Showing posts with label Netherlands. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Netherlands. Show all posts
Monday, August 13, 2012
Too Funny To Be Real; Too Tragic To Be Real: How Gouda Deals with Immigrant Violence
By Barry Rubin
The good burghers of Gouda, Holland—famous for its cheese—have a solution. It seems that there is a problem with some of the immigrants there, especially those from Morocco, being involved in violence. How can these tendencies be channeled in a more productive direction?
Friday, June 17, 2011
Holland: Professional “Moderate Muslim” Turns Out to be Radical, Pro-Terrorist Jihadist
By Barry Rubin
Mohamed Azahaf, a 28-year-old immigrant from Morocco, was hired by the east Amsterdam district to build trust between Muslims and non-Muslims there. But a journalist did some careful research to discover he's a supporter of Usama bin Ladin, said Muslim women who didn’t wear “proper” clothing weren't real Muslims, and even issued death threats against those criticizing Islamic doctrine.
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Mohamed Azahaf, a 28-year-old immigrant from Morocco, was hired by the east Amsterdam district to build trust between Muslims and non-Muslims there. But a journalist did some careful research to discover he's a supporter of Usama bin Ladin, said Muslim women who didn’t wear “proper” clothing weren't real Muslims, and even issued death threats against those criticizing Islamic doctrine.
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Monday, March 7, 2011
Antisemitism Is Now Almost Routine In Many Fashionable European Circles
By Barry Rubin
From the most fashionable circles and down to the street level, from Hollywood stars to British universities to famous fashion designers antisemitism is becoming fashionable around the world. This is being fueled by the constant stream of hate-Israel material, most of it coming from the left including Jewish leftists who simply refuse to understand the effect of their lies on (non-Jewish) people's view of Jews and Israel.
Yet for every incident you hear about there are dozens you don't. Here's one example from the Netherlands.
NRC Next is a highly prestigious newspaper for the Dutch elite, aimed at a youthful, well-educated audience. It focuses on news analysis and opinion. The chief editor, Rob Wijnberg, who is only 29 years old, views himself as a philosophical type of chap.
So what does a clever, hip, intellectual chief editor write for a clever, intellectual, hip, highly educated and deeply cultured audience about President Barack Obama's apparent flip-flops on policy toward Egypt?
You don't read Dutch? Ok here's the translation:
"Barack Obama (not) president of the United States but really spokesman of the Jewish lobby, had already emphasized that he still considers Egypt as one of the most prominent, (not) allies but really oil routes, as well as one of the most important partners in the (not) war on terror but really protection of Israel."
In other words, his refusal to get rid of Egyptian President Husni Mubarak fast enough (hard to believe it could have been faster!) was due to Obama's being a stooge of the Jews, the tool of Israel, and a man concerned only with oil. And that's not from Saudi Arabia or al-Qaida but from Holland, and not from skinheads but from the left-leaning beautiful people set.
Well, this kind of thing was equally disgusting when used against President George W. Bush, but to portray even Obama in this light--and in the Western European circles that supposedly love him is remarkable. Despite Obama's strenuous efforts, anti-Americanism still flourishes and antisemitism seems to grow steadily.
The supposedly enlightened often prove to be the greatest bigots, a factor enhanced by the fact that their counterparts often don't even criticize them for it.
But the same thing--different style--happens on the street level. When spiritual leaders of the three monotheistic faiths went for a walk in Amsterdam, recently, they are confronted by young men who shout "cancer-Jews" and make the Hitler-salute. The item begins at the 12-minute mark after the commercial.
On the other hand, the Dutch parliament supported Israel as a Jewish state and rejected a unilateral Palestinian declaration of independence.
From the most fashionable circles and down to the street level, from Hollywood stars to British universities to famous fashion designers antisemitism is becoming fashionable around the world. This is being fueled by the constant stream of hate-Israel material, most of it coming from the left including Jewish leftists who simply refuse to understand the effect of their lies on (non-Jewish) people's view of Jews and Israel.
Yet for every incident you hear about there are dozens you don't. Here's one example from the Netherlands.
NRC Next is a highly prestigious newspaper for the Dutch elite, aimed at a youthful, well-educated audience. It focuses on news analysis and opinion. The chief editor, Rob Wijnberg, who is only 29 years old, views himself as a philosophical type of chap.
So what does a clever, hip, intellectual chief editor write for a clever, intellectual, hip, highly educated and deeply cultured audience about President Barack Obama's apparent flip-flops on policy toward Egypt?
You don't read Dutch? Ok here's the translation:
"Barack Obama (not) president of the United States but really spokesman of the Jewish lobby, had already emphasized that he still considers Egypt as one of the most prominent, (not) allies but really oil routes, as well as one of the most important partners in the (not) war on terror but really protection of Israel."
In other words, his refusal to get rid of Egyptian President Husni Mubarak fast enough (hard to believe it could have been faster!) was due to Obama's being a stooge of the Jews, the tool of Israel, and a man concerned only with oil. And that's not from Saudi Arabia or al-Qaida but from Holland, and not from skinheads but from the left-leaning beautiful people set.
Well, this kind of thing was equally disgusting when used against President George W. Bush, but to portray even Obama in this light--and in the Western European circles that supposedly love him is remarkable. Despite Obama's strenuous efforts, anti-Americanism still flourishes and antisemitism seems to grow steadily.
The supposedly enlightened often prove to be the greatest bigots, a factor enhanced by the fact that their counterparts often don't even criticize them for it.
But the same thing--different style--happens on the street level. When spiritual leaders of the three monotheistic faiths went for a walk in Amsterdam, recently, they are confronted by young men who shout "cancer-Jews" and make the Hitler-salute. The item begins at the 12-minute mark after the commercial.
On the other hand, the Dutch parliament supported Israel as a Jewish state and rejected a unilateral Palestinian declaration of independence.
Saturday, January 1, 2011
What's Happening in Europe: Holland As A Case Study on Islam and Israel
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By Barry Rubin
One should not generalize in describing European states. Still, the case of the Netherlands shows interesting points regarding attitudes toward both Israel and Islam.
Let's start with the Israel issue. I've been closely following the new Dutch government, formed after an election in which 55 percent of the voters supported explicitly pro-Israel parties.
When the new foreign minister Uri Rosenthal was asked about the country's policy toward Israel by the extremist (and virulently hostile) Green Left party, he replied that he thinks it's necessary to develop further the relationship with Israel because the right to exist of Israel, the only democracy in the region, is still put in doubt by some nations and groups. "The Netherlands want to push back against attempts of delegitimizing Israel. Israel's right to exist must be very clear and Israel should should feel supported in this by the international community."
If the Netherlands wants to support the peace process, even in pushing for Israeli compromises, this can only be done, he explains, if the country engages in more intensive cooperation with Israel.
We should remember that in most countries there is a strong--and party partisan--debate on these issues. Government policy often depends on who wins the elections. The clearest differences exist in Italy, Germany, and the Netherlands; to a real if somewhat lesser extent in France and the United Kingdom, but this point is true everywhere in Europe.
Another development in Europe, however, is rising antisemitism. Here's an article providing examples of both sympathetic and unsympathetic reactions on the issue by various Dutch figures.
Having reliable statistics at last regarding the number of Muslims in Europe also makes it timely to discuss that issue. The European left often argues that Muslims face imminent persecution and even massive repression. One of the more sophisticated versions of this theme comes from the Dutch Labor Party journalist and intellectual Geert Mak in one of the country's leading newspapers:
"No, in the comparison between Jews and Muslims it's not about deportation and mass-murder. It's about the beginning, about the 1930s, when Jews felt themselves excluded and when it was spoken about them as it is now about Muslims."
Yet how can one deal with this issue without noting the fact that Islamists who are Muslim have committed more than 10,000 terrorist attacks in the last two decades? Or the fact that in many mosques in the West, preachers systematically incite hatred for Jews and Christians? Or that a whole series of special privileges are demanded by local Muslim leaders that break the Western democratic tradition of equal treatment under law? Or that the overwhelmingly main cause of growing antisemitism in Europe comes from the Muslim sector of the population?
Needless to say, Jews in the 1930s weren't doing any of these things. There was not a single incident of violence by Jews against the Christian majority. While Jews were sometimes accused of religiously preaching hatred against Christians, those claims were always false. And far from asking for special privileges, most Jews were trying desperately to assimilate culturally while the rest only wanted to be left alone. If one ignores these differences it is impossible to understand the situation today.
Here's one little detail reported by the French press agency, AFP that provides an ironic example of the problem. A Lebanon-born Swedish citizen named Munir Awad was arrested in Somalia in 2007 and again in 2009 in Pakistan on suspicion of involvement in terrorism. The Swedish foreign ministry helped get him freed on both occasions. Awad expressed his gratitude. Now Awad has been again arrested--in Sweden--after participating in a plot to "kill as many people as possible" in an attack on a Danish newspaper that published cartoons he found objectionable.
There is a real problem here and--as the Awad case indicates--neither generosity nor appeasement will make it go away.
But let's go back to what Mak said: "It's about the beginning, about the 1930s, when Jews felt themselves excluded and when it was spoken about them as it is now about Muslims."
In the 1930s though, when "Jews felt themselves excluded" the next step was that Jews were attacked by Nazis, fascists, and extreme nationalists. Isn't there, however, something hidden behind Mak's words? There's the implication that if Muslims feel "excluded" they will attack Christians and Jews. In other words, the situation is exactly the opposite of the Jews in the 1930s case.
From Indonesia through Thailand and India and through the Middle East and Europe and into the Americas, by the end of 2010 there had not been a single large-scale attack, much less any massacre, of people targeted as Muslims by Jews, Christians (with the exceptions of Lebanon, Kosovo, and Bosnia during civil wars in those countries), Hindus, or Buddhists.
Of course, Islamists and many Muslims portrays such things as the U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan or Israeli policies as wars against Muslims. But we know that this is not true. There is no deliberate desire to kill people as a goal; no targeting of Islam itself. Instead of incitement, there is a kneejerk stress in the West and Israel to avoid offense to Muslims at almost any cost.
In contrast, there have been plenty of such incidents the other way around. Indeed, in the last week there were major terrorist attacks against Christian churches in Baghdad and Cairo, with dozens of people murdered.
What is the response? Christian priests and ministers are not giving sermons telling on their flock to hate and kill or even to be rude to Muslims. There are no calls for revenge, no reprisal attacks on Muslims, and no real comprehension in many political, media, and academic circles of what is happening in the world.
Oh, and by the way, the Jews in Europe are also again feeling "excluded" to the point that some are leaving and more are thinking seriously about getting out.
Might these facts have something to do with reality? After all, "Islamophobia" means fear of Islam. This is quite different from hatred of Islam or wanting to kill Muslims. A Greek friend informs me that the word for hate in Greek is "misos." Thus, "Islamophobia" is not the same as "Islamomisos."
In fact, what we are seeing is a rational fear in the West based on events (Islamofovos, to use the Greek word) alongside the hatred of the West (Occidentomisos) in much of the Muslim-majority world.
The real concern in Europe, then, is that making Muslims feel "excluded" (that is, unhappy) is more likely the prelude to them killing you than it is to you killing them.
In literal terms, then, it is the appeasers and Multiculturalists who are "Islamophobic." They fear Islam so much that they are eager to make concessions to avoid being attacked verbally or with violence.
What we are seeing today in the West is a definitional struggle: Is the principal danger to European society "Islamophobia" or radical Islamism? If it is "Islamophobia" then it is possible to rationalize a policy ignoring the roots of terrorist attacks and radical forces in the Muslim community while tending to appease demands for more power, funding, and privileges. Otherwise, it is claimed, Muslims will be tortured, murdered, expelled, and mistreated.
Even a refusal to limit immigration, promote assimilation, deny special privileges, or ban polygamy can be justified as ways to avoid making Muslims feel "excluded."
Indeed, this is largely what's happening in Europe: almost is anything is justified to ensure that Muslims are happy.
Yet if the main threat is revolutionary Islamism and the collapse of national identity, stability, and democracy, then Europe is in a lot of trouble.
There is also a different way to look at the situation: By following these policies European governments are likely to increase not only the threat to their own stability, culture, and society from Islamism but also to increase the likelihood of antagonism toward Muslims. After all, increasing power, demands, extremism, and violence from Islamists is going to echo on the other side far more than would a more moderate strategy in dealing with these immigrants and citizens.
Of course, the radicals, militants, and activists cannot be made happy by being given money, privileges, and flattery since their goal is to control their communities and seize more and more power. By making these people look successful by giving them concessions, Western societies ensure that the Muslims (or, more correctly, the leaders who give the mosque sermons, teach in the schools, and represent the community to the government) will continue to shout out new grievances.
In other words, the Multicultural, Political Correct, criticism-of-Islam-equals-hate-crime approach is the worst possible policy, undermining the host country, radicalizing the Muslim community, and simultaneously stirring up mutual hatreds. There is nothing more likely to create something that might be called "Islamophobia" in the future than kowtowing to fear of this largely non-existent phenomenon in the present.
Barry Rubin is director of the Global Research in International Affairs (GLORIA) Center and editor of the Middle East Review of International Affairs (MERIA) Journal. His latest books are The Israel-Arab Reader (seventh edition), The Long War for Freedom: The Arab Struggle for Democracy in the Middle East (Wiley), and The Truth About Syria (Palgrave-Macmillan). The website of the GLORIA Center is at http://www.gloria-center.org and of his blog, Rubin Reports, http://www.rubinreports.blogspot.com.
We rely on your contributions. Tax-deductible donation via PayPal or credit card: click Donate button, top right corner of this page: http://www.rubinreports.blogspot.com/. By check: "American Friends of IDC.” “For GLORIA Center” on memo line. Mail: American Friends of IDC, 116 East 16th St., 11th Floor, NY, NY 10003.
By Barry Rubin
One should not generalize in describing European states. Still, the case of the Netherlands shows interesting points regarding attitudes toward both Israel and Islam.
Let's start with the Israel issue. I've been closely following the new Dutch government, formed after an election in which 55 percent of the voters supported explicitly pro-Israel parties.
When the new foreign minister Uri Rosenthal was asked about the country's policy toward Israel by the extremist (and virulently hostile) Green Left party, he replied that he thinks it's necessary to develop further the relationship with Israel because the right to exist of Israel, the only democracy in the region, is still put in doubt by some nations and groups. "The Netherlands want to push back against attempts of delegitimizing Israel. Israel's right to exist must be very clear and Israel should should feel supported in this by the international community."
If the Netherlands wants to support the peace process, even in pushing for Israeli compromises, this can only be done, he explains, if the country engages in more intensive cooperation with Israel.
We should remember that in most countries there is a strong--and party partisan--debate on these issues. Government policy often depends on who wins the elections. The clearest differences exist in Italy, Germany, and the Netherlands; to a real if somewhat lesser extent in France and the United Kingdom, but this point is true everywhere in Europe.
Another development in Europe, however, is rising antisemitism. Here's an article providing examples of both sympathetic and unsympathetic reactions on the issue by various Dutch figures.
Having reliable statistics at last regarding the number of Muslims in Europe also makes it timely to discuss that issue. The European left often argues that Muslims face imminent persecution and even massive repression. One of the more sophisticated versions of this theme comes from the Dutch Labor Party journalist and intellectual Geert Mak in one of the country's leading newspapers:
"No, in the comparison between Jews and Muslims it's not about deportation and mass-murder. It's about the beginning, about the 1930s, when Jews felt themselves excluded and when it was spoken about them as it is now about Muslims."
Yet how can one deal with this issue without noting the fact that Islamists who are Muslim have committed more than 10,000 terrorist attacks in the last two decades? Or the fact that in many mosques in the West, preachers systematically incite hatred for Jews and Christians? Or that a whole series of special privileges are demanded by local Muslim leaders that break the Western democratic tradition of equal treatment under law? Or that the overwhelmingly main cause of growing antisemitism in Europe comes from the Muslim sector of the population?
Needless to say, Jews in the 1930s weren't doing any of these things. There was not a single incident of violence by Jews against the Christian majority. While Jews were sometimes accused of religiously preaching hatred against Christians, those claims were always false. And far from asking for special privileges, most Jews were trying desperately to assimilate culturally while the rest only wanted to be left alone. If one ignores these differences it is impossible to understand the situation today.
Here's one little detail reported by the French press agency, AFP that provides an ironic example of the problem. A Lebanon-born Swedish citizen named Munir Awad was arrested in Somalia in 2007 and again in 2009 in Pakistan on suspicion of involvement in terrorism. The Swedish foreign ministry helped get him freed on both occasions. Awad expressed his gratitude. Now Awad has been again arrested--in Sweden--after participating in a plot to "kill as many people as possible" in an attack on a Danish newspaper that published cartoons he found objectionable.
There is a real problem here and--as the Awad case indicates--neither generosity nor appeasement will make it go away.
But let's go back to what Mak said: "It's about the beginning, about the 1930s, when Jews felt themselves excluded and when it was spoken about them as it is now about Muslims."
In the 1930s though, when "Jews felt themselves excluded" the next step was that Jews were attacked by Nazis, fascists, and extreme nationalists. Isn't there, however, something hidden behind Mak's words? There's the implication that if Muslims feel "excluded" they will attack Christians and Jews. In other words, the situation is exactly the opposite of the Jews in the 1930s case.
From Indonesia through Thailand and India and through the Middle East and Europe and into the Americas, by the end of 2010 there had not been a single large-scale attack, much less any massacre, of people targeted as Muslims by Jews, Christians (with the exceptions of Lebanon, Kosovo, and Bosnia during civil wars in those countries), Hindus, or Buddhists.
Of course, Islamists and many Muslims portrays such things as the U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan or Israeli policies as wars against Muslims. But we know that this is not true. There is no deliberate desire to kill people as a goal; no targeting of Islam itself. Instead of incitement, there is a kneejerk stress in the West and Israel to avoid offense to Muslims at almost any cost.
In contrast, there have been plenty of such incidents the other way around. Indeed, in the last week there were major terrorist attacks against Christian churches in Baghdad and Cairo, with dozens of people murdered.
What is the response? Christian priests and ministers are not giving sermons telling on their flock to hate and kill or even to be rude to Muslims. There are no calls for revenge, no reprisal attacks on Muslims, and no real comprehension in many political, media, and academic circles of what is happening in the world.
Oh, and by the way, the Jews in Europe are also again feeling "excluded" to the point that some are leaving and more are thinking seriously about getting out.
Might these facts have something to do with reality? After all, "Islamophobia" means fear of Islam. This is quite different from hatred of Islam or wanting to kill Muslims. A Greek friend informs me that the word for hate in Greek is "misos." Thus, "Islamophobia" is not the same as "Islamomisos."
In fact, what we are seeing is a rational fear in the West based on events (Islamofovos, to use the Greek word) alongside the hatred of the West (Occidentomisos) in much of the Muslim-majority world.
The real concern in Europe, then, is that making Muslims feel "excluded" (that is, unhappy) is more likely the prelude to them killing you than it is to you killing them.
In literal terms, then, it is the appeasers and Multiculturalists who are "Islamophobic." They fear Islam so much that they are eager to make concessions to avoid being attacked verbally or with violence.
What we are seeing today in the West is a definitional struggle: Is the principal danger to European society "Islamophobia" or radical Islamism? If it is "Islamophobia" then it is possible to rationalize a policy ignoring the roots of terrorist attacks and radical forces in the Muslim community while tending to appease demands for more power, funding, and privileges. Otherwise, it is claimed, Muslims will be tortured, murdered, expelled, and mistreated.
Even a refusal to limit immigration, promote assimilation, deny special privileges, or ban polygamy can be justified as ways to avoid making Muslims feel "excluded."
Indeed, this is largely what's happening in Europe: almost is anything is justified to ensure that Muslims are happy.
Yet if the main threat is revolutionary Islamism and the collapse of national identity, stability, and democracy, then Europe is in a lot of trouble.
There is also a different way to look at the situation: By following these policies European governments are likely to increase not only the threat to their own stability, culture, and society from Islamism but also to increase the likelihood of antagonism toward Muslims. After all, increasing power, demands, extremism, and violence from Islamists is going to echo on the other side far more than would a more moderate strategy in dealing with these immigrants and citizens.
Of course, the radicals, militants, and activists cannot be made happy by being given money, privileges, and flattery since their goal is to control their communities and seize more and more power. By making these people look successful by giving them concessions, Western societies ensure that the Muslims (or, more correctly, the leaders who give the mosque sermons, teach in the schools, and represent the community to the government) will continue to shout out new grievances.
In other words, the Multicultural, Political Correct, criticism-of-Islam-equals-hate-crime approach is the worst possible policy, undermining the host country, radicalizing the Muslim community, and simultaneously stirring up mutual hatreds. There is nothing more likely to create something that might be called "Islamophobia" in the future than kowtowing to fear of this largely non-existent phenomenon in the present.
Barry Rubin is director of the Global Research in International Affairs (GLORIA) Center and editor of the Middle East Review of International Affairs (MERIA) Journal. His latest books are The Israel-Arab Reader (seventh edition), The Long War for Freedom: The Arab Struggle for Democracy in the Middle East (Wiley), and The Truth About Syria (Palgrave-Macmillan). The website of the GLORIA Center is at http://www.gloria-center.org and of his blog, Rubin Reports, http://www.rubinreports.blogspot.com.
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