Retard assists Oil tankers in Puget Sound page 21

"Retard Assist" aka "Retard Maneuver", calls for Tugs to slow down large vessels by trying to divert them, rather than STOP.   See link at bottom.

No one is suggesting that Enbridge's oil tankers, carting Alberta's petroleum resources to foreign ports of call, should be denied by a fellow province.... accept by Premier Christy Clark.   No one is suggesting that these huge oil tankers will be making a U-Turn in Douglas and Principe Channels, nor is there a suggestion that they will be running these ships at open Pacific Ocean speed.

Many, actually all of the images that Enbridge has produced for public consumption, show our British Columbian waters as idyllic (extremely happy, peaceful, or picturesque).

Enbridge promises that there will be two tugs assisting the tanker(s) from the Pacific Ocean to Kitimat empty, save for ballast..... and again from Kitimat to the open Pacific Ocean, fully loaded with sand laden with oil.

One tug, as depicted in the cartoon below is to the Port of the slow moving tanker.  The second tug is Astern of the tanker and that tug  is reversing the whole distance from the Pacific to Kitimat and back again.... under idyllic coastal water conditions.  We know the Astern tug is in reverse because the sharp pointy end of a boat, the Bow is going in the opposite direction as the vessel that it's tied to.    The blunt end is called the Stern and it's facing the Stern of the oil tanker.  This method, that Enbridge has displayed in their artist rendering, this Cartoon, below, is a sure-fire way to send many a good seamen to their watery graves.  The steel hulled Tug, NOT DOUBLE HULLED, will reach the bottom of either of the two channels, before you can utter.... Holy-cow.  Plus if there is a rescue attempt made, it will be akin to the demise of the Atlantic Convoy stragglers.  The "other" tug, in this case, couldn't leave their charge, the massive oil tanker, alone in treacherous waters!

Because of their huge mass, tankers have a large inertia, making them very difficult to steer. A loaded supertanker could take as much as 4 to 8 kilometers and 15 minutes to come to a full stop and has a turning diameter of about 2 kilometers.

EVEN the tugs, will have Quieter Engines

The only way in which Oil tankers and the assisting tugs could have Quieter engines is if they were to use Lithium created energy for propulsion like that of Foss Hybrid Tug.


Here in Vancouver, Canada, ships entering our Harbour have two THREE tugs, Two at the Stern of the oil tanker, facing the same direction as the larger vessel's direction.... Third tug at the fore.

Everest Spirit

 And if you missed the headline August 23, 2012, Globe and Mail:

"The ship currently docked at Kitimat looking like a prizefighter with a broken nose is an ugly reminder of the threat posed by proposed pipelines and tanker traffic to the territory of the Gitga'at First Nation," said the statement issued by the band, which is based in Hartley Bay, on Douglas Channel.

Last but not the Least, of importance is this handy-dandy booklet that we found by using this search criteria in Google:    how powerful has a tug got to be to stop an oil tanker

Retard Assist Page 21 of 154
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Something else you should be looking at, is the speed of an Oil Tanker out in open Pacific Ocean:

12 knots = 13.8094 mph = 22.224 km/h

To put this all in perspective, British Columbians have heard about the BC Ferry system which run  out of Horseshoe Bay and over to Departure Bay is 23 knots pushing 10,034 tonnes along.....  those Oil tankers, the ones plying to and fro our coastal waters,  like a Suezmax Tanker,  Loaded, to 125,000 dwt is TWELVE times larger, in weight, than a BC Ferry... built in Germany.

Enbridges says in their "cartoon" up top that "tankers travel slowly but the speed will be reduced".

The speed of the Tanker isn't the problem here, it's the stopping, or Retarding capabilities like this vessel travelling at 12 knots (Pages 57, 58, 59 of 154):  854.3 feet long etc

"Retarding Maneuver",  NOT stopping,  means that this particular vessel, with Rudder problems, will travel 6,000 feet forward, and another 6,000 feet to Starboard.... but on the diagonal..... Hmmmm where did we leave our Grade 8 Math of  Pythagoras Theorem?  

C = 8,485.28 Feet

Ten Proposed Projects for Kitimat 2005 - 2015 as of July 2011

There's only so much real estate to go to, for these companies, to set up shop in "Kitimat", but at least they're keeping the illustrators busy, and the Canadian Coast Guard as well.    The source for these ten proposed projects for the District of Kitimat is here.  This series of 10, is under the title of Investment Summary on Page 37, and it's from the year of 2010. 

The two previous years, 2009 and 2008, show their projections as well....steadily increasing in value as time is wasted by talking.

If, all ten Projects go ahead, will there be enough space between passing vessels at Hartley Bay?   Will the swells from the passing vessels destroy their aqua crops?

UPDATE: November 6, 2013    Annual Report 2012  Page 34 of 63

Financial Statements (Kitimat (B.C.))

Annual Report
2010
2009
2008

1   $2.5Billion  Rio Tinto Alcan Kitimat Modernization Project
A rendering shows what the $3.3 billion dollar Kitimat Modernization Project could look like when completed.

Aluminum, yummy, great location.

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2   $3+ Billion  Kitimat LMLNG Liquefaction and export Terminal at Bish Cove displayed on #4

Apache Canada Ltd., EOG Resources Canada Inc., Encana Corporation
Kitimat LNG is poised to take advantage of Kitimat's many strengths including its strategic location serving the Asia Pacific market. The National Energy Board in Canada has approved KM LNG Operating General Partnership for a license to export liquified natural gase from Kitimat, BC. The company will be allowed to export a total of 200 million tonnes of LNG over 20 years once production at the facility commences.

<-----Sun is setting to the West. Apache/Encana Tank Farm is sitting on shores without any islands running interference.....No Douglas Channel either, looks GREAT!!

 If Northern Gateway #6 below is to the LEFT....how can Apache/Encana be to the RIGHT ????----------------> 

All the tanker traffic, 250 vessels just for Northern Gateway alone, 365 days in a year....

Water doesn't mix with oil.....that's a fact!    

Water and LNG has never been tried!

Therefore, do 320,000 DWT Tankers carrying Enbridge's OIL, mix well with Tankers carrying LNG in close spaces?    Will these tankers only operate in clear weather within our coastline fjords that don't appear to exist in renderings?... with two tugs for each vessel inbound/outbound

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3   $1.285 Billion  Pacific Trail Pipeline.  

Where will the pipeline be constructed?
The project consists of an underground pipeline system between the existing Spectra Energy transmission system near Summit Lake and the propose LNG export facility in Kitimat, British Columbia.  The pipeline will be approximately 463 kilometres long.

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4  Douglas Channel Gas Service Ltd., on behalf of Douglas Channel Energy Partnership, proposes to construct and operate a small-scale natural gas liquefaction facility on the west side of Douglas Channel, south of Moon Bay.   Note: #2 Bish Cove is on the same chart.

Larger Map size here

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5  Channel West Partners Ltd ...construction of a Liquified Natural Gas facility at Emsley Cove as seen on the above image.... bottom left hand corner.

Channel West Partners Ltd. is a private Calgary based company engaged in the development of energy related projects in Western Canada. Our initial focus is to target projects which will monetize the abundant natural gas reserves in the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin.  The management team of Channel West brings a proven track record with expertise in project development, energy trading and marketing, pipeline development, construction and operations, environmental applications and regulatory filings, senior project management of world scale projects financing and financial modelling and First Nation negotiations.

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6    $5.5 Billion Enbridge Northern Gateway marine terminal and pipeline.  And then of course there's "Cheap Charts" to more or less set the records straight.

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7    $25 to 30 Million Sandhill Materials Inc. Marine Terminal  and Aggregate export operation. This company is probably hoping to develop their property before the Oil and Gas guys get the thumbs up,eh.

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8    $1.4  to $2.6 Billion Kinder Morgan Northern Leg Marine Terminal and Pipeline Project. et al.

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9   $150 Million Crab/Europa Hydroelectric Project by Ktamaat Renewable Energy Corp.  A run-of-the-river generating facility in the Gardner Canal area.  It would tie into Rio Tinto Alcan's transmission line at Kildala Arm....... talk to BC Hydro about their involvement of another high priced IPP, eh

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10   Pytrade and the District of Kitimat signed an MOU in January 2010 to install three Pyrolysis bio-fuel generators on a demonstration site in Kitimat.

Land Use Designations in Northern British Columbia and OIL from Enbridge

Maps again, this time its Enbridge's layout of their pipeline without any reference to highways and local roads, no rivers either, nor mountains to tunnel through, and they do, tunnel through two.

Pipeline route

Then there is the Enbridge super-sonic fly-over video from Alberta, to Kitimat, professionally done.


But here we have OUR hand drawn red line edition over top of the "Land Use Designations in Northern British Columbia" version:

1991-05:     Land Use Designations in Northern British Columbia  (updated 2021-02-18)

M.L. Malott, D.V. Lefebure and A. Havard

Open File 1991-05 describes cretaceous and tertiary stratigraphy and industrial minerals in Hat Creek of Southern British Columbia (92I/12, 13, 14). Scale is at 1:800,000.

View Open File 1991-05 (PDF, 615 KB)​

As the Eagle flies

"As the Eagle flies" source Directory.

Watercourse Crossings Page 1 of 3

The proposed Northern Gateway pipeline system route traverses many watercourses, from very small brooks to large rivers. Most of the water crossings are technically straightforward and have minimal environmental impacts. The Project has established a strategic watercourse crossings team to conduct detailed site surveys at difficult crossings to ensure they can be built responsibly and with minimal impacts. The pipelines will cross 773 identified watercourses with defined bed and banks; 669 of the crossings are fish-bearing.  SNIP   Source for more

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Douglas Channel, the to and fro (East and West) means by which the Oil Tankers proceed through British Columbia's Coastal waters is a Recreational area for boaters who are heading North and South, and East and West.

Enbridge is expecting to have 250 Tankers going to and fro between Kitimat and the open waters of our Coastline where none existed before.    As to whether we'll find the Coast Guard setting up a permanent Marine station, anchored, to direct traffic, we'll have to wait till Christy and Stephen sit down for "another talk at the Ice Rink" while the children play hockey.

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 If you are a resident of Vancouver/North Shore, during the Cruise Ship Season, you'll often hear the toot-toot-toot-toot-toot-toot of the Cruise ships between the hours of 5pm and 6pm, as they leave Burrard Inlet.   The rat-a-tat-tooting is the Cruise ships telling the recreational boaters to get the hell out of the shipping channel.   Fortunately the same doesn't hold true for the Incoming fleet of two Cruise ships in the morning because ...... there's rarely a time when recreational boaters, professional too, are out, and about.   The same holds true for photographers and gawkers.  The best place to be standing is at Stanley Park's Prospect Point where its almost as if you can reach out and touch the passing ship(s).

Fact is, at precisely 6:24 in the morning, you might get a photo like this, and more:

The Island Princess

The Island Princess specifications and its Gross Tonnage: 88,000


Enbridge's Oil Tankers out of Kitimat statistics doesn't mention their Gross Tonnage, but there's a reassuring note from them in one report that says that their  "Vessel speed will be reduced in the marine channels to between 8 and 12 knots".

Then there's the consideration when comparisons are mentioned....by the media on....Tonnage Measurements of Ships.

 As to Enbridge Oil Tankers per se,

Snip
The proponent provided a description of the types of oil tankers that could operate to and from the Kitimat marine terminal. The proponent states that up to 250 large oil tankers will call at its Kitimat facility each year.  Snip

Source for the above via Google using this Search Criteria   Enbridge Gross tonnage of Oil tankers
and the link contains a whole raft of other information as well.

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From a January 8, 2012 Post from the BBC:

 Snip ........ Douglas Channel has currents of only a couple knots and is quite straight. The hazardous places for tankers coming into Kitimat are getting from the open ocean to Douglas Channel....Snip   From Steve Cooley who left a Comment

 The original info above came from another one of those PAGE NOT FOUND of the Vancouver Sun's, but its all here at the BBC.


To put things in perspective, as it was done in the Vancouver Sun article that is no longer available,  a 320,000 Gross Tonnage Oil Tanker, the kind that will be going through Douglas Channel, is equivalent to the vessel being stood up on its Bow...... it would stand taller, than Vancouver's Shangri-La Hotel!

If Kitimat LNG tanks, will Texada Island LNG take over?

 In case you missed the UPDATE to the West Coast LNG Project and Proposals, here is the UPDATE (below) and the Original.... here:

As to who owns what on Canadian soil at the proposed Kitimat LNG site

1/15/10 – Apache acquired a controlling 51% stake in Kitimat LNG, with Galveston LNG (SOLD out to EOG Canada) retaining 49%. 1/21/10 – Kitimat signs MOU with ‘major’ Japanese firm after MOU with Mitsubishi expired. EOG Canada acquires 49% from Galveston LNG Inc (May 2010). 10/27/10 – Korea Gas has begun commercial production at the Jackpine field in Canada, in which it holds a 50% stake. March 2011 – Ownership ships so that:
40 %Apache Corp., 30% EOG Resources Canada Inc., 30% Encana Corporation. KM LNG is the operator. 4/27/11 – Haisla Nation and LNG Partners of Houston have joined to propose an LNG export facility just north of Kitimat on Douglas Island in Bish Cove. The project will cost between 360 and 450 million dollars and will move about 125 MMcf/d. The project is scheduled to come online in 2013.

Texada Island LNG

On June 6, 2006 Westpac filed its official Project Description with the Prince Rupert Port Authority, formally beginning the regulatory review and environmental assessment process for the project. 8/1/07 – WestPac LNG Corp. has abandoned plans for a $350-million liquefied natural gas terminal in Prince Rupert, B.C. and has proposed a $2-billion LNG terminal and power plant on Texada Island in the Strait of Georgia. WestPac
LNG plans to file a detailed Project Description with the BC Environmental Assessment Office and the Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency in early 2009. WestPac plans to put off filing its project description until the company has a better sense of new greenhouse gas (GHG) regulations that may come into effect.

It would be kind of "nice" to see something from whomever is running roughshod over the LNG line to Kitimat as to who the Shareholders are, now, and the background on them, and the same for any LNG site on the West Coast of North America.

October 31, 1926.....Boxer May Be Shot to Moon * * * Many Ask for Reservations

 1926

The following.text, all of it, except of course for the Minutes from the City of North Vancouver (CNV), is from the North Vancouver Museum and Archives, where this newspaper is held in safe keeping.

"The Review" - J.M. Bryan Publisher.
    Mr. Bryan decided that it was time for the North Shore to have its own newspaper.

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The (CNV) Clerk reported that formal complaint had been made by Mr. J. M. Bryan of the Review Publishing Co. that they were not getting a fair share of the City’s advertising business.

The Clerk reviewed a former understanding whereby the North Shore Press was to get the publishing of the City by-laws and the Review the publishing of the District by-laws.

Moved by Alderman Anderson, seconded by Alderman White and resolved that both newspapers be asked to furnish a sworn statement of their paid circulation within the City limits together with the cost of advertising space.

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 The Review

Sam McFee, former champion welter-weight boxer of the British navy and now a resident of Victoria, has come forward as a volunteer passenger for the rocket-to-the-moon flight which Herr Professor  Franz Vallier will be invited to stage from Victoria, Vancouver Island.


Mr. McFee, after a life crowded with adventure as a British tar, a prize fighter and survey gang boss in charge of timber cruising parties, looks upon the moon flight as the crowning incident in a life full or color.


He is keenly interested in the giant rocket loaded with sixteen tons of nitrocellulose (aka guncotton) with which it is proposed to send the passenger on his inter-planetary call.


"I have been pretty nearly all over the world," Mr. McPhee (sic) said, "I have met people of every color and every race, I have fought on the sea and in the ring in a few score places.  I have fought Indians.  I have been bitten by land sharks.  I would like to meet these moon men and see what they look like.  Maybe I could start a boxing school up there."


"What is there in it?" was Mr. McFee's parting word.  "I don't  see how the passenger gets back from the moon to the earth.  That seems a little point that is overlooked, so if I make the trip I want a guarantee (an indemnity???) to be left  with the wife before the flight starts."


Following Mr. McFee's offer, Olaf Peterson, the East Sooke inventor of the passenger carrying aerial torpedo, announced that he has received mail applications from persons to make the trial trip across the Pacific.  Two of these applications are from VAncouver, one from Calgary, Winnepeg 2, Brandon 1, Seattle 4, Portland 5, San Francisco 8, Los Angeles 3, Denver 1, Chicago 1, Nelson 3, Port Angeles 3, Toronto 3, New Westminister 10, Edmonton 2, Regina 1.


Mr. Peterson said that he was limiting his trial-trip passenger list to 12, including only local celebrities and a movie news reels man who has applied from Hollywood.

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DRAYCOT LECTURES ON SEYMOUR CREEK

"The Ancient Water Course of Seymour Creek and Geology of the North Shore" were subjects of a lecture delivered by W.M. L. Draycot, Lynn Valley, last Friday in Vancouver, to members of the Burrard Field Naturalists' Club.   Maps, plans, panoramic sketches and photographs executed by the lecturer made the subject intensely interesting as did also the display of various mineral specimens found in the locality.

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SACRED HEART CONCERT TO AID CHRISTMAS FUND

Next Sunday afternoon at 3' o'clock the North Vancouver Choral Society will give a scared concert at the Lonsdale Theatre in aid of the Elks' Christmas Cheer  fund.  An attractive programme has been arranged.  The complete programme will be found in the music column.                                                                                                                       (City of North Vancouver Minutes: From the Elks with respect to Christmas Cheer, making application for an increased grant, owing to the large number of hampers that are being distributed under present arrangement.

  Referred to Estimates.) 

City of North Vancouver Index to Archive Minutes starting June 12, 1907

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England might try prohibition.  That would provide enough extra jobs to take care of the unemployed.

1926