Showing posts with label Farhan Qureshi. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Farhan Qureshi. Show all posts

Wednesday, 2 August 2017

A Video Shining Light Toward Farhan Qureshi and the Hindu Community

A Hindu friend of mine, Farhan, goes into what appears to be Hindu nationalist ethno-centred PSYOPS against Indian Muslims. It comes across as really low brow stuff. This is a video responding to his comments about Muslims. Hopefully this can be a light to Hindu friends to help people see beyond nationalist and ethno-centred arguments that say Islam is an Arab religion and Indian Muslims should not follow Islam because it's not native to India.


This video is also uploaded here and here


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Monday, 31 July 2017

Muslim Reaches Out to Hindu Who Was Using Ethno-PSYOPS and the Genetic Fallacy on Muslims

A Hindu friend of mine, Farhan, goes into what appear to be Hindu nationalist ethno-centred PSYOPS against Indian Muslims. It comes across as really low stuff.

He writes:

"Why do you worship Arabs and their religion? Embrace your ancestry, you are ethnically Hindu"

Muslims don't worship Arabs. Muslims don't worship people. Muslims worship God alone. Just because Islam was revealed in Arabia does not mean it is an Arab religion - Islam is a Revelation for the whole of mankind. It's humanity's religion.

The fallacy he's guilty of here is the genetic fallacy. He's arguing emotionally against Islam due to it not being a religion Revealed in India. Whether deliberate or not, he's seemingly encouraging Muslims to look away from Islam and towards Hinduism simply because of where such a religion comes from. Let's delve into Farhan's barb further with 3 important points.

Point 1

To say Islam is foreign to the Indian subcontinent or to any other region of the world is short-sighted. "Muslim" linguistically means one who submits to God and "Islam" linguistically means submission to God.  Muslims believe Allah (God) sent messengers to all nations and there's a tradition which says Allah sent 124,000 messengers in total (to the whole of humanity) thus "Muslim" messengers would have been sent in various parts of the Americas, Europe and the Indian Subcontinent long before the revelation of the religion of Islam as we know it today with the Quran and Prophet Muhammad.

Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi writes:

Allah has mentioned in the Qur’an that He sent Messengers and guides among all people. Allah Almighty says: “ And verily We have raised in every nation a messenger, (proclaiming): Serve Allah and shun false gods. Then some of them (there were) whom Allah guided, and some of them (there were) upon whom error had just hold. Do but travel in the land and see the nature of the consequence for the deniers!.” (An-Nahl: 36) He Almighty also says, There was not any community except a Warner who lived among them.” (Fatir :24).

In his Musnad, Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal has stated that Allah sent 124, 000 Prophets, and from among them 315 were Messengers.


Those messengers that Allah sent to all nations would have included people indigenous to those nations thus there would have been ethnically Indian messengers. Think about that! This may well have been before the Vedas were written, before the Indus Valley civilization and before the Aryan invasion.

So we expect at least one, although given the size of that region I'd imagine there would have been more than one, ethnically Indian messenger (born and raised in the Indian subcontinent) preaching "Islam" (submission to Allah via pure exclusive monotheism) to people of his ethnicity and geographical location. In fact, if you think about it, many Indians will have an ancestry which will have links to such messenger/s.

To argue against Islam based on emotional genetic fallacies is unfair, myopic and, once we look at the broader picture of the Islamic tradition, it's an argument based on ignorance/myopia.

Point 2

2. Hinduism is not solely a product of India and can we really say all those living there do not have roots beyond India? What role did the Aryans play in the development of Hinduism? There is a standard story in most text books: the theory of the Aryan invasion (although there's a migration theory too). Sometime between 2500-1500 BCE the Aryans (meant something like noblemen or landlords) took over the Indus valley civilisation (around the Indus river) and eventually pushed all the way into India and Aryianised the culture. The Aryans seemed to have their own pantheon, their religious tradition was similar to that of ancient Persia.

How much influence did the Aryans and their descendants have on Hindu scriptures and Hindu philosophies?

For the Hindu nationalist this would be an issue if he's seriously going to use the genetic fallacy against Muslims and Islam.

Point 3

3. The Hindu is communicating in English, a language that is definitely not native to his ancestral region. Is he worshipping English people? Similar comments could be made about the internet, his PC, his phone, his clothes, his accent (obviously not Indian!) etc..

You see how silly the genetic fallacy can get? Surely, folks can see how unfair and inconsistent it is to use the said fallacy on Muslims and Islam.

Asked to think deeper about Islam and Muslims

Farhan's comments on Arabs

Farhan sticks continues with his psychological barbs. He writes:

"Even the Arabs call you Hindi and think you are subservient to their religion and culture"

Well this is negative stereotyping of Arabs, it's almost like he's making them out to be racists and Arab supremacists who look down on other people. Is that fair to tar all Arabs with such an unpleasant theme? No. To say Arabs are all a bunch of bigots would be like saying to Eastern Christians the Europeans consider you subservient to their religion ad culture or to the Indian that Westerners look down on you and think you're subservient to their culture.

It's stereotyping. I bet most Arabs look at Indian Muslims lovingly as their brothers and sisters. In fact, Islam teaches us how irrelevant race is:

In his famous Farewell Pilgrimage sermon, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) declared: "O people! You are all to Adam and Adam was made of dust. No Arab is to be preferred over a non-Arab except by virtue of his piety." In another hadith, he (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Allah does not look at your images or your colors but He looks at your hearts (intentions) and your deeds. Creatures are the dependants of Allah and the closest among them to Allah are indeed the most useful to His dependants."

The PSYOPS against the poor Indian Muslims does not let up, Farhan goes on to write:

"Their [I assume he means Arab] history is not your history"

I think we have kind of touched on this in the section covering the genetic fallacy There we saw Islam is EVERYBODY's history as it is a religion for the whole of humanity. Messengers of Allah were sent to every race and every geographical region preaching devotion and worship to God alone.

This is such a powerful unifying thought. Think about it, God sent prophets of your race to your ancestors. I'm saddened to see some of our Hindu friends unaware of this and thus they are making statements which are not only unfair but lacking depth and meaningful insight.

God has sent a last messenger, Prophet Muhammad, with a global message. If you're a Hindu, do you know about this message? Would you like to learn about it if you have not been told about it? If yes, please see here.

He finishes off by playing a clip of Shk. Hamza Yusuf talking about the mistreatment of Indian labourers (as well as maids).

Of course, this is not by coincidence. It's linked to the other snips of ethno-PSYOPS against Indian Muslims. We must remember, labourers and maids being mistreated is certainly an issue of concern that Muslims around the world should condemn regardless of race but at the same time folks must not use it in propaganda against Arabs and/or Muslims - obviously it is only a tiny fraction of Arabs who are involved and the majority would abhor maltreatment of Indian labourers.

This propaganda by the Hindu would be akin to somebody who is not in Britain stereotyping English people as racists because of a few far right groups getting into the news here. Most English people condemn those groups and are repulsed by their racist sentiment. Likewise, the vast majority of Arab Muslims will condemn such shameful treatment, alongside Shk Hamza Yusuf. It's sad our Hindu friend in his haste misused a good deed by the Muslim scholar; who was correcting the guilty Arab Muslim brethren and warning other Arab Muslim brethren whilst bringing this social ill to the attention of the wider Muslim community in order to alleviate the problem.

The mistreatment of labourers and maids which we see on the news is a departure from Islamic teachings. Islam does not allow such mistreatment, we are taught to be just in the Quran.

O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm for Allah, witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what you do. [Translation of the Meaning of Quran 5:8]


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Wednesday, 26 July 2017

RE: "Farhan Qureshi Continually Changing his Faith"

There's an interfaith discussion featuring Farhan Qureshi and the interviewer said I said Farhan continually changes his religion. I assume he was referencing the following the comment:







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I do stand by this comment, Farhan has changed his approach to religion a few times. That's not necessarily something I'm criticising him for. It's positive in that he may come to Islam. However I do believe the comment is true in that he does change his approach and views to religion regularly. Ahmadi, Salafi, Sufi, Universalist and then full blown Hinduism. Farhan can email me* if he was not following any of these paths - I would not be surprised if there are more approaches to faith Farhan has taken in between especially considering somebody recently said he was a gnostic Christian.  He may say Universalism and Hinduism are the same thought patters, they aren't the same. We can get in to that at another time.







If I get time I will critique some of Farhan's comments and views, perhaps even debate him privately if I feel there will be value in it. He has been promoting Hinduism and exMuslims recently.

NOTE: I don't recommend listening to the Farhan Qureshi interview. It was very repetitive and the there was little refutation and rebuttal material to some of the views Farhan was expressing. Farhan was quite contradictory too.

*Farhan emailed me stating he never gave allegiance to a Sufi pathway. He has also stated he does not recall ever saying he was a gnostic Christian.


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Sunday, 4 May 2014

Farhan Qureshi - Ego or Bad Comprehension

Farhan and I have been discussing the Hindu belief in reincarnation for a while - for the back story follow back from this post.

The weird thing is, despite all the evidence I present him, he still maintains Hindus don't believe in reincarnating into animals.


Despite all these points presented previously showing that Hindus do indeed believe in animal reincarnation, he still claims he's right. How odd? Bad comprehension must be in play here? He won't even say, 'I need to look into this further'. Farhan's adamant he's 'evidential' and 'logical'. He's accusing me of ">Bad hermeneutics my friend, bad hermeneutics'


The weird thing is, he has not provided any real evidence to show otherwise. Can he bring forward a load of Hindu scholars saying all these Hindus are misrepresenting Hinduism in believing animal reincarnation? That all these commentators and translators of Hindu scriptures are wrong? That all these websites about Hinduism are wrong? That Washington State Uni is wrong? That Hindu teachers of Hinduism are wrong?

My advice to Farhan (who happens to be non-Hindu), rather than wasting time with me (I've simply ran with what translations of Hindu scripture, commentaries, Hindus, Hindu websites, teachers and academic websites have said - namely Hindus believe in animal reincarnation), if you truly believe this is not what Hindus believe then why not go to the translators, writers of commentaries, Hindu teachers, Hindu websites and academic sources to TELL them you think they are misrepresenting Hinduism?!

Why not start with Krishna.com which states::

What you remember at death results from the actions, thoughts, and desires of your entire lifetime. According to the Vedic literature there are 8,400,000 species of life, and you, the spirit soul, have to accept the body of a particular species according to the activities and desires of your present life.

Q:But I couldn’t take an animal body!
A:Why not? Reincarnation is not limited to the human species. The difference between an animal and a human being is only the body. There is no difference between a soul in a human body and a soul in a dog’s body.  [Source]

Farhan, please focus on more important matters now. If you really believe all these Hindus are misreading their scriptures that's your choice but this dialogue started with you taking exception to Dr Naik stating Hindus believe they could become animals through reincarnation. My point of the dialogue is to show that Naik was not making stuff up (as you intimated) - Hindus DO believe what Naik stated.  Our discussion is over as it's clear Naik was correct. Whether you think these Hindus are misrepresenting Hinduism is not the discussion here. If you want to discuss or debate that then isn't it better for you to actually go to the Hindu websites, translators (etc) to dialogue with them?

I really don't have much more time to spend on this. I ask you for sincerity, understanding, comprehension, respect and humility.

I invite Farhan to drop his baggage and come to Islam.


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Saturday, 14 May 2011

Reaction to Farhan Qureshi

Note: There is an in-depth video discussion on Farhan Qureshi by Jibreelk here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnuhfIbwSRE

Brief Comments on 'I Declare My Apostasy by Farhan Qureshi '

First and foremost, guidance is from Allah alone. None Guides but He.

I have followed (and liked) Farhan for some time and have had some brief exchanges with him in the past – exchanges which will remain private.

Farhan Qureshi has decided to make public his renunciation of Islam. Moreover, he has decided to work closely with the anti-muslim brigade. I don’t know why. What does he hope it is going to achieve?

Farhan Qureshi is a student of psychology thus should have the necessary elements to sniff out a person’s agenda. Surely, he recognises Faith Freedom’s Ali Sina is simply using him as a tool to further his dubious agenda. Quite what Farhan is doing jumping into that particular bed is open to speculation.

Perhaps the disease rife in apologetics – delusions of one’s import – has reared its ugly head. I just don’t understand why Farhan would go down such a route.

Analysing Farhan’s declaration of apostasy

This was a thought out decision that took months of prayer, consideration, evaluation and knowledge-seeking on my part.

Who was Farhan offering “prayer” to? Really! Was he praying to Allah? How seriously was he seeking advice and answers from scholars?

Not buying it…

My apostasy has not been based on disliking Islam or its requirements rather it was based on a realization that Islam is in direct contradiction with contemporary knowledge involving and including science, philosophy, ethics, anthropology, and the field which I am most interested in, educated in and practice as my line of work, namely, psychology: the science and study of human behavior.

I don’t buy that. Farhan was an ardent defender of Islam for a number of years; surely he has heard all the standard atheist and secularist arguments before? Why have they led to Farhan’s “realization” at this moment in his life? Is it not possible his change in circumstances/influences impacted on the way he saw objections to Islam?

These are potent questions that Farhan should deliberate over and decide for himself whether he has genuinely reasoned the arguments dispassionately or whether he has allowed himself to be swayed subconsciously by such influences/circumstances…

Farhan would do well to scrutinize his own mindset and arrive to answers behind why he began to see familiar objections differently.

Uh?

Moreover, what in the world are these points of “science”, "contemporary knowledge", "philosophy" (how in the world can a religion be in direct contradiction with philosophy?), "ethics", "anthropology" and "psychology" (again, how in the world can a religion be in direct contradiction with psychology?)

Farhan seems to be making vague statements which may sound rather grandiose (to some) but in reality contribute nothing but confusion. Perhaps the FF crowd will lap all of that up but the more discerning will keep their powder dry.

Anti-supernaturalists

I would not be surprised if Farhan’s major influences were anti-super naturalists – introduced to so many Muslims through the work of Bart Ehrman whilst researching the holes in Christianity.

Psychology of others...

I have spent time and energy studying and experiencing the different denominations and sub-cultures within the Ummah. Having experienced their spirituality and religiosity first hand, having studied with their scholars and preachers, and having read books, articles and arguments from them, I believe that I have a grasp of where they stand psychologically and I plan to explore this more in-depth in the near future as I publish articles.

Perhaps Farhan Qureshi would like to explore the psychology of his new crew (FF). I mean, what in the world is their motivation?

How about his own psychology – what’s motivating him? I just don’t understand the decision to jump into the lap of the anti-Muslim brigade. It’s hardly a match made in Heaven – Sina and Farhan!

Isn’t Ali Sina the bloke who was crassly courting publicity by offering a cash reward to anybody who could “refute” him? The mindset of those craving attention is one for Farhan to look into. Another one for Farhan to look into; is Farhan looking for a spot of attention by jumping in bed with this motley crew?

Backward

I realized that 1400 years worth of consistent Islamiyya theology is not what I believed was the ultimate truth, rather I realized that it was a primitive attempt at understanding and implementing social, spiritual, religious and ethical standards. These seventh century standards might give slight insight into how humanity, and in this case, Arab civilization was evolving and progressing from its previous ‘jahiliyya’ or ignorance, and yet effectively became stagnant with its own set of conservative traditionalism that would not allow Arab civilization to move forward.

Farhan is essentially calling Islam “backward”. Secularists often call religion backward. Here, Farhan does it in a less direct fashion. Why has Farhan taken so many years to come to such a view? Was Farhan “primitive” whilst part of the faith? These are matters for Farhan’s psychological skills!

Farhan’s regression

I want to thank Ali Sina for giving me the platform to explore Islam and to expose its primitive nature as incompatible with contemporary reality unless and until Muslims choose to reform it.

Dismissing Farhan’s cruder “backward” jibe as an attempt to gain further approbation from his new bed fellows, the problem Farhan has is that he is using contemporary standards and “development” to judge folk of the past. I mean, if we were all to judge by Farhan’s new yardstick we would come to the view that all human beings of the past are backward. This is an unfair yardstick to employ. Is Farhan really going to claim all his forefathers were backward?

Farhan knows too well Muslims are not going to reform Islam to bend towards contemporary society. He must be confusing Christians for Muslims.

Good guys leave Islam? Say hello to the loons...

The infamous myth-maker, David Wood, wrote the general consensus of those of us who knew Farhan was this: "It's only a matter of time before Farhan leaves Islam. He's too good a guy to keep defending these teachings."

Uh? So all Muslims are bad and the good ones will leave Islam? Talk about loco!

Farhan, say hello to your new bed fellows. Rest assured, crazed views such as these are ubiquitous amongst your new crew.

Further reading for Farhan and others

A Muslim philosopher challenging secularism – Shabbir Akhtar

Farhan, I have not read this book but have seen it promoted on Paul Williams’ blog. Perhaps it will benefit you. Please do read it as it seems as though it may have some of the answers you crave – inshaAllah. Here’s what Williams wrote:

I’m currently reading this excellent and intellectually intoxicating book. Akhtar, a Muslim philosopher, is concerned with the rationality and plausibility of the Muslim faith and the Qur’an, and in particular how they can be interrogated and understood through Western analytical philosophy. He also explores how Islam can successfully engage with the challenges posed by secular thinking.
Invitation to Islam

Farhan, take some time out and think about WHY you really left Islam and WHAT really influenced you. Yep, retrospectively delve into your mindset.

When I pray I feel an out-of-this-world feeling of spirituality. Muslims have experienced the spirituality of Islam. Farhan, did you not feel anything when you prayed? I guarantee you are the one who is losing out.

Farhan, rethink your decision and come back to Islam.

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