's no shortage of propagandists for homofascism. Most people who engage in homosexuality are not fascists, but plenty of homosexuality advocates behave like fascists.

Notice that for many years, homosexuality advocates touted the importance of "tolerance". They've largely stopped doing that, because now they they've gained so much power, they don't plan on tolerating anyone who does not publicly cheer private homosexual behaviors. What tolerance really means is allowing for disagreement. You don't tolerate things you like or agree with. You tolerate things you disagree with or don't like instead of trying to force eradication of those things. The way homosexuality advocates used the word was quite different - they used to mean liking, promoting, or celebrating homosexual behavior. They portrayed any disagreement with homosexual behavior or any conviction that homosexual behavior was qualitatively different than heterosexual behavior in any way other than superior as being akin to murdering people.

One popular and acclaimed homosexuality propagandist is this Dog My Joe! character. I want to point out exactly how he operates. Quite often, he'll use unflattering images of his targets along with the twisted text, and use disparaging, childish nicknames as well. He headlined an entry at his blog today as such:
Tony Perkins: Gays Should Not Be On TV
Now, is that really what Tony Perkins said? As you'll see, it is not. Truth doesn't seem to be important to Joe, however.

He ran this quote by Perkins:
"When Gallup asked people to guess how many Americans were homosexual, most said 25%. Turns out, they were about 22% off. And while gays and lesbians make up about 3.4% of the population, they seem to get 100% of the consideration when producers write and cast new television shows. The debate over same-sex 'marriage' has been perfectly scripted by Hollywood. Television shows are full of lovable gay characters, whose dangerous lifestyle is just another funny footnote. Unfortunately for America, those make-believe people are having a real-life impact. It's no accident that almost 20% of Americans credit television with changing their minds on same-sex 'marriage.' It's time for families to let networks know that what they gain by being pro-homosexual doesn't compare with what they'll lose. And that's viewers."
Where did Perkins say that gays should not be on TV? He didn't. Perkin accurately describes the reality of television these days. By the data presented by established, respected mainstreamed homosexuality advocacy organizations, homosexuality is overrepresented on television, and portrayals of homosexual behavior or people who identify as homosexual are overwhelmingly sympathetic, positive, and present Leftism and marriage neutering advocacy as the expected priorities of such people. You'd never know from watching television that there are homosexual people with principled opposition to the neutering of marriage, or at least doing so by judicial activism (Joe, to his credit, does run quotes by homosexual people who oppose marriage neutering). You'd never know that homosexuality correlates to higher rates of domestic violence, substance abuse, STDs (at least with males), or mental illness.

You'd also never know what many homosexual people have noted, that general fascism and homosexuality have had a symbiotic relationship. So none of this is merely a coincidence. Homofascists are part of a movement that pushes to sexualize children as early as possible, and part of the Leftist tendency to make everything political. Note I did not say "homosexuals are pedophiles". Of course, some are, just like some heterosexuals are pedophiles. I'm talking about an activist movement. Homofascists take statements by individuals, often made in response to questions by proxies of homofascists if not homofascists themselves, that extol the ideal of uniting a bride and groom (marriage), or saving sex for marriage, or modesty, or decorum, as unacceptable utterances making that person and their business, employer, enterprise, livelihood the targeted or relentless attacks.

Joe attributes the quote this way:
- Hate group leader Tony Perkins, via email.




"Hate group"? Where has Perkins or his organization ever promoted hated? Ah, but there's a Leftist victicrat group that has labeled them as such. You see how that words? A Leftist group pronounces those who disagree with them as haters. Other Leftists run with name-calling, as if the Leftist group's name-calling makes it true.

Here are the tags Joe attached to this entry (remember, it is his language, not mine):

assholery, bigotry, Christianists, crackpots, FRC, hate groups, religion, television, Tony Perkins
Fascists like to portray opponents as extremists or insane. They also like to portray anyone complaining about their tactics as whiners.


Wednesday, July 24, 2013

HRC on ENDA

The [Homosexualilty Advocacy] Campaign, which calls itself the Human Rights Campaign, which doesn't support rights for polygamous people (so much for equality), as been advertising on behalf of passing "ENDA", which could force employers to let people dress inappropriately on the job along with a bunch of other things.

Here's a statement they have been using:
There’s no state law protecting LGBT workers in 33 states! Sign our petition to Congress to pass ENDA!
That first sentence, of course, is FALSE. There are many laws protecting workers in every state, and LGBT people are not excluded from those laws. Taking their statement at face value, I could note that perhaps 50 (or all 57) states have no state law protecting heterosexual workers! What HRC is trying to do is further erode freedom of association, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, free enterprise, and property rights, by further intruding into the hiring, firing, promotion, demotion, and other decisions of employers.

They want people to get upset that there's no specific law in 33 states that prevents an employer from saying, "I don't want to hire you because you're a man who has sex with men" or "I don't want to hire you because you're a man who is dressed as a woman." However, there's no law against an employer saying :I don't want to hire you because you're heterosexual." That's right. There's also no law againt an employer saying "I don't want to hire you because you're ugly", "I don't want to hire you because you're an introvert", "I don't want to hire you because you like to watch Honey Boo Boo", or a million other things, but the HRC doesn't seem to care about any of that. They have a very narrow focus of wanting to force people who do not approve of homosexual behavior or crossdressing to hire people who do those things anyway, and create whole addition class of potential lawsuits, as in "The reason I didn't get promoted is because I'm bisexexual!" when perhaps the reason was poor performance.

I think employment decisions should be up to a mutual agreement between an employer and a potantial employee (or their chosen representatives), not anyone else.

Of course, the homosexuality and crossdressing advocates will try to liken this to civil rights laws meant to stop discrimination against people based on their skin color or ethnicity, but there's a difference because those things are more readily apparent and are not behaviors. There was also a history in this country of enslaving people, denying them basic human rights, and publicly torturing and lynching people with impunity in well-attended festive events based on their skin color. Finally, a lot of people think it is time to drop the laws about racist discrimination, too, rather than increasing restrictions on employers.

You know what protects LGBT workers? The same thing that protects heterosexual workers: making your employer's job easier in a way it wouldn't be if they didn't have anyone at all for that position or had to go through the trouble of finding someone else. Being a good employee is an employee's protection. If someone doesn't keep or doesn't promote an employee who should be kept or promoted, it is the employer who loses out the most, especially of that employee goes elsewhere.

Friday, July 5, 2013

What We Mean When We Say 'The Homosexual Agenda'

As a limited government conservative, I would never want to use the force of government to stop consensual socializing, physical interaction, cohabitation, religious ceremonies, voluntary associations and business transactions, or free expression. I do think it is the role of various levels of government to cite, fine, and incarcerate one who physically harms someone else or steals or damages the property of someone else against their consent.

Therefore, I would never try to pry two (or three or more) men in bed together apart, to disrupt a "gay wedding" in a church, nor do I think it is excusable to assault someone just because they are gay, or spraypaint vulgarities on their home. I think we should all have the freedom to exercise our rights to life, liberty, and property, regardless of whether we are attracted to men, women, both, or neither.

Yes, I believe that homosexual behavior, like all sexual or sex-like behavior outside of marriage, is sinful (a license from a state does not make a brideless or groomless pairing marriage). I do not believe, however, that our laws should attempt to prevent the commission of all sins.

When someone like me refers to "the homosexual agenda" negatively, we're not talking about seeking to live as you choose in your own home, or protecting yourself from crimes.

What we are talking about are things like:
  • Denigrating traditional gender roles. If the traditional masculine or feminine roles do not work for you as an individual or a couple (understandable, especially with two men or two women), that's fine, but the rest of society can still embrace traditional gender roles, and should be able to without being accused of animus towards homosexual people.

  • Trying to punish thoughts with "hate crime" legislation.

  • Instituting official public school clubs centered around expressing sexuality and the affirmation of homosexual behavior. I'm against public schools in general, but schools full of minors should focus on academics, athletics, and the arts, not to whom you have an attraction. If you really, really need to form a gay-straight "alliance", take Drama. Grades K-12 should not be forming official sex clubs, and make no mistake, it is about sex. Also, in California, the Leftists running the state now require textbooks to include and identify people as "LGBT" and call positive attention to their sexual attraction, behavior, or gender confusion.

  • Trying to get our churches to abandon Scriptural teaching on sexuality and marriage.

  • Telling someone, especially a child, with homosexual thoughts or feelings that they must identify and affirm themselves as homosexuals and engage in homosexual behavior, and that there are no alternatives. This may include trying to prevent anyone from offering assistance to modify behavior away from homosexual sodomy.

  • New or increased government funding for HIV/AIDS research, prevention, treatment, etc., especially at the expense of funding for other diseases not as easily preventable. I’m not convinced it is the federal government's place to spend any money on any disease, except in treating military personnel and federal prisoners.

  • Trying to get us to believe it is okay for someone to dress inappropriately or undergo surgical mutilation and unnecessary hormone treatments in an attempt to appear to be the opposite sex, and that to accommodate such behavior, we should allow men and women (AND BOYS AND GIRLS!) to use the public restrooms of each other. (I don't lump "transgendered" with homosexual, but so many activists do.)

  • Intolerance of anyone who does not affirm homosexual behavior. Labeling as a "hater" or "bigot" anyone who doesn't affirm homosexual behavior, and trying to silence such people or prevent them from publicly expressing their opinions.

  • The notion that someone who engages in homosexual behavior should receive special or extra protection under the law, and shouldn't in any way be criticized.

  • Neutering state marriage licensing, especially through judicial imposition. Preventing adoption agencies from preferring homes with bride+groom couples when placing children.

  • Placing into law, curriculum, medical/counseling policies, church teachings, the media, and workplace training and policies that one must affirm:

    • Homosexual behavior is healthy and morally neutral or positive.

    • Homosexual attraction should be embraced and acted upon.

    • There is no difference between heterosexual coitus and homosexual sodomy, and no qualitative difference between a couple comprised  of both sexes and a couple comprised of one.


Since I believe in property rights, I do believe employers should be able to fire someone based on their sexual orientation. But, I believe employers, absent a contract that says otherwise, should be able to fire (or not hire) anyone for any or no reason, so it isn’t like I think someone should be able to be fired because they are gay. An employer should be able to fire someone because they are the employer.

I do not think there is right to two men to commit sodomy with each other. They have the freedom to, and as long as they are doing it in private I wouldn’t try to stop them. But I’m against having laws or court decisions that there is a right to such behavior in a way that government must, say, license "marriages" between two men.

I recognize that not all people who identify themselves as homosexual support this homosexual agenda. While some homosexual people make it the end-all, be-all of their existence and thus are "homosexuality advocates" or even "homofascists", I know that there are plenty of homosexual people who, like straight me, have higher priorities, such as Constitutionally limited government, national security, and national fiscal sustainability. They don't obsess over trying to get people like me to abandon our belief that homosexual behavior is wrong. And I don't obsess over trying to get them to renounce homosexuality.

Under limited government conservatism, we can use our right to free speech to try to persuade each other, but we should not use the force of government to try to silence each other, or to force "affirmation" from each other.

Friday, June 28, 2013

David Benkof on the Phantom Gay Past

Benkof, who has experience with homosexual behavior, has encouraged sharing this note.

The Phantom Gay Past

The idea that being gay is a naturally occurring orientation in a minority of the human population everywhere has achieved wide acceptance in our society. Many voters and legislators have been approaching the question of redefining marriage to include same-sex couples with that idea in mind.

The problem is, that idea just isn’t true. And the scholars who have provided us with the data showing that being gay is actually a product of Western society originating about 150 years ago are overwhelmingly gay and lesbian (and supporters of “marriage equality”) themselves.

These intrepid social scientists have examined the evidence of homosexuality in other times and cultures (documents, field studies) to see how the gay minority fared in other milieux. But such historians and anthropologists haven’t found much. Sure, there’s substantial evidence of same-sex relationships, love, and sex in pre-modern times, sometimes in very open contexts. But there’s no evidence of a same-sex oriented minority or even individuals with gay or lesbian orientations in any society before the 19th century.

(There isn’t any evidence of straight people either. As far as we can tell, in societies before the 19th century, even happily married people were assumed to be capable of enjoying intercourse with either sex, and only our own society includes people believed to be unidirectionally oriented. The best book on the recentness of straightness is Jonathan Ned Katz’s The Invention of Heterosexuality.)

The experts at homosexuality across the centuries and the continents have thus asserted, overwhelmingly, that being gay is a relatively recent social construction first arising in Western culture about 150 years ago. To my knowledge (and I’ve looked), there isn’t a single scholar with a Ph.D. in anthropology or history of any repute writing and teaching about homosexuality at a major American university who believes gays have existed in any cultures before or outside ours, much less in all cultures. These women and men work closely with an ever-growing body of knowledge that directly contradicts the “born that way” ideology that has been key to the spread of the belief that homosexuality is equivalent to heterosexuality in every way.

It can be lonely to be the one of the few people in gay circles with knowledge about the phantom gay past, while everyone else is certain gays have always existed. Professor John D’Emilio (University of Illinois-Chicago), the first scholar to write a doctoral dissertation on American gay history, lamented in the late 1990s that even while the social-construction idea has swept the academic world,

the essentialist notion that gays constitute a distinct minority of people different in some inherent way has more credibility in American society than ever before…. The core assumptions at the heart of [most recent gay] historical studies are ignored, even as the content of the history - the fascinating lives, the heroic struggles, the fierce oppression - are embraced and absorbed.

Historical perspectives

One thing that becomes clear in looking at the historical scholarship about sexuality is that today’s categories are weak tools for describing the past. A few years ago, I spoke with leading gay historian Martin Duberman, the founder of the Center for Lesbian and Gay Studies in New York City. He put it this way: “Were people always either gay or straight? The answer to that is a decided ‘No.’” Instead, people from other eras who slept with members of their own gender “haven’t viewed that as something exclusive and therefore something that defines them as a different category of human being,” Duberman said.

Many popular attempts to portray an age-old history of homosexuality go back to ancient Greece. We do have a large body of evidence - from the poetry of Sappho to Greek vases that depict two or more men in flagrante - affirming that same-sex love, relationships, and intercourse were common practices in that culture. But did a gay minority exist among the ancient Greeks? The scholars say no.

Rather, the Greeks thought homosexuality was something everyone could and should enjoy, particularly men in the upper classes. In addition to a wife, elite men were expected to take a younger male as an apprentice-lover, with prescribed sexual roles (the younger male was always passive). This system was so different from ours that to describe specific ancient Greeks as gay and others as straight would show profound disrespect for their experiences, and violate the cardinal historical rule against looking at the past only through present-colored lenses.

Another example in which the evidence of same-sex relations has been misinterpreted as a gay minority involves romantic friendships among women in upper-class European and American society in the 18th and early-19th centuries. We have many letters, some explicit, expressing deep love and passion between women, many of whom were also married to men. But the scholars who have examined this body of evidence don’t consider these women lesbians. First, it’s unclear how often the women in romantic friendships had genital relations with each other. But even those who did thought about sex, gender, and intimacy in ways so different from today that scholars have spurned the viewpoint (nearly universal among non-scholars) that two 18th-century women who wrote each other love letters and shared a bed were obviously lesbians.

So when in history did the gay minority first appear, and why? Historians have two major approaches to these questions, and there is plenty of room for further exploration of this important question. The first approach (growing out of the work of French philosopher Michel Foucault and reinforced by the 1970s studies of female sexuality by Carroll Smith-Rosenberg and Lillian Faderman) focuses on the late-19th-century medicalization of homosexuality as a mental illness or psychological condition. Psychiatrists and sexologists in Germany, Britain, and the United States began to pathologize patients who expressed same-sex desires or described same-sex experiences. These labels then led to gay or lesbian identity among those stigmatized, which in turn led those not so labeled to take on heterosexual identities. (An unfortunate byproduct of this process has been the diminishment of open non-sexual affection between heterosexuals of the same sex, to avoid suspicion of homosexuality.)


The other approach, which I find more interesting, explains the rise of the gay minority in terms of economic and demographic trends in Western society. D’Emilio’s landmark 1983 essay, “Capitalism and Gay Identity,” applied a Marxist analysis to the question, arguing that as subsistence became possible outside the nuclear family, young men, especially in cities, were for the first time able to experience same-sex eroticism in ways that could lead to gay identity. Scholars have also looked at the changes in middle-class mores that sanctioned limits on fertility, thus allowing individuals to envision life outside an opposite-sex marriage. And gay history pioneer Jonathan Ned Katz (formerly of Yale) has pointed to the increased “sexualization of commerce and commercialization of sexuality” during the second half of the 19th century, in which entrepreneurs made money from sex-oriented literature, films, bars, baths, and other merchandise and establishments.


While both major approaches place the rise of the gay minority somewhere in the mid- to late 19th century, it’s clear that in many places gay identity didn’t develop until much later. For example, the studies of Newport, Rhode Island, and New York City by outstanding Yale historian George Chauncey include many individuals involved in same-sex activities in the few decades before the Second World War who cannot fairly be called “gay.” Nationwide and certainly worldwide, there are still places where the age of the gay minority would best be counted in years, rather than decades or centuries. In any event, it seems clear that ours is the most sex-obsessed society in history, so perhaps it makes sense that it’s the first in which people form identities around the sex to which they find themselves most attracted.


But even without terminology or cultural identity, one might object, on a basic level some people in earlier centuries desired their own sex and thus were, essentially, gay or lesbian, right? Katz says no. “The existence of the words and our use of them can’t be separated from the feelings and the acts,” he told me in an interview a few years ago. In his opinion, “it’s literally true that homosexual feelings and acts didn’t exist before those concepts.”


Anthropological perspectives


Lesbian and gay anthropologists report much the same lack of a gay minority in their studies of cultures around the world. In fact, anthropologist Esther Newton (SUNY-Purchase) noted in an essay that in her field, “there is really no essentialist position on sexuality, no notion that people are born with sexual orientations. The evidence, fragmentary as it is, all points the other way.” Thus, Newton wrote, “Western lesbian and gay anthropologists, for the most part, have not run around the world looking for other lesbians and gay men.”


Instead, they have found that different cultures have a panoply of different understandings of sex, gender, and desire specific to their own people. For example, the Native Americans known as berdaches or two-spirits have generally taken on feminine dress and social roles, and almost exclusively partnered with non-berdache men. They also often had prescribed religious and military tasks. To call berdaches a “gay minority” stretches the definition of “gay” to a point where anthropologists refuse to go.


Another good example involves many Arab, African, and Latin American cultures, in which sexuality is organized around the femininity or masculinity of the sex object and/or the active or passive sexual role, rather than the biological sex of the individual desired. Such cultures have plenty of same-sex activity, but many of them didn’t have a gay minority until very recently.


Research on sexuality in such cultures rarely reaches the popular press. Columbia University anthropologist Carole S. Vance has pointed out that we see headlines announcing a “gay brain” but no similar reporting of the social science that shows sexual orientation to be uniquely Western.


Vance has a helpful model for thinking about same-sex behavior across cultures. She told me in an interview that she sees being gay or lesbian in American culture as a “package” that includes at least three elements beyond sexual practice: erotic attachment, emotional interest, and cultural membership. But in other cultures, she says, “same-sex sexual behavior can happen without these other elements, or with only some of them.”

Our gay/straight (or gay/straight/bisexual) system can seem logical and obvious to us because we exist within it, but anthropology provides an important corrective to our ethnocentric assumptions. Newton asserted without hesitation that she knows of no non-Western cultural system that divides people into four categories (i.e. men who like women, men who like men, women who like men, and women who like women) as ours does.


The social scientists I spoke with in preparing this essay spoke disparagingly about the natural-science studies purporting to show sexual orientation as “hard-wired.” Newton considers a study showing a link between sexual orientation and blinking rates to be ludicrous: “Any anthropologist who has looked cross-culturally (knows) it’s impossible that that’s true, because sexuality is structured in such different ways in different cultures.” And Duberman told me that in his opinion “there’s no good scientific work that establishes that people are born gay or straight.” While a Ph.D. in history or anthropology does not make a scholar an expert at hard science, these academics’ comments do demonstrate how strongly gay and lesbian social scientists reject of the “born that way” viewpoint.


Nonetheless, the gay community and the wider society increasingly hold the opposite view. In particular, organizations promoting gay equality have promoted “truths” about gay history and culture that have no scholarly basis. For example, pro-gay and coming-out literature tends to make a big deal of the supposed ubiquity and timelessness of the gay minority. Perhaps the most outrageous example is on the Web site of Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (pflag.org). One Q and A in the Frequently Asked Questions section reads as follows:


Is there something wrong with being gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender?

No. There have been people in all cultures and times throughout human history who have identified themselves as gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender (GLBT). Homosexuality is not an illness or a disorder….


The fact that the leading organization coordinating straight support for the gay community, in its basic introductory document, completely misrepresents the known facts about history and anthropology before even addressing what we know about medicine and psychology shows how powerful, and important, social science is in shaping people’s attitudes toward homosexuality.


Can the gap be bridged?


It’s no small problem. The gay community - and to a growing extent the wider society - believes that all societies have included some gays and lesbians, which makes sense because being gay is supposedly something hard-wired to turn up in some fixed percentage of our species. Yet despite serious searching, scholars (most of whom would love to be the first to find a gay minority outside our era) have come up empty. If there’s no evidence of gays and lesbians in other societies, how can being gay or lesbian be something that happens naturally?


There are at least four ways to try to defuse the tension between the community view and the scholarly view, but I’m satisfied by none of them:


The difference is just semantics. It’s really not. Gay and lesbian historians aren’t just claiming that before the 19th century nobody was called “gay” or “lesbian.” They’re saying nobody was gay or lesbian (or straight). While various societies had different ways of thinking about and expressing maleness, femaleness, love, and sexual desire, the most common approach to homosexuality seems to be a belief that it was something one could do, not something one could be.


Gays existed in other cultures but couldn’t come out because of homophobia. But we have loads of evidence of same-sex intercourse and love, which would be unlikely if the problem was homophobia and coming out. We have no convincing evidence that any of the people leaving such records were unresponsive to the opposite sex or considered themselves to be oriented differently from those who expressed passion for opposite-sex individuals.


Other societies had gay minorities, but they left no records. Doubtful. We actually have more evidence that dragons and unicorns existed in earlier history - because they show up in literary and other historical documents - than we do of gays and lesbians. We have records of so many aspects of people’s public and private lives, that it seems clear that if there were long-ago gay people, we’d know about them. For example, there are thousands of 20th-century letters and novels and speeches and diary entries that say some version of, “My parents want me to marry an opposite-sex person, but I don’t want to, because I only like my own sex.” But to my knowledge, there are no such 15th-, 10th-, or 5th-century documents.


By definition, people who want or have same-sex love and sex are gay, and people who don’t are straight, both today and in the past. It’s tempting to look at the past and see versions of our own lives and identities, but responsible history tries to understand the past on its own terms. Asking whether Shakespeare was gay or straight makes about as much sense as asking whether he was a Republican or a Democrat. Of course, none of this means that people don’t have sexual orientations today; it means sexual orientations are a result of our specific culture, and thus not basic human nature. Perhaps a good analogy is to computers: being gay or straight is the software and even the operating system of many people’s lives in today’s highly sexualized culture, but it’s not in anybody’s hardware.


Then what should we make of all the hoopla over various biological studies that point in the other direction? Most of those studies (few of which have been replicated) do little more than suggest that gay men are similar to straight women, and lesbians are similar to straight men in a variety of measurements - from finger lengths to blinking rates. The conclusions are tentative, and no “gay gene” has been found. While biology certainly plays a role in sexual behavior (as it does in every aspect of life), the natural-science data for a biological basis for sexual orientation is all preliminary and mostly disputed. Contrast that to what social scientists have discovered, with very little dissent: century after century and culture after culture with no gay minorities to be found, outside the recent West.


Clearly, all the research taken as a whole suggests that being gay or straight arises out of our specific social context, rather than being etched into our DNA. Of course, given the scant popular awareness about this situation, the idea that gays haven’t always existed can be completely unsettling. Many gays and lesbians have experienced their sexual orientations as unchosen and unchangeable, and therefore they are skeptical - and even hostile - toward anything that implies being gay isn’t part of human nature. And even lots of nongay people and organizations have built outlooks about homosexuality around a belief that the gay minority occurs naturally.


For example, the American Psychological Association (APA) argued in its Supreme Court brief in the landmark 2003 sodomy case of Lawrence v. Texas that “the sexual orientation known as homosexuality - which is based on an enduring pattern of sexual or romantic attraction exclusively or primarily to others of one’s own sex - is a normal variant of human sexual expression.”


Since the specific sexual orientation described is a recent, culturally driven phenomenon, it cannot be a “normal variant of human sexual expression.” Had the APA argued that homosexual orientation “appears to arise involuntarily among some people in our society,” it would have been closer to the mark. There were good, legitimate reasons (such as privacy) to oppose anti-sodomy laws. The supposed natural occurrence of homosexual orientation in the human species, however, was not one of them.


Nonetheless, the Supreme Court seems to have been reading more gay history than the APA, because the majority decision by Justice Anthony Kennedy shows familiarity with social-construction scholarship and to its credit cites both Katz and D’Emilio.


Such awareness is still rare, though, which raises an interesting question: How would the homosexuality debate change if both sides were to jettison the idea of a timeless gay sexuality and to incorporate the social-science perspective into their arguments?


A few possibilities:


The gay community can certainly make a case that non-discrimination policies and laws are justified whether being gay is natural or socially constructed. The fact that people didn’t have sexual orientations a thousand years ago doesn’t necessarily mean that people today shouldn’t have whatever family structures and consensual bodily pleasures they desire. Many left-wing gays already take this sort of stance, rejecting “born that way” as condescending and narrow. And several gay historians and commentators have noted the radical, liberationist implications of the viewpoint that, given the right historical or cultural environment, anyone could enjoy same-sex activity.


Advocates of the traditional nuclear family may, instead, fight for their preferred social construction in the public square. More broadly, religious and other groups who oppose homosexuality on moral grounds might move away from attacking individual gays with “it’s a choice” rhetoric and instead aim at changing the socio-cultural aspects of our society that not only encourage people to build identities around sex, but that also block them from imagining life any other way.


It’s a whole new conversation, one that’s touchy and hard to predict but long overdue.

Tuesday, June 25, 2013

The Heart of the Marriage Neutering Issue

David Whiting of the Orange County Register wrote a piece on neutering marriage and that prompted some letters from readers which the paper was willing to print.

Russ Neal of Huntington Beach:
Legalizing same-sex marriage means that people objecting to this transgression will be compelled to treat it as legitimate.
This is at the heart of the issue. It isn't just that someone who objects to homosexual behavior will be forced to endorse it. We will all, whether we have a moral objection to homosexual behavior or not, be forced to treat brideless and groomless pairings and marriage identically. State marriage licenses are issued on our behalf. The marriage neutering advocates don't want us to even have a word that notes there is a difference. It would be official government policy that there is not. Public schools (and many other schools, if not all) would be prevented from teaching that marriage is different from this pseudomarriage, and homosexuality advocates would be unrestrained in pushing their worldview in the schools as official curriculum. Parents would have no ability to opt their child out. Adoption agencies would not be able to give preference to placing children with a home that is inclusive of both sexes. No government agency, nothing associated with a government program or funding, would be allowed to make a distinction, unless of course it was to somehow provide a targeted advantage to same-sex couples. Soon after, no business, private employer, or private property owner would be allowed to make any distinction.

If California's constitutional amendment (Proposition 8) was allowed to stand, and California's domestic partnership and other laws were kept in place, same-sex couples would retain their treatment as spouses by the state government and everyone else, including businesses, could treat them as spouses. They're free to draw up legal paperwork, have ceremonies, change names, exchange rings, live together, share a life, and call themselves married. But the rest of us would not be forced to ignore the inherent difference between marriage and pseudomarriage.

Friday, June 21, 2013

Shocker: MSM In the Marriage Neutering Tank

In news that should surprise nobody who is paying attention, the "mainstream" media has been shown to be in the tank for neutering marriage. I have previously pointed out that the MSM is lying about the issue.

Taylor Colwell had the Townhall Tipsheet update on this:

The Pew Research Center has released a study examining media coverage of gay marriage during the period leading up to, during, and after Supreme Court hearings on the issue.
In a period marked by Supreme Court deliberations on the subject, the news media coverage provided a strong sense of momentum towards legalizing same-sex marriage, according to a new study by the Pew Research Center. Stories with more statements supporting same-sex marriage outweighed those with more statements opposing it by a margin of roughly 5-to-1. In the coverage studied, the central argument among proponents of same-sex marriage was one of civil rights. Arguments against were more varied, but most often voiced the idea that same-sex marriage would hurt society and the institution of traditional marriage.
Almost half (47%) of the nearly 500 stories studied from March 18 (a week prior to the Supreme Court hearings), through May 12, primarily focused on support for the measure, while 9% largely focused on opposition and 44% had a roughly equal mix of both viewpoints or were neutral. In order for a story to be classified as supporting or opposing same sex marriage, statements expressing that position had to outnumber the opposite view by at least 2-to-1. Stories that did not meet that threshold were defined as neutral or mixed.
This reminds of something Dennis Prager says. Either studies reinforce common sense, or they are flawed. That's a paraphrase.

Of course, when it comes to reporting bias, the perpetual question is whether the media is a molder or reflector of public attitudes. On this matter, though, it seems pretty clear. Reporting bias in the Pew study was 47% in favor to 9% opposed; that study registers present public support as 51% in favor to 42% opposed. Media favoritism for gay marriage far outstrips that of the public at large.

The most common media argument – that this issue is one of civil rights – merits a comparison of the gay marriage movement with that of black civil rights. As I see it, despite superficial similarities, the comparison breaks down once you get to the fundamental nature of the two movements. The black civil rights movement, at its core, was a cause championed primarily on a grassroots level. Massive demonstrations, strikes, and sit-ins precipitated change that eventually spread to journalism and government. Gay marriage, on the other hand, has not seen collective action on this scale. In fact, the push for gay marriage originated at the top and trickled down, whereas black civil rights was more bottom-up.
Of course, comparing someone self-identifying as homosexual and engaging in homosexual behavior NOT being able to get a state-issued license with someone of the same sex to someone who is born with an obvious skin color, the people of which had a legacy of being oppressed through enslavement, segregation, Jim Crow, and publicly supported, well-attended festive lynchings is hardly sensible.

Here's Salon's coverage.
Brent Bozell had a column dealing with this:
In many corners of the liberal media, the space for a social conservative to argue against "marriage equality" is vanishing before our eyes. It becomes twice as difficult the more and more anchors and reporters come out and declare themselves gay, and then the gay lobby expects those journalists to perform with perfect obedience to their agenda.
March in lockstep, or else!
In recent years, the promotion of homosexuality has gone beyond the "news" programs and became heavily entrenched in network entertainment shows, with entire programs devoted to gay characters and their struggle to overcome the alleged ignorance and oppression of religious villains. This easily explains why so many young people are dramatically pro-gay marriage in the opinion polls.
Yup. Homosexual characters are overrepresented on television, and almost always in sympathetic roles.
The official gay censorship lobbies -- from the Orwellian-named "GLAAD" to the National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association -- define "fairness and accuracy" as being stories that try to scrape "fairness" away, treating opposition like used gum on someone's shoe. GLAAD created what they call the "Commentator Accountability Project" designed to discourage reporters and TV bookers from booking "hate" guests. 
Roll over or bend over. Whichever, shut up and obey. That's what has been going on.

There are nonreligious arguments for maintaining the bride+groom requirement in state licensing, ones that are in no way based on dislike of homosexual people or homosexual behavior, and some of these arguments are made by homosexual people. But you've never know it from the pop media.

Monday, June 17, 2013

Neutering Marriage: Where We Are and What It Means

The Supreme Court of the United States of America heard arguments regarding two laws. It is possible that in June, they could issue a ruling that would invent a new federal right to get a state "marriage" license without a bride or without a groom, often called "gay marriage" or "same-sex marriage".

Less than fifteen years ago, no government in the world had neutered licensing to replace marriage. No President of the United States ever indicated a belief that a marriage exists without a bride or without a groom. President Bill Clinton, Democrat, had signed the federal Defense of Marriage Act into law, which had the support of many Democrats in Congress. Not a single great civil rights leader in history had ever called for a "right" to a marriage license without a bride or without a groom – not Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., not Susan B. Anthony, not Gandhi, nobody. None of the people who wrote and voted for the Constitution or the Amendments was ever on record as saying marriage was anything other than the uniting of a bride and groom. Running for President in 2008, Obama claimed to believe that marriage is between a man and woman, and he did not say that there was right to a state marriage license without a bride our groom. (He has partially changed his public position since then.) In Loving v. Virginia, which overturned scattered state bans in "interracial" marriage (which actually prevented freedom of association while Proposition 8 protected freedom of association), SCOTUS did not find that a brideless or groomless union was a marriage. In Lawrence v. Texas, which overturned laws against private homosexual sodomy, SCOTUS did not find that brideless or groomless union is a marriage. There are longstanding federal and state restrictions on marriage, including against polygamy and marriages between first cousins, both of which have a long worldwide history. (Some say that same-sex "marriage" should never be compared to polygamy or incest, and I agree – after all, the latter two have been historically and widely accepted as actual marriages.)

When SCOTUS heard the cases, only nine states and Washington, D.C. had neutered their licensing, something that was largely started by judicial activism with only one of those states doing it through a direct vote of the people that was initiated by the people rather than a judge or state legislature.

Most of the remaining states have constitutional amendments or state laws, many of them directly approved by voters, maintaining the bride+groom requirement in their licensing.

Yet here we are, facing the possibility that nine judges could force the neutering of state marriage licenses on all 50 states, even those where the people have recently voted to reaffirm the bride+groom requirement.

How did we get here?

I didn't follow the case involving the federal DOMA as closely as I did the case involving the California Marriage Amendment, which was adopted by voters through Proposition 8.

There was already a California law, signed by Governor Jerry Brown decades ago during an earlier term as Governor, stating the bride+groom requirement. In 2000, Californian voters directly passed Proposition 22, reaffirming this. California lawmakers passed law(s) creating state domestic partnerships in which same-sex couples (these partnerships were denied – discrimination! - to both-sexes couples unless at least one of them was a seasoned citizen of a certain age) would be treated by state and local governments exactly the same as if they were a married couple. Striking down Prop 8 did not give same-sex couples any additional "rights".

Then the Leftist marriage neutering advocates, including people who were sworn to uphold and enforce the law, decided to thumb their nose at the law by "marrying" brideless and groomless couples and then suing for recognition as marriage. That wound its way through the state courts.

Meanwhile, the voters of California decided to strengthen the bride+groom requirement by placing on the ballot a measure what would make it part of the state constitution. As that was heading for the ballot, the California Supreme Court ordered the neutering of the state's marriage licenses. Later that year (2008), California voters voted for Obama AND they adopted Proposition 8 to restore the bride+groom requirement, placing it in the state constitution.. For many months, long-term (and short term, for that matter) same-sex couples could have obtained "marriage" licenses, and thousands did. Snoozers were losers.

Of course, the California Marriage Amendment was challenged in court by marriage neutering advocates, and so it went to the California Supreme Court, then into the federal courts.

You can read all about this at these links to The Opine Editorials, where we covered it as it was happening:

On the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals on Proposition 8

On the Proposition 8 Trial

On the California Marriage Amendment

On Judge Walker - the federal judge who heard the federal trial over Proposition 8/California Marriage Amendment but did not disclose he stood to immediately and personally benefit from the results.)

(Click on the tags at The Opine Editorials and here on this blog for more on these subjects.)

It is possible SCOTUS may leave this matter up to the individual states, or may order states with "same as marriage" domestic partnerships, like California, to neuter their marriage licensing. There could be some other rulings other than a sweeping one.

If SCOTUS instead invents a "right" for brideless or groomless pairings to get a state marriage license regardless the state law, that will establish these can-of-worm precedents (because remember, we’re not talking about personal freedom, private behavior, and freedom of association, but rather demanding a state-issued license):

1) Minorities that are only distinguishable by their voluntary behavior or unverifiable claims about themselves will be specially-protected classes. Some might ask how this is different from protecting religious groups, but freedom of religion is specifically listed in the Constitution. Those who are in the minority in their sex-like practices will now be specially protected classes. What if someone finds it advantageous in a lawsuit to claim they are gay, even though there is no evidence they are actually homosexual? We certainly can't ask for proof, can we?

2) There will be a right to state-issued licenses and those licenses have to be recognized in all states. That should get very interesting when it comes to restrictions placed on the Second Amendment right to bear arms, or driver's licenses for people who refuse to actually take the driving test due to personal characteristics present since birth.

3) The equal protection principle applies not only to individuals, but to pairings (or groups) not similarly situated. If I had a business partnership, I'd sue for the same protections afforded to marriages (for example, not being compelled to testify against each other in court) and nonprofits.

4) Certain different behaviors must be treated by government as though they were the same. (Yes, a woman socially and sexually uniting with a man is behavior demonstrably different than a woman joining with a woman.)

5) Courts/governments have the authority to forcefully redefine organic institutions established long before the existince of those courts/governments.


Here's a basic argument against neutering marriage that is not religion-based.
1) Men and women are different. Even most of the people who try to deny this demonstrate that they understand this to be true. After all, if men and women were not different, all, or at least three, of the terms in "LGBT" would have no meaning.

2) The pairing of a man and a woman is different than the pairing of two men or two women. It is the only kind of pairing that is able to naturally produce new citizens (who, unlike the adults, do not consent to the relationship), even if not all do. This alone is enough to give the state more interest in the pairing of a man and a woman.

3) Men and women are different in personal relationships. If that difference matters enough to someone in picking a lover, how can it not matter when it comes to the parent-child relationship?

4) State licensing of bride+groom pairings provides children with a role model, guardian, and bonding partner from each of the two sexes that comprise all of society, legally bound to each other as well as the children; generally, this is good for children.

5) It is Constitutional, moral, common, and necessary to treat different kinds of relationships differently. Since all that is needed to enforce this requirement for a STATE-ISSUED license is a pair of STATE-ISSUED birth certificates, it can be done objectively and with impartiality to sexual orientation and without violating anyone's privacy.

6) One need not believe homosexual behavior, relationships, or people to be harmful, sinful, or inferior to accept any or all of #1-5. Indeed, there are people who identify as LBGT who agree with this argument.


Although marriage neutering advocates equate their campaign to civil rights for African-Americans, the comparison is insulting. Homosexual people certainly can't be described as a powerless minority akin to how African-Americans were 50-60 years ago, given how many already serve in elected and appointed positions at all levels of government, how they are treated throughout academia, their overrepresentation and positive portrayals in media, their socioeconomic status, widespread support by business including major corporations, so on and so forth. Unlike African-Americans, homosexual people were not taken from their homeland by force, systematically enslaved and denied status as human beings, systematically segregated by force of law, tortured and lynched by the thousands in festive events attended in broad daylight by entire towns (including children), denied their right to vote, etc.

Even so, heterosexuals would have just as much access to licensing a same-sex union as "marriage" as homosexual people, so how can it be about helping a suspect class?

Marriage neutering advocates are claiming they have unstoppable, growing momentum, and a clear majority of popular support with inevitable victory among voters. How can that be if they are a powerless minority subject to widespread, systematic animus? Which is it? Californians broadly supported homosexual people having the same rights as everyone else and pet legislative causes, but at the same time, voted to affirm the bride+groom requirement.

Clearly, we are talking about treating different voluntary behaviors differently. This is not the same thing as simply being able to look at someone and know they are female, or black, or an Orthodox Jew. We are told over and over again that we can't know whether someone is heterosexual or homosexual just be looking at them.

Many people who support retaining the bride+groom requirement in state marriage licensing have no animus for homosexual people or homosexual behavior. Some of them identify as LGBT themselves.

Other people who one claimed a gay or lesbian identity now live as heterosexual or claim to be heterosexual. I’ve never seen an African-American become a white guy. This is apples and oranges.

If SCOTUS does invent that new right, it will not be the end of what the fascists behind the marriage neutering movement will do. It will just be the beginning. Nobody will be allowed to hold up marriage as a bride+groom institution, such as in educational lesson plans. Other limitations on marriage licensing will be attacked, and marriage may no longer be recognized at all by government. Churches and synagogues who believe that marriage unites a bride and groom will be attacked. We’ve already seen indications of this before. Individuals will not be immune, either.

Will SCOTUS uphold the rights of California's voters? Or will it set dangerous new precedents? Do the people have a government, or are we all property of the government?